Crash and Burn but so much learned (long post)



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:20 am 
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OK so, get some popcorn cuz this is a long one.

Tonight I went out w/ 3 wings who are not in the least PUAs. They are cool guys, but clearly AFCs.

We hit this bar that my friend was having a bar party at. She is there with a ton of her girlfriends/school acquaintances. I got right into it.

She introduces everyone very fast:

HB Friend: This is blah blah ablah (real fast)
Me: WOAH WOAH WOAH hang on. (look at HB #1) hi im Paradise
Me: *Continue through 8 different people*

Keep in mind I picked out a couple and did the thumb wars opener. I found that in a very large setting, its hard to do the thumb wars opener and isolate with good transfer (lesson learned).

Me: Let me ask you guys a question... (Used LED Belt Line and it worked great. Thanks Lefty).
Obstacle HB: Only if he gets a belt with an arrow that points down.
I was in
*general flirting*
Me: I just came back from NYC, and we were in a cab. The cab driver was alot of fun. There are some cab drivers that are really not fun, but this guy had his cab all decked out and decorated and was a cool guy. We were driving along and there were these girls in a car next to us at a stop light. My friend started talking to them and the light turned green. We started going and they did too. The only problem was they slammed right into the car in front of them! I felt bad but the cabbie was like "we are getting out of here!" (Thank You Lovedrop!)
HBs: OMG, how crazy!
Me: It was a wild time.
HB 7.5: "You look familiar"
Me: I get that alot actually. I dont remember you, but I just have a lovable face
HB: Oh yea, seriously....
Me: I love the antagonistic attitude
general flirting, by this time the obstacle has walked away

Got pulled away and couldnt close. Met a different girl:

Opened a set while she was looking at her cell phone:

Me: Do you like that phone?
HB: I just got it, I'm not sure how to use it
Me: Im thinking of getting one of those (Blackberry)

HB listens to her voicemail

Me: How can you hear?
HB: I can hear fine
*Puts phone to my ear*
Me: You must be a super hero because I cant hear anything. Or your lying.
Did the DD Handshake trick
HB: Your smooth
Me: I cant help it (Think I should have said something else)
*We go to the bar*
I do the Dime trick (Ben had 3 kids) and she totally didnt get it
Me: Ok, how about this. I feel bad you didnt get the other one
*Did the take the coin from my hand trick and she laughs*
HB: I couldnt tell a joke to save my life. I usually just say the funny part and then mess it up
Me: No way, you seem like you have a good personality
*Switch to career*
Me: Im a Banker
HB: Im a pharmacist
Me: I didn't want to play the "you look familiar game, because someone played that with me and they are off the list" but when you came in I could tell you work at "This" pharmacy right near my house (True story)

Got pulled away AGAIN and couldnt close.

Here comes the crash and burn. My friends dare me (because I was having great luck) to talk to a 2-set (HB 9 and 10).

Me: Ladies, can I ask you a question? Im here with my friends and I cant talk long, but they are giving me crap over the fact that we are meeting some other people, and one happens to be my ex. Do you think 2 people can be friends after having a relationship?
HB9: (who I am now downgrading to a 6 because she was BUSTED close up) No
HB10: Yes
Me: Its unfair to say no. You are only thinking of the negatives.
HB6: No, I was thinking I would just have sex with him.
Me: *Laughs* There is always that issue too.
HB10: I am still friends with my ex, and he is a great guy.
Me: I gotta run, but you guys seem cool and hopefully I'll run into you guys again
HB6: We ARE cool!
Me: Definitely, now that we've talked, cya

Ran into same girls downstairs, and my friends and I walk over

(I ran this crash like the video of mystery plowing through shit tests in the vid section)
Me: Hey, we meet again
HB6: *laughing*
Me: Oh no, I missed something?
HB6: *keeps laughing*
Me: Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, you are silly
HB6: Ok MAN, whatever dude
Me: *Laughs* Come on, I make that sound way better
HB6: *Continues to mock me*

At this point, the HB10 and another HB7 (who wasnt there before) roll thier eyes, and I can tell from their body language they were annoyed, I'm not sure by me or their friend who at this point was being a clear and obvious bitch. Im guessing (and im trying to be objective) was it was the HB6 she was embarrassing everyone. I also caught the vibe that the HB6 was NOT joking, and was attempting to shut me down.

(Mystery Line)
Me: Look at HB10 "She is being such an asshole to me"
Me: Look at HB6
HB6: Continues mocking
Me: *Take a step back*
Me: At some point during this attempted friend building conversation, Your going to have turn off the asshole and turn on the princess that I am sure is somewhere in there.
HB6: looks at me with complete shock
HB6: We are going to another bar, so bye!
Me: *Look behind me to my friends* guys, we got a table
(ofc I said it loud enough for them to hear, but they left).

I didnt let it phase me though, I didnt close anyone for the rest of the night only because by this point the scene was just lame. Everyone left the club and I just hung out and had a good time with my friends.

A summary of things I learned:
-Dont give up
-Maintain inner game
-When you see a set rolling downhill and you cant stop it, eject making them feel like they missed out
-If you wreck your social game, leave the bar. People can tell, unless you are in a secluded area that you got shot down.
-Dont lose your cool during shit tests. Even though I C&Bed, I maintained completely cool and composed the entire time.
- Bring wings that KNOW how to game (it didnt help that they just stood nearby and watched like it was monday night football)
- If you are working a set, dont let yourself get pulled away. One HB I was really into started talking to a diff guy (who i met and was cool so I didnt be a dick and ruin it) when another friend wanted to talk to me
- Dont spread yourself thin, keep a focus on what targets you are going for and stick to it

Any feedback? I know its long but I figured a post like this would be good for everyone to learn from.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:44 am 
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I definitely learned from this post. I was at the club acouple weeks ago and I opened up couple set but didnt go much from there. hopefully next time it will be better! I still need to calibrate


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:01 pm 
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- Dont spread yourself thin, keep a focus on what targets you are going for
Most definitely...I went to V lounge in santa monica last friday and opened up like 4 sets, all of which i used time constaints. I did really well, but by the time it came down to reapproach them i was too tired from all the game i was running early in the night, and i decided to bail instead. Also saw an HB10 later, and could only muster a smile, and sat by and watched like an AFC as some other guy swooped in.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:28 am 
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jinla I feel you.

Probably the most important lesson I got from the night.

I think the actual reason I crashed and burned was that the girls that thought I was cool at first saw me talking game to a bunch of other girls. Although I wasnt actively trying to sleep with any of them (That is what day 2 is for), they probably got the wrong impression.

but jinla, I can understand when you say some AFC came in and fucked up your shit. You live and learn brother, but never give up.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:56 am 
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Dude, you used my belt buckle and dime trick, awesome!!!! *grabs your head and gives you a noogie*

I did the same thing but I tried my belt buckle in front of a girl and her BF. (sigh all for the sake of research, which by the way eluding to another post, I am a researching-action PUA. I take calculated risks; knowing what my current level is, testing old material on new targets and new material on both old and new for multi-threading).

I didn't really see anything that would give rise to a crash and burn status, and trust me Ive read posts in here where someone who just joined reads one or two posts goes out and tries some made up stuff (the flaw of the action only PUA, with little research) based on confidence alone, gets soo flamed that they don't even realize it and have to ask what's step two...


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