FR #1: 1st time sarging ever



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:51 pm 
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Date - 12/12/09

Sorry for the length of my post. This is my 1st ever sarge, so I'm excited. I want some constructive opinions/advice too :)

So got to know about this whole PUA world a week back. Have been reading & watching videos up non-stop since then. So finally decided to go on my 1st sarge ever by myself.
A bit of a background. I'm 23. I've always had this terrible AA, with all strangers. I won't say I am socially retarded, but not good. I'm not from US. English is not my native language, but I speak it fairly fluently but not 100% though. I came to US about 7 months ago. I'm a quite type of person. So I have to try hard to be talkative !

So, I get out quite late. I reach a bar/lounge @ about 12.30 AM. I am experiencing terrible AA, since I'm not used to club environment at all. Been there only a few times in my life !
So, I am stuck up besides the entrance with my cell phone out, just to pretend. I'm going over the openers again & again in my mind. Finally, I say to myself WTF & go in !
I want to be like this social guy who talks up to everyone. But then this thinking in my mind keeps me away from doing so all the time, that I don't want to look like trying too hard. Have to look natural !
I wander a bit, go up to the bar area. I notice this nice HB7.5 there. Now, this 3 sec rule is messing in my head. I order my drink, wait for 10 secs & say :
Me : "Hey having fun ?"
HB7.5: "Ya, totally. I'm here with my friends."
Her 4 friends come up to the bar.
HB7.5 Points to a HBBday7: "It's her B'day"
Me to HBBday7: "Hey gr8. Happy B'day !"
HBBday7: "Thanks"

Then I run out of words. Think of running guess the number game. Now all the reading material is totally messing in my head. I hear voices in my head:
"Neg the HB7.5"
Then, I'm confused how the F i run the game. HB7.5 was my target. And by rules, I should ignore her !
In the meanwhile, she gets her drink & walks away.
I wander around. Go near the dance floor. Music is super loud. I try building up courage to talk to a 2 set nearby. Can't, virtually no space to get to them.
Finally go over to a 3 set (2 HBs. 1 alone on her cell, other one with dude) & address HB7 (one who is texting on cell):
Me: "Hey .. having fun ?"
HB7: "Ya"
Me: "How long u've been here?"
HB7: "2 Hours"
Me: "Oh good"
Me: "Hey, I've a quick question for you"
Music is super loud. I have to repeat again.
HB7: "What ?"
Me : Run the Who lies & cheats more opener.
Have to repeat again.
HB7: "I don't know" (Non-Enthusiastically)
This dude comes up to the group, starts talking with target.
I eject, saying have fun & Hi5.

Goto bar for 2nd drink. The same HB7.5 from earlier is there.
Me: "Hey you want to get drunk with your friends !"
HB7.5: Laughs
Me: "I have a quick question for you"
Me: Run same who lies/cheats more opener/routine
HB7.5: Laughs. "Both equally. But you know what the bartender is my friend, he will tell you the right answer." Asks him the question.
Bartender: "Girls"
All 3 of us, share a good laugh !
Me: "I thought the same"
Now HB7.5 has to rejoin her friends, so although I wanted to run some routine on her but I let her go.
HB7.5: "Have a good time" Smiles.
Me: "You too"

So that's it. I tried approaching 3 more sets in between, but froze up. Hovered around one of em for a while, got out since both HBs were too much focused on some AFC hitting on them. So AFC of me ! :lol:
From this experience I concluded that, I should not worry about whole game right now. Only openers & some routines to follow up. I know I have to improve my body lang too.

Questions:
- I can't figure out, how to use FTC, since I went in by myself & the venue was small. I look like an ass using FTC & then show up alone a few mins later. Should I force myself to use FTC anyways, or use it when my opening game improves further or when I have a wingman ?
- Should I use short & easy openers to feel at ease & decrease AA ?
- I don't feel at ease at all going into mix sets, specially when I see bunch of dudes having a good convo in that set. What should I do. Just jump in ? Say something like .. "Hey .. u guys havin fun" ?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:21 pm 
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I good way i've recently used FTC to open up a smoking hot 2 set at a bar was by telling them that I AM meeting someone here (implying that when your "friend" comes along, you'll leave them alone)..

I used Style's opener: "hey, can i get a female opinion on something..would you date a guy that has pictures and letters from his ex-gf"

I later explained to the set that the "friend" that i'm meeting is this person, totally hung up his ex. FTC doesn't have to be just "5mins, iand ive gotta join my mates.." etc etc

It is better to have a wing, that way you can co-ordinate more elaborate sarges, and you have someone to console with after a score / fail etc, and 2 minds remember much more material than one...

Personally, my favourite opener is the drug dealer opener.. its a pretty short opener, but it has got a lasting impact because you can instantly start kino - you get the targets to check you out etc..
I don't like openers such as "hey, you seem fun".. "hey! are you having a good time".. i dont like them simply because of where i live, scottish people have a higher chance of giving a really blunt answer which more or less says "fuck off"..

eg. "hey! are you having fun?"... answer "yes we are - now jog on"..

so i like to open with a bit more substance, if you know what i mean..

Heeey!!, you are just starting out in the game, and you don't have a solid wingman (that i know off) present.. no one would expect you to go in and sarge an unbalanced 6 set.. this is your first FR!.. baby steps!..

Just focue yourself around 1 or 2 sets, 3 if you're feeling great and brave ;)

-Illusionist

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