A friend of mine was going out with this girl about 3 years ago. I was introduced to her then, briefly, and hadn't heard from her until a few months ago.

I was minding my business on Facebook when (for the sake of privacy I will refer to the girl as HB8) HB8 pops up on my chat. It was late and I had nothing better to do so I decided to start something up.

After about an hours conversation, with HB8, I got her number, and we had planned to "hang out" sometime.

I believe the line I used to get her number was:
Tony: "Nobody will be home with me over break. Who will I chill with?
HB8: "We can hang out!"
Tony: "I don't know how well you can entertain me, but in case I get board what's your number?"
HB8: "It's (then she proceeded to give me her digits)"

Fast-forward to last week, I had the house to myself, so I had HB8 come over to "watch" a movie. After-all, I was a bit lonely... and board.

Here is where it got interesting.

We are sitting on the couch watching a movie and smoking nargila (hooka) and I turned to her and asked:
Tony: "Hey, do you know what shot-gunning is?"
HB8: "No. What is it?"
Tony: "It's when someone takes a hit of nargila and turns to a second person to blow the smoke into her mouth. That second person then exhales all the smoke. It makes for a cool effect!"
Pause in the conversation
Tony: "Here let me show you."

I then proceeded to do as I said I would and I inhaled some smoke, waved for her to come closer, then exhaled it into her mouth.

Now this one of the most sensual things you can do with a nargila (hooka).

As we touched lips and I exhaled, she coughed. It didn't really work. I said we should try again, and again, and again, and again!

It started to get old plus it was not really working (she was unable to exhale any smoke) Also, for some odd reason, even though I was expecting have have K-closed by that point, I hadn't. My frustration was only starting.

After a many failed attempts of nargila shot-gunning, we continued to watch the movie. I starting thinking frantically, "What can I do to make a move?"

After what seemed like a lifetime, I decided to test out Mystery's Kiss Close by simply asking her: "Do you want to kiss me?" (If she says "Yes" then by all means proceed, If "maybe" then say lets find out and move in, but if "No" then say I didn't want to, it just looked like something was on your mind)

Tony: "Do you want to kiss me?"
HB8: "Huh?"
Tony: "Do you want to kiss me???"
HB8: "What, wait, this is weird. I'm sorry I'm so awkward."
THE LONGEST PAUSE OF MY LIFE
Tony: "So, do you?"
HB8: "I donno."
Tony: "Ok, lets find out."

As I leaned in to kiss her she didn't budge. "Weird" I though. I gave her a quick kiss and looked at her as she looked back puzzled and a bit confused.

After some fluff talk and awkward conversation she asked me:
HB8: "Do you think I'm a slut?"
Tony: "NO! Of course not, why do you ask?"
HB8: "I dunno, some people think I'm slutty or that I get around."
Tony: "I just think your kinda cute."
HB8: "Thanks."

We continued to talk fluff and other bullshit... Then the film ended.
As a desperation move to still try to close I asked her if she wanted to go out on the roof. She excitingly said "sure!"

Once on the roof, under a blanket (which I took with me), and looking at the stars, I will defiantly be able to at least kiss close... I was so fucking wrong. Somehow someway we ended up just talking and messing around with my laptop for the next 3 hours... and nothing happened.

What the fuck did I do wrong? I seemed to have gone form a purely sexual bond to a "friendship" with HB8.

After she went home she texted me: "I had fun tonight. Thnx"
I responded with some joke and she answered with: "LOL ... Goodnight!"

So close...

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Manipulation is such a strong word... I prefer persuasion.

Never ever take your laptop with you when your with girls.

The girl obviously still likes you, unless she is freaked out by the kissing but thats not something i could read from your story.

I don't know how you could frame that wrongly with a sky full of stars above you. This proofs to me you actually need to work on your framing techniques.

She will like you anyways.

-- .WS

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True communication is communion―the realization of oneness, which is love! ~ Eckhart Tolle

The setting was there man, on a blanket under the stars

you shoulda make some cheesy line like:

"Man this is awesome, theres only one thing that could make this better" - you
"whats that?" - her
"a girl to kiss while we share this moment, do you have any friends?" (WHILE SMILING AND LOOKING IN HER EYES) - you

Not field tested but off the top of my head, it should work.

-Sleye

Seems like you should've gone about the K-Close in a better way. Style's line is great, but like all lines and routines theres a time and a place. You tried that smoke blowing thing with the girl which was a great idea btw. But the fact that it wasnt working probably weirded the girl out abit...

If I were in that position, after the failed smoke blowing attempts I woulda just said, "look usually it works, but really I just wanted a reason to kiss you" and just go for the make out...

I think this would have worked as well, you had all your ducks in a row, just not the right line to set it off....

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any Man can sweep any Woman off her feet, you just have to have the right broom...

It's not like I didn't try again once I was on the roof with her. I had the blaket around both of us, and my arm was around her lower back. I said some line like:

Tony: "Your really cute and I want to kiss you!"
HB8: "Thanks."

I kept trying different things (I also just tried running my hand through her hair while looking at her... this has worked in the past)

EITHER one of two things happened: 1) She is a complete ditz and didn't get the message. Or 2) She was too undecided as to how to act... which doesn't seem as probable.

She is not the smartest of the girls I have hung out with, and I kinda think she just wasn't getting the message every time i tried K-closing. (I honestly must have tried at least 6 different things).

Update: I chatted with her after a week of not talking and she's still VERY interested in "hanging out" again. I'm going to hope that last time was a fluke and next time (probably within the next few days) I WILL CLOSE!

And let us all say Amen...

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Manipulation is such a strong word... I prefer persuasion.

Weird. The shotgunning was such a solid move. Maybe it got her really high... for the duration of the night... somehow. That is pretty baffling. Maybe the hookah gave you shit breath. She clearly knew your intentions when she asked if you thought she was a slut and pretty much gave you the go ahead by sticking around.

She did ask for gum right after we stopped (I also chewed on a piece after the hooka).

It really must have been a off night or something there was no reason I shouldn't have closed her already...

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Manipulation is such a strong word... I prefer persuasion.

Yeah, some people have a sensitive sense of smell. Clean your mouth out next time, that's probably all it is. I had a thought, if a girl asks you if you think she's a slut, probably the better answer is something like, "What you do in private isn't any of my business and what you've done up until now doesn't matter to me at all. (What matters is you're here with me now [if you want to be gay about it])."

I did brush my teeth b4 she came. So, I wouldn't be able to even blame it on that...

good advice about the slut thing.

I may meet up with her tonight (day 2 I guess). I am suddenly questioning myself and whether I can close as well as I thought I could...

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Manipulation is such a strong word... I prefer persuasion.

Before she came, but smoking makes your breath smell like shit. Look, that is what the problem was, so just don't smoke this time and you'll succeed. Easy as pie.

My suggestion is when she comes back over, get the setting right again like last time but different. Try to kino her early and if she rejects your attempt to kiss you then you need to freeze her out. Go to your laptop, go sit on the couch and watch tv, make her think SHE did something wrong.

-Sleye

1) Don't ask to do something....this leaves you open to rejection which can be overcome but preferably avoided. Instead of asking if she wants to kiss you, just tell her you are.

2) Even better than telling her you are going to kiss her, use non-verbal communication. Kino is essential. Hands on her legs or around her. Touching. Proximity. etc...Long gazing in her eyes and at her lips. Talking in her ear while she sits next to you on the couch and your arm is around her. Playing and commenting on her hair, negs and otherwise. Running your hands along her neck, even offering a little massage (you may get one in return). In fact I insist that you tell her you need a massage and get one first! All this builds her up and she won't be surprised when you decide to kiss her.

3) You could have even took the hooka hose away from her hand and kissed her. Or since the shotgun didn't work, you could have said "Let me show you something way cooler and more fun than that...." and proceeded to kiss

Oh please, it's just a little rejection. If you can't survive that, you're not cut out for this life style. Best three tips I've heard about kissing are: If the girl is talking non-stop about nothing and just seems to be stalling or waiting for something to happen, it's probably a good time. If you have eye contact for 5 seconds and nobody says anything, go for it. And if you're not sure, but sense it's a good time, go into it slowly, don't just ram your head in there. I've never asked a girl if she wants to kiss. That is pretty much the least exciting way to do it. Just like asking a girl if she wants sex when she's already naked in your bed.

This was the first time I tried it. I was honestly just curious as to what her response would be.

It was also the last time I ask a girl if she wants to kiss me. Mostly because if it does work it kills the excitement, and if it doesn't then it may be to blame.

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Manipulation is such a strong word... I prefer persuasion.