So, it took me a few days to put this into words as I was quite angry over last Fridays sarging.

I went out in Seattle with a few guys that I met on this forum. They will remain nameless unless they decide to come in here and defend themselves.

I was kind of worried after reading The Game a few years ago, as I figured that every man out there would be getting into PUA. Turns out that it really won't matter because most of these so-called PUA's really have no clue. I have been reading books and buying DVD's from the gurus for a few years now, and even went to a David Deangelo seminar last year. I normally sarge alone, but I decided to take a few local guys up on their offer and go out to the clubs with them. After the night was over I was pretty angry, but now I am LMAO. Looking back, I should have seen the signs after reading some of the stuff by members here.

The 3 of us met at the Space Needle in downtown Seattle. We headed for the nearest club, which is Club Vila in Belltown a few blocks away. My two wingmen bragged about their knowledge the entire way to the club. We went over the gameplan, and everything seemed ready to go.

As soon as we got past security and into the club, wingman #1 sees a few girls at the bar. He walks up to the bar and orders a beer, then says to the nearest girl "Hey, I don't normally buy fat girls drinks, but do you want one?" She was pissed. And she wasn't even fat. That group of girls called us assholes and went to a table. Wingman #2 high-fives #1 and says "Nice neg man."

All of that studying and reading these forums and they have NO IDEA what a neg is. But it got worse.

Wingman #2 sees a few girls at a table. He exclaims "I'm going in." He puts his arms straight out like an airplane and "flys" over to them making jet noises. The girls laugh at first, but then he says "Coming in for a landing" and takes a seat with them. They just stare. Then he says "What's up?" They continue to stare. More silence. Then one of the girls says "It's our friends birthday and we would like to be alone." He just says OK and walks away.

And when you think it wouldn't get worse: Wingman #1 says "You did it wrong, observe the master." Then he does the EXACT same thing...arms out like an airplane, jet noises all the way to the same girls table. He does the coming in for a landing bit and sits down and says "Hey, I'm wingman #1 blah blah blah can I buy you fine ladies a drink and sit here with you?" He stared at the ground the entire time talking to them. The girls left the club.

We went outside for a cigarette, and about 6 nice looking females asked if they could have a cigarette. The knuckleheads practically gave away their whole pack of cigarettes to these chicks. "Here take two, it's ok." The girls took the smokes and left. Not even a thank you. All wingman #1 could say was "What a bunch of bitches. They didn't even stay to smoke with us." Duh.

We decided to head to another club. We took a cab to Club Amber. I already knew what was coming. Club Amber is a sausage-fest. Five men for every one female. The guys did their "negs", calling girls fat, ugly, and so on. They did their stupid airplane routine. They bought girls drink after drink. I couldn't even attempt anything because the girls had seen me with these guys.

I'm no master, not by a long shot. But I get phone numbers and have pulled a few one night stands. The Pick Up Arts have really changed my life, and it works if you really use it and use it correctly. But what I saw that night confirmed my suspicions. Most people that post here are serious AFC's. No amount of seminars, boot camps, DVDs, or books are going to help them. They just don't get it. Maybe they are not smart enough. Maybe it's a confidence thing. I don't know. But you can tell by reading what they write here that most men still are not understanding the game. Just pay attention to their grammar and spelling, and that should tell you if they have the mental capacity to learn the game.

Choose your wingmen wisely.

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What a disaster, seriously... If I were you, I would step my foot down the moment they started lowering my value with suck idiotic routines and so called "negs". Didn't you tell them that practically everything they were doing was wrong?.

LOL hahaha sorry man I was actually tearing while reading this
If I were you, the second I saw them doing these "Routines" I would say, "thank you guys, It has been a pleasure" and flee.

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Man I tried. They didn't believe me. They said they had been doing these routines for years with success. The airplane thing made the girls laugh, but they had no follow up. And they would do it from table to table. It was actually one of the most embarrassing things I have ever seen in my life. One of them has been a member here for like 3 years and gives advise to people regularly so I thought he was safe.

I really hope they have the balls to read this and respond with their reasoning. I won't call them out by name because I don't want to get banned.

But everything they did was pure AFC. They have spent money learning this stuff, just like I have. I have learned that most men just are not smart enough to comprehend the material. If you look at their spelling and grammar it's no wonder they can't comprehend.

I actually felt sad for them. They were both better than average looking with nice clothes. You could tell they worked out at the gym all the time. They were probably better off without ever learning PUA. Now they are just clowns.

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Herein is the problem with a lot of PUA advice. They try to make one size fit all.

"You MUST be a cocky, funny, neg-slinging hyper-alpha, even if that's the total opposite of who you really are! ACT THIS WAY. AND ONLY THIS WAY. IF IT DOESN'T COME NATURAL TO YOU, YOU'RE NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH, GOD DAMN IT!"

The truth is, those tactics don't work for everyone, and they totally ruin some people's whole persona. Listening to you describe them, these guys are basically the personality equivalent of the insecure obese chick who tries to compensate by strutting around in short shorts and a tube top.

It doesn't work for them, people don't like it, and they'd be better off with something that works with their nature instead of cheesing it up.

Oh, that was funnier than sh*t. You just made my night. Lesson learned eh?

Honestly, I didn't expect this post to be this funny. God, the airplane thing was killing me...and then the second "landing"....I honestly think if I went out with these guys, instead of getting frustrated, I would have thought of it as a night out for my own comic relief. I would have thrown new ideas out there for them to try. Maybe some sort of a helicopter landing or a mock ice skating approach...whatever I could think of.

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lmao damn that is funny... bring a video camera next time ha