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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:55 am 
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Hey all, this is my 4th field report, I learned ALOT, lots of mistakes, lots of things done right.

It's kinda long, but it has good pointers in it for newbies. I'd also appreciate some feedback, anyway, ENJOY!

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I entered the club, got some AA, went to 4 girls I knew and started dancing with them, I was always making sure I was surrounded by them throughout the night for social proof, if I wasn't surrounded by them, I'd spin them and take their spot, leaned back against the wall and got massive social proof.

First approach to get rid of AA: "Hey, my girlfriend is out of town, I'm wondering if you guys are interested in a threesome?"
Her: "Haha, I'm not that easy! My friends are over there, come talk to me later on... I'm [name]"
*HOLY CRAP!!! IS IT REALLY THAT EASY?!?!*
AA completely vanished after this point.

Later on I went to her, hey [name], who are you with, don't be rude, introduce me!
her: "oh... crap, I forgot your name!"
I do a take away with body language as if I am about to leave, she draws me back in and remembers my name magically... she introduces me, and one of the guys is her boyfriend... alright, I tell him: "Great job man, your girlfriend is HOT!"
Then the other dude in the group started winging me, I love that guy, he pointed me to 2 of his girlfriends and is like: "She might have a boyfriend, but these 2 are still single! Choose your girl!"
I start eyeing them up, and choose my girl, start dancing with her, massive ioi's. I tried isolating, but she wouldn't leave... so I get her number and go meet up with my friends.

I tried getting her to join me, and I learned from this big mistake, I text her saying: "There are 2 girls stalking me, come help me out!"
her: "Why do you want me to come help you?"
me: "Because, I'm not interested in any of them!"
no response...

Then I found a loner, I have a standard opener for loners: "Hey, you look lonely so I thought I'd cheer you up... I'm [name], have you lost your friends?"
lots of fluff talk after that, I tried making intense eye contact, she looked at me, I tried to go in for the kiss
her: "I don't even know you well enough!"
I'm like... alright... fluff talk continues, she said to me the music is too loud. I agree and take her to the lounge room.
More fluff talk+kino, I tried putting a mint in my mouth as a suggestion to kiss, I offer her one, she doesn't bite.
More fluff talk+kino, at one point I'm thinking this is getting ridiculous and I tell her: "Alright, I think you know me well enough now" and I tried going in for the kiss again, SHE WONT BUDGE! "I'm not that kind of girl..."
"Well, I think kissing is like shaking hands" SHE STILL WONT FUCKING BUDGE.... damn... gotta love a challenge.
More fluff talk+kino, the place closes, we exchange numbers, I go home... she text me saying: "Good night, I'm sorry for leaving early, but I was tired, have a nice night. big hug! xx"

To be continued....


Lots more sets that didn't go anywhere and not worth mentioning...


a tip to all the newbies, if you have AA, seriously open with something silly like:
"Hey! I'm in the military and I'm leaving for Irak in the morning, I'm wondering how far I can get with you tonight"
And if she says: not far. Tell her she doesn't love her country, and that it isn't very patriotic of her. And if she REALLY loves her country THIS is the way to show it.
I promise you, your AA will completely vanish... in fact, I'm gonna do this opener at the start of every night just to get out of my head and into that fun party zone.

Another tip for newbies is: DON'T DRINK! When you drink and you open sets, the next time you'll get AA and think: "The last time I opened I had a couple of drinks, I can't open when I'm sober" SCREW THAT, use a silly opener, build up that confidence, but do it sober. Because then you'll have no crutches, and you can congratulate yourself on a job well done.

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Self-reflection (Things I've learned):

- Social proof fucking owns, if you can't close as a potential sex partner, close as a friend, and use her and her friends as social proof.

- Get introduced by friends of the group, you come in with massive value and lots of social proof.

- Girls don't like players... they need to see you with the opposite sex for attraction, but don't throw it in their face with a stupid text saying you have lots of woman surrounding you.

- Perseverance works, I got told by a chick she was 25 and I was too young, I plowed through it and got massive attraction because of it.

- Screw DHV stories, save that crap for isolation.

- Gambler took my game to a new level, with his body language, eye contact and kino techniques... this is all you need for natural game, of which I am a HUGE fan of now.

- When you spot a target, you can choose: Yes or no. Act or do nothing. And the key to not getting in that analytical mindset (e.g. Aproach anxiety), you HAVE to ACT. Even if you don't have an opener ready, have some pre-scripted ones ready and use those. If nothing else, just go with "Hey, how are you?" and you'll think of something in-set.

- I love direct game. Take it or leave it. "Who lies more? men or woman" my ass.

- If you forget a girls' name, after getting the number, ask her: "How do you spell your name?" and give her the phone... works every time.

- I CAN OPEN and I CAN get attraction... with more practice I can go for SNL, this game fucking owns. This is the hardest game I've ever played, but it's a thousand times more rewarding.

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Favourite openers at the moment:
- "My girlfriend is on vacation, what's the chance of us having a threesome?"
- "Hey, you look lonely so I thought I'd cheer you up... I'm [name], have you lost your friends?"
- "Hey, I have a rule of meeting the hottest girl in the club when I go out, and tonight it's you... you don't get a prize or anything, you just get to meet me, I'm [name]..."
- "Hey, I thought you were pretty cute, I just had to come and introduce myself, I'm [name]"

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#closed: 5
Isolated: 1
kiss close: 0

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:59 am 
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you cant push the kiss it should come naturaly, do some good solid isolation and DHV and when there's a pause lean into her ear and give her the "do you want to kiss me?"
if you press for the kiss too hard you lose value. You can try a couple times thats cool and if she still wont kiss act like "whatever i'll finish with you later" and snag the number and move on


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you cant push the kiss it should come naturaly, do some good solid isolation and DHV and when there's a pause lean into her ear and give her the "do you want to kiss me?"
if you press for the kiss too hard you lose value. You can try a couple times thats cool and if she still wont kiss act like "whatever i'll finish with you later" and snag the number and move on
Well, I implemented pauses in my voice, had major eye contact throughout the convo, and when a big pause came up that's when I went in for the kiss.... and I did act like it was no big deal, not like it was a big rejection, I was just like... ok, and went on with the convo. And I'm not a big fan of the verbal: "would you like to kiss me", why tell her, when you can just act on it.

She also told me that she thought a kiss was something special 2 people shared, that it's a very intimate thing. I think she really believed this though. I told her I respected this and that it's rare to meet a person like this these days.

And if you followed the DiCarlo escalation ladder then kissing was the next logical thing to do, after gently stroking her face.... that's why I thought she was really genuine about her not making out with people she meets on the first night.

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You can't try the same thing over and over again and expect different results.
That's the definition of insanity.

My 50cents?

You should've addressed her way of being, with some cold reading embedded:
"I can tell you're a girl with principles set in stone, like you don't kiss guys at the first date. But I can also tell that when you've found the one that has that something, your rules are preceded by your heart and you lean back to be taken on an emotional roller-coaster. Is this happening right now? There's only way to find out."

Look her deeply in her eyes, at her lips, slow down everything, as to make her feel like nothing else matters but you 2. Then, slowly go in for the kiss.


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You can't try the same thing over and over again and expect different results.
That's the definition of insanity.

My 50cents?

You should've addressed her way of being, with some cold reading embedded:
"I can tell you're a girl with principles set in stone, like you don't kiss guys at the first date. But I can also tell that when you've found the one that has that something, your rules are preceded by your heart and you lean back to be taken on an emotional roller-coaster. Is this happening right now? There's only way to find out."

Look her deeply in her eyes, at her lips, slow down everything, as to make her feel like nothing else matters but you 2. Then, slowly go in for the kiss.
I tried that cold reading approach too, I said to her, that she's a woman with values and that I truly respect that, that it's rare to find a woman like that these days, etc... and tried again, just like you said it....

I think she was just really prude or something, she wouldn't even hold my hand while we were bouncing to an isolation location.

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