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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:04 am 
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Hey guys, havent been on here in a while. PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO SKIM OVER THIS, I KNOW ITS LONG BUT I NEED YOUR HELP.
Here's the story: I sent a girl from my highschool a love letter when I was drunk on facebook. (yeah I know, I'm a total AFC for doing that)
She messaged back and said "I like this"
and eventually asked me to teach her how to play guitar sometime. ( cause she knows I play guitar)
Then everyone once in a while we would chat on facebook.
but at school I never talked to her, cause I felt too fucking nervous
This is girl is a year older than me and she's the hottest girl in my school. Not only in my opinion... its what every guy in my school thinks.
Once she stayed up talking to me till 3 am (on facebook) and she said she was supposed to be writing a 15 page essay but got distracted because of something I said.
After 2 weeks, when school was finally over I went with 2girls and 2 of my buddies to a bonfire hangout just to chill. She was there too. However, I was too nervous to come up and say anything to her. Nevertheless I managed to hit on like 4 other girls there. And I had noticed that she saw me hugging one of the girls I was hitting on there.
So during the next day I felt compelled to call her. (I had her number because I texted her previously about teaching her guitar) I called 4 times and she never answered.
That night, I went to another bonfire. As I was walking there I was drunk. When I was getting close to the place a crowd was walking back. Everyone was leaving. It was too dark to see anything. So as I was passing a small group of 5, some girl said "Val? Is that you?" I didn’t stop and kept of walking down and replied "Yeah, thats me". She said "Val come here!". I replied "Why?" as I kept on getting further from her. She scram "Val, come up here now!" I replied "I can't" (I was drunk haha). Then I walked towards the bonfire, still was pretty far away, following a trail. Then someone called me on my phone and said "the cops are here". Although I was drunk I still new that it was best to head back. So I started running back. As I came back up I noticed a group of 5. And the HB I liked was there. She noticed me and said: Val! I was calling you, why didnt you come back?" I said "sorry haha I was looking for a friend" She said “haha, alright, why did you call me so many times?” as she hugged me. I replied “haha I don’t remember”. Then a buddy of mine called me cause he was gonna give me a ride home. So I said bye and left.
The day after that another bonfire happened. She was there as well. But this time I was a little drunk and I tried weed for the first time. I ended up making out with some other girl there. I told a drunken friend that I made out with some chick, and he told everyone at the party. She eventually heard it. I did not speak to her but when I was in talking to people beside her she had a pissed look on her face and moved away from the group, closer to the bonfire.
So the next day I texted her and said: “hey I’m gonna assume you think I’m a whore and a druggy. That’s true. But I am a different person during the daytime. Then, I am a guitar teacher. So if you’re still interested in guitar give me a shot”.
I didn’t hear from her that day and the next day (today) I just texted her the following “Hey reply if you get this message. Just checking to see if you were real or just a figment of my imagination :P
She hasn’t replied yet. Any suggestions on what to do now? I really like this girl, she’s a 9.5 almost perfect, and I think I fucked up badly. When giving advice keep in mind I’m in highschool. THANK YOU!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:08 am 
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Im gonna be brutally honest with you man. You made a lot of mistakes here. However, they are all easily fixable...

First and foremost cut down on the drinking if your out to game. I understand that your in high school and all your buddies are getting drunk. But they are getting drunk, because they probably dont have the balls or skill to game when they arent drunk. Basically, if you want to get real good at this, then limit yourself to 2-3 beers tops when gaming. If you want to get tanked with the boys, then by all means give'r, but your not going to get the results you want. Also, Id lay off the weed as well. But thats your call. I dont mean to sound like your mom haha.

Next, it didnt end up hurting you, but in the future NEVER call a girl 4 times in a row or in one day if she doesnt answer!!! If she doesnt pickup, trust that shes busy or shes not near her phone. You showed a lot of neediness, and lowered your value by calling her so many times. Thats how you scare girls away. Next time, if a girl doesnt answer the first time just shoot her a text saying "Omg the craziest thing happened to me today...call me when you get the chance." She'll call back...

Moving on, you should've atleast said "hey hows it going...yada, yada, yada" when you saw this girl at the first party. Parties are so easy to run game at because your going to be around the same group of people all night. Therefore, its easy to bounce around and shoot the shit with multiple sets. Your lucky she was still interested the 2nd night you saw her, because her perception could've easily been "oh this guy just creeps girls on facebook but doesnt have the balls to talk to them in person."

Nonetheless, you still had her interest even after the short encounter on the 2nd night. Before your friend picked you up, you could've easily setup a Day 2 with her right there and then. Its alot easier to do that in person, then on the phone.

The final strike though was when you hooked up with another broad. Well actually it was more the fact that she found out. Dont worry though, I along with several other guys have cockblocked themselves because they blabbed after a makeout. Next time, dont worry about validating yourself to your buddies. If you ended up getting your target thats a hell of a lot more validation, then a make out sesh with some broad at a bonfire.

My suggestion going forward is to either quit while your behind or go direct and be upfront with her. Theres no game you can run that will dig you out of the hole you created. Its clear she was pissed at you, and your text game only hurt you more. You lowered value big time with this girl, and you tried to validate yourslef by saying "Im a different person during the daytime". Way to much neediness man. The follow up text furthers only displays further neediness. Basically, your only shot in hell is to go direct IN PERSON. I wouldnt text or call her till you see her again. When you do, you can go direct with her and say something along the lines of "look, I really fucked up. I was drunk and high and made some real stupid decisions. I really like you, because I think your a real cool person who has a lot going for her..." basically just go from the heart (as gay as it sounds) but dont compliment her looks. Compliment her personality.

Otherwise just move on man, theres plenty of girls out there. This is just another learning experience. Im sorry if I was too hard on you man, but thats my personal opinion. Hopefully, it helps you out. Let me know what you think of my feedback.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:25 am 
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thanks for taking the time to help me out man. I think I won't back out yet, but just not call or text her or talk to her on facebook at all until I see her at another party, and I will just say all the gay shit that you suggested when I see her. Another question tho. How do I approach her, when I do? She'll probably be in a group with like 2 or 3 girls and possibly a guy.

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Actually, now that I've thought about it some more, you do have a couple options. First and foremost, I just want to re-emphasis the point that you dont contact her unless she does first.

Now the next time you see her will almost certainly be in a group setting. So get over the fact that you'll have to approach her while shes with a group of people. The simplest way to go about it would be to interrupt the set and try to isolate her from the group immeaditely. From there you would have to go direct from the heart.

However, in my head I put myself in your shoes and thought about what I would do. Personally, I would approach the set shes in with a good energy and go with a "hey hows it going!" to everyone in the group. I'd acknowledge the people I already know in the group including your target. Then intro myself to the new people. I would act as if there was no problem at all between myself and the target. I would run the set like I would any other set by acting fun going and C+F. Basically, Id try to win over the group like I would any other set. Then after a couple mins I would start acknowledging the target more and find a common ground with her. No negging, but just be friendly and try to isolate her from the group.

Now that would be a perfect world. Because, you might approach the set and she could leave right away. So basically, you have to gauge her reactions the entire time . Read her body language. If she looks pissed, then you probably have to go direct immeaditely, because thats your last shot at it. If shes receptive to your presence then shes just like any other target that you havent closed.

Hope this helps more dude.


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