Hi Guys, so I posted on the "general" forum about Wingless sarging. (moved to a new area, friends mainly coupled up) so last night I gave it a go.

Okay so I decide to go to the local town (Not big) rather than staying in my village. I need to catch a train, in a rush to leave, burn my supper, rush around etc etc

Anyway I end up running to the train station and miss the damn thing. The next one isn't for an hour so I go into the pub next to the station. It's proper rough in there, the sort of place where everybody looks round when you open the door, for LOCAL people. Add to this that I'm dressed like a peacocking fop and I'm sweating like a frenchman, not a great start.

Buy a pint at the bar and immediately get opened by this woman at the bar, it's fair to say she's already had a drink or two, slurring her words all over the place.

I'm sort of polite but just wanna get the hell away. I figure maybe I should have chatted to her for practice, but what sort of practice I don't know (Slurring pub regular isn't really my target group)

Anyway enough chuntering on, I get the train, and formulate my plan

Open blokes, genuinely being new to the area. Friendly.
Approach mixed sets, or Girl only sets. Using the time constraint "I've got to get back to my friends" (ie. the guys I've been chatting to in the bar).

DONE

Get off the train, follow my nose to the town centre, ask a bloke at the cash machine where is good to go out.

BAR 1 - 10pm ish (Quiet for a friday)


Hit the bar, friendly and smiley. Bit of banter with barman. Make small talk with a few groups of guys at the bar, but it becomes obvious my plan isn't going to work.

Can feel my value going down as I keep stalling, playing with my phone etc. Feeling like a bit of a loner

See about three potential sets, but get major AA (still a big stumbling block but am working on it) think about it too much.

Give myself a kick up the arse, remember that I am out and meant to ENJOY myself!

Approach 1

Three set - HB6, HB7, HB8 (mid Twenties)

Village people Opener "you guys look like experts on pop trivia....."
Goes well, as usual the Higher value girl is less interested than the others (why does this always happen?).
Run out of Steam, can't think of a follow up and end up ending the interaction early.

Go back to buggering about on my phone at the bar (I know, not good).

Approach 2

Two set - HB8 HB8 (mid thirties)

Open with "eighties pop duo dogs" time constraint, "My mate is meant to be coming soon".

Big learn here, they are obvious lies and I fall on my arse (metaphorically). The girls say,
"are you suggesting that we remember the 80's? are you saying we're old?"
"your mate is coming is he? at 10 to eleven? (bar closes at 11ish)"

However I persevere as we both know my intention, try friends test but it falls on it's arse. I say " Well I better leave you girls to it (wink)"

Good natured interaction and I learnt some stuff about calibration and being genuine. Later on I see these girls outside the late bar as I'm leaving. We joke about if my "friend" turned up. I say "Hey, at least I had a go (smile)" they agree and give me directions for where I can get a cab.


BAR 2 - 11pm ish (rammed)

I like this bar, it's fun, good vibe. Everyone very smiley. Get chatting to these guys I talked to in the previous bar.

Approach 3

Two Set - HB7, HB8 (Twenties)

Best interaction by far, fancy the HB8. Get kino going on early, she says
"did I used to work somewhere, no?, how else do I know you"

I say, "hmm, you do look familiar, but I do have a bit of a reputation....do you have a butterfly tattoo?"

They love this, act all shocked and flirty.

DHV picture of dog on phone, neg HB for having a shit phone. Gettiing great ioi's (when I go to the gents and chat to some people on the way back, "the girls say why was I gone so long")

Big bloke comes in that they vaguely know (regulars), so I get stuck talking to HB7, she's engaged, comfort talk etc, knows people I know.

We kind of get talking to other people they come and see me before they go, I point at my cheek and they both kiss me (genius move that, thank you pua)

See a HB9 in a tough mixed set and don't approach.

REPORT ENDS


Learns

I can solo sarge! I'm not at the mercy of flakey friends going out, don't have to trek miles to their towns.

Time constraints for Solo sargers? Can't "go back to your friends" any ideas?

Approach 1 - Have follow ups to opener

Approach 2 - Be genuine

Approach 3 - ESCALATE. Definite chemistry with HB8, negging, flirting, kino.CLOSE

First of all congratulate yourself on going out solo, you're doing what 99,9999999% of guys are not doing, keep it up and you'll be great before you know it.

Second, to get social proof talk to the first guy/girl you see, and when you're in-set open a group with a target in it. Try going direct, I love it, but everyone has his own style.

Talk to guys about chicks, they're there to pick up chicks, it's ok to talk about it, ask them if he comes there often, if the girls are nice, etc... talk about sports, talk about the scores on the last football match....

Open guys/girls with: "Heeey! How are you!" and if they say: "Why are you talking to me?" tell me, "Oh, sorry, I thought you were x, you look quite alike!".

Other people won't hear what you're saying, but it raises your value up... but don't fiddle with your phone after getting your social value up, get into another set INSTANTLY.

I love pumping my value up by using silly openers to get girls laughing instantly, something along the lines of:
"Hey! I'm in the military and I'm leaving for Irak in the morning, I'm wondering how far I can get with you tonight"
And if she says: not far. Tell her she doesn't love her country, and that it isn't very patriotic of her. And if she REALLY loves her country THIS is the way to show it.
I promise you, your AA will completely vanish... infact, I use this opener at the start of every night just to get out of my head and into that fun party zone.

I also like using:
"My girlfriend is on vacation, what's the chance of us having a threesome?"
It gets you in that fun, don't give a shit, zone, and it usually gets instant laughs.

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Follow up to openers could be something like: Who are you with? (And if you have already introduced yourself you can say: Don't be rude, Introduce me!)
Ask them if this is their hometown, dance with them, push-pull on the dance floor (But don't push and never reengage, I did this a lot, and they never come back, took me a while to learn, but trust me, once you learn this stuff the hard way, you'll never forget it), get close, then push them off and dance with their friends, high-five them for having awesome dance moves, spin them around.
After this isolate, you HAVE to go direct when isolating, else there's no reason for you and the target to go alone, "Hey, I think you're kinda cute, but I can barely hear you, lets go somewhere quieter/let's go for a smoke."

Or if you don't want to go direct you can just drag someone with you and tell her you're going to find her a boyfriend.

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And yes, you can say, I have to go back to my friends, if it's a big place, they won't know who your friends are.... if a previous set went really well, then they could be your friends you have to get back to.
Even after being in set for a while, and she gets curious, walk around with her (bounce her) and tell her you can't find your friends. Now you're 1 on 1.


ALWAYS SMILE (when walking around, when opening).
ALWAYS SMILE.
ALWAYS SMILE.

The key to making this work is to have FUN with it, I love using the silly openers I mentioned earlier just to get you into a FUN state.



Hope this helps.... keep on gaming.


p.s. any grammatical errors are due to lack of sleep, I'm going to bed now

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Smiling doesn't work for everyone. Some people look plain silly when they smile ALL the time.

Smirking though. That's good. A bit mischievous.

Love it.

But hell, smiling is better than looking like a zombie.

oh, haha, now that you mention it, smirking is what I do all the time, kinda like what Gambler does alot. I only smile/laugh when something funny happens that really amuses me.

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nice. I need to try and use this.

PS this was a great field report - I've been out solo before and it's a real tricky beast (recently moved to NYC). I've had some successful nights, but the worst is when you can't get into the flow and end up talking to almost no one. When it gets to pretending to write text messages(because you've already sent all the real ones) its a sign to open a set, any set Sounds like you did all right.

Loving the feedback guys.

AFC Oldman - That military line is GENIUS, will deffo be my first line next sarge night. The threesome line too is very cheeky, will use it when I am feeling suitably naughty. I do suck on the dance floor though, feel I am too old so that tends to rule out dancefloor game, (mistake?)

It's true Smiling is Essential for solo sarging, you are right, it is ALL about enjoying yourself and having fun and I take the tips about going from set to set.
Although the bars in my local town are pretty small and you can't really pretend your friends are in another part of the building, and to be honest there aren't that many sets to open.

I guess the solution for this is to go solo sarging in bigger towns and larger bars. I still reckon I will have "down time" between sets though and I need to work on this to truly break the solo sarge.


safeDan - Thanks man, I agree EXACTLY about the bogus text message sending, that's my standard downtime activity (it blows I know!) and it is ALL about the flow.

Went out the night after too, far less successful but I put this down to being tired and I shouldn't really have gone out. But am getting a real taste for sarging, (this could be dangerous...)

Saturday night

Again took me ages to open my first set, I find that first set damn difficult.

Bar 1 (quite busy)

No sets opened, only chatting to groups of guys. One old bloke getting pissed, one old bloke complaining about the pubs not being as good as they were in the old days, two younger blokes having no idea how to talk to another bloke in a bar (A Stranger!!)
Got great eye contact with a girl as I left the bar though (should I have gone back in?)
Am really working on my eye contact, used to be crap and always break eye contact first. Now realise I have to HOLD it (like a man)

Bar 2 (rammed)

Set 1 (HB7 x 3) One in white minidress (mhmhmh)

Open - Something about how busy it is, the girls move aside and let me sneak to the bar the back way, i act as if this is SOOO awesome. Get chatting to minidress girl.


me - that was cool, aw but now I owe you guys, what can I do for you?

her - erm... (playfully)

me - I do awesome backrubs

her - ooh nooo not likely

me- hey I didn't say that you'd get one, I'm not THAT easy

her- (laughs) blah blah blah something rude

me- hey your really nasty to guys huh? are you always like this?

her - blah blah blah, nice to my boyfriend blah blah only nasty to other guys

me- Hmm my ex was nasty to me and nice to other guys, sounds like you're doing something right, nice talking to you (smile)


Get chatting to some student dude who is pretty cool, then leave bar

Bar 3 (Totally rammed)

While waiting in the queue to get in

Set 2 (HB8, HB7)

Girls - we could sneak in the side door if someone would let us in (to each other)

Me (turning around) - Okay girls if the next person going past that door is a guy you get him to open the door, if it's a girl I get her to open the door. Deal?

Girls - Yeah we could flash a bit of leg or you could show them your willy

Me- Hey I don't know about showing ALL of my willy, I've got nowehere to go if I reveal the whole show.

Girls - (Laugh)

Interaction went great, loads of banter with the girls and the bloke behind them. But this tails out when we all get into the bar and go our separate ways.

Can't find any sets to open in this club, chat to a few guys.

Eventually decide to try and re-open the girls who are in a group of their friends.

Go to the bar to get a drink next to their group, can't find an obvious entry though and they are standing in a circle, eventually I say to a third girl in the group (HB7)

me- "Hey you guys look pretty friendly" (they are all hugging each other loads)

her - "WHO the hell are you!?" (pissed off)

me - err okay, not big on politeness then...

her - ooh sorry (hugs) just haven't seen these guys for agggess.


decide to cut and run.

Just as I'm leaving see a girl who I know is a barmaid in my local village (the one who served me when the night before when I missed the train),

me- "Don't you work in a pub in (my Village)

her - "No I'm John Prescott's daughter in law" (JP is a politician, my US chums)

me- "right... okay......"


REPORT ENDS

Learns

Need to work on Opening first set earlier (will try AFC Oldman's Military opener)
Need to escalate, HB8 in queue.
Need to have good come-backs for smart ass women

The more you sarge the better you get, my opening is improving, still not getting to hook point, escalating or isolating though
Can't wait for the next sarge session!

I don't really focus much on comebacks, I just make this face of disgust and disinterest when she's a smartass. It's hard to explain the face, but keep in mind, it should always come from a sort of playful place, and not letting anything phase you, sorta like a: "aww, your kinda cute when you get mad." (This is a good way to deal with most shittests, really...)

Another thing a natural taught me was to involve the friends when she gets all cranky. Like Mystery's line: "Is she always like this? " (Yeah, Mystery is lame, but he has some good lines )

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hey great first run on your own i admire you for that as i always have to go out with friends.

You may already do this but whenever i get shit tested by a girl i always respond with an IOD but with a cheeky smile as not to come off as too arrogant.And if i cant think of any natural ways to respond off the top of my head then i go home and think off one as too when the next time a girls gives the same style of shittest ive got a smooth answer. You didnt exactly say what your response was too theese .
For the first one i would have ignored the age thing completely and stated how uncool she is for not knowing any 80s music (make her qualify herself) and then talk too one of her friends saying something along the lines off " i hope youve got more taste than her" and block her mate off with your body. for the second one "im meeting my friend here soon" i would have just simply said either "wow im amazed you can read the time , my first impressions of you were that you were a bit slow " (cheeky smile so she knows your joking) or a simple answer of " yeah im meeting him outside , hes getting dropped off in a cab"
just some thoughts