So I went to the mall today to try to overcome the AA that i have.
my goal was to open some sets of hbs.
some "openers" i had in mind:(saw them in a video)
In a scale 1 to 10 can i have your number?
My dad used to beat me,can i have your number?
My parents just died in a car crush,can i have your number?

So the thing is,the AA destroyed me,every time was thinking in approaching a set,my body just froze up,and i couldnt do the move,its like some bigger power that i have no control whatsoever.
I could approach ONLY A GIRL that was the attendant of a store,but it was total shit,of course she didnt gave the number :D
I dont know,i left home really confidant,and now im feeling even uglier than before :cry:
Its like the girls are insane people that are going to torture you alive,i just cant approach. DAMN.

Thats the report,im not happy the results,im pretty down right now,and im not sure if i can actually improve since that time was total crap.
I dont wanna be like that forever,thats why i tried this quest,but who knows,maybe theres no chance.

Thanks.

You might want to try new openers, your skipping a lot of things, for 1 your not buillding attraction, comfort, or kino, you just asking for a number even if you got one it would be really hard to start up a conversation without sounding like a creep XD.

I have the same approach anxiety sometimes, what you should try is first opening ugly girls just to build up some confidence and if they reject you who cares there UGLY LOL. another good way to get over it is to get some one to force you to, for example a lil while ago i was afraid to ask this girl to a club and my bro said if i didn't ask that he was going to fuck me over, so i was forced to ask my friends don't fuck around XD.

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Some people sy 97% of communication is non verbal, its probably not that high but you should definantly learn proper body language and spacing among other things I have the feeling you are just running up on these girls and assaulting them with verbal noise


http://bodylanguageproject.com/

you can probaly download it for free with a quick google search but its worth the money great read and its the first step (not a pun).

I over came AA by asking girls
"what is your favourite flavour of bowling ball"

It's good, because they dont expect it and and it makes no sense at all.
even if its 1 girl a week, its a start.
Start working up to about 5 -10 girls a week, and when you feel comfortable - your AA is gone =d

Actually liked asking the flavour of the bowling ball,but should i ask literally for the FLAVOUR,or the color?

I know theres others stages,such as comfort,kino,and etc,but i what i was really trying was to overcome my AA,so i was expecting to keep talking to the set.

Like I said i could only approach a girl,i guess i care too much of what they are gonna think of me.
bah,its being harder than i thought,waay harder.

I think you are not focussing on the right thing. It doesn't matter what you say. You are there only to get rid of your AA. Just walk up and say 'Hi'. That will work. Or walk up and say " insert random thing". It will work.

You will realise that all of these women you approach, nothing went really bad. Most likely some of them just turned away or ignored you. Some of them will respond. Some of them will smile back. Heck some of them might start running away. It doesn't matter. You will realise that talking to them is a low (heck I would say NO) risk endevour that could result in you getting laid/meeing your next gf/meeting interesting people.

That's a fantastic Risk vs Reward ballance right there!

No moer excuses!

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Agreed with guy above. personally, i made quite good conversation with a 2 set when over coming AA using this line.

I specifically ask for the colour AND flavour. then critique them.
So basically " why, what, how"
it makes no sense, but thats the point
i was hoping they would reject me to start off, so i got used to it, but after a while i tried to open up. And it worked.
Just keep at it brother

Just thiking on taking the quest again is already hard,damn it.
I still thinking how lame was last time,and i truly believe the girl is laughing at me until today,I was TOTALLY "brushed" when i talked to her.
Should i approach any set? theres wasnt young chicks on the mall,just more old,so it kinda mad it harder,in fact the only chick a approched was older than me.
Guess i have to try new things.
You guys think opnion openers in mall may work?
Im gonna read some inner game material,and see if helps me.

Thank you guys for the advices.

You should and it doesn't matter what their age is either. You have aproach anxiety and you are focusing on a result (getting #). Don't. Let me ask you this, would you be more comfortable to go talk to a random guy? I can guess the answer. No. It doesn't matter if you go 'open' a grandma. Get used to talk to random people. It doesn't matter if you are attracted to them or not. Once you don't make the difference about chatting up a graying women then you do a blonde bombshell, you will start to have results.


Doesn't matter what we think. You are thinking in terms of 'seccess' and 'getting that #'. You are not there yet. Don't jump steps. You want to hit a home run without knowing how to hold your bat.
Actually it might. But what will help you more is going out there. If you are serious about getting better do this: " For every hour I spend reading material (inner game, outer game) I will spend one hour doing approaches" do that for a month and you should be good. One hour theory a day and 1 hr of approaches.

If not you'll just become one of those countless theory junkies who 'know' everythig there is to know yet get get a girl to save their lives.

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Theres isnt any good mall around here,its kinda far,so i cant to this very often.
bue yet,im dont realy care in getting the number,just be ABLE to talk.
Im a freakin loser,geeeze.


Again thank you all for the support.

this is what i did and it helped a lot. typical cologne opener. i put a different perfume on each wrist and asked girls which one is better (actually aqua di gio got all votes and versace none). don't think that you are opening them, but that you really need to get an advise. the first one will be the most difficult. Some of them will just tell you and walk away. Doesn't matter. But there wasn't any of them, who walked away without smelling both... When you feel a bit more comfortable, ask her whether she is sure, because all other voted for the other one. If she changes her mind, you can neg her. And then when you feel even more comfortable, tell a short story about you cheating ex, who gave you a perfume which you used for ages and you need to find a new one because you usually get stuck to one and don't change. i got to this last point on the first day, so i was even more successful than i expected. and don't forget to smile and don't speak fast.

the next step will be using openers and realising that you are opening them

much luck mate

Just have one question.........where the hell did you get these terrible openers?

Here's some things which might help:

If you're doing getting this sort of massive AA try to figure out exactly what you're thinking as you turn away from approaching a set. Then figure out why you think that. Sometimes just using your logic to overpower AA works, other times logic can work against you.

Next, I recommend going somewhere where nobody will recognize you, because that may be a factor in your AA. Obviously that's ONLY for the noobie quest, otherwise the "new environment" factor might actually be a part of your AA.

Finally, try doing this with a friend and just keep telling eachother how little the responses of these women matter, and realize that for the most part they won't dislike you or anything for saying things like that. They may even find you funny!