Solid Sarge w/unforseen twist. Advice please



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:08 pm 
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Ok, here's the sarge:

My wing and head into a bar after a good night out with some close friends. After getting beers I immediately open a college HB 8 two-set. I open by telling them they look super feisty. They respond by laughing and looking at each other not really knowing what to say. From there I go into the “would you date a guy who was in a wheel chair?”. They open up and start talking about if they would or not. The target is honest and says no way, unless she was married to the guy and an accident happened after they were together. Obstacle says pretty much the same thing. From there I mix in some cocky funny by busting on the targets response as a neg. “What, you wouldn’t date him even if he had a super hot wheel chair, like one with chromed out rims?” Target and obstacle start laughing. I then tell her I didn’t perceive her as a superficial person. They laugh and again wait for me to carry the conversation.

This is probably one of the hardest parts about this PUA game…..carrying the conversation. My inner AFC always tells me to read her and react to what she says….NOT THE CASE….I need to LEAD!!! From there I transition into some natural game just vibing about what they wanted to be when they grew up. They give me their responses and I laugh as a semi-neg about what they said. After that, my wing saves me a step and takes the obstacle away Lucky for me I have a good buddy who can hold his own.

From there the target begins to give me some IOI’s, she asks my name and puts her hand on my arm. OK, what did I do next…Hoop Theory. I say, “Take a guess”. She gives a couple guesses and then I give up my name. From there I ask her name, she says Jessica. Again, cocky funny, I tell her she looks more like a Leroy. Buying temp goes up.

Now that the target and I are isolated, I do some “YES” escalation. Oh, I forgot to mention that the whole time I had been talking with them both, I kino’d them with some light arm touches and my hands on their backs. So anyway, I ask her if she’s creative, she says “yes”, I ask if she has an open mind…”yes”, So I tell her we’re gonna do an experiment. At this point I go to my favorite game, the Cube. Cube, ladder, horse, vase, storm. I give her some good cold read stuff and SHE IS ENTRANCED. She starts asking me if I’m a psychologist and then kino’s me again.

At this point things are going great. She’s chasing me, asking me what I do, how old I am, where I live. Her asking me questions = me going into cocky funny mode. What do I do? I’m a white slave trader. How old am I? I’m 87. Where do I live?? “I’m not telling you where I live, you might stalk me.” I’m making myself the prize on that last one. After those the buying temp keeps going up.

All of a sudden I encounter a huge obstacle. Unknown to me, the target and obstacle were at the bar with like 6 other girlfriends who were playing and watching pool in the back. They come up and can obviously see that their friends have a high buying temp and they are nowhere near that. The friends then swarm and start to try and revert what my wing and I have created. My wing and I try to engage the whole group but the difference in buying temp was too great. I quickly number close before her buying temp drops too and then my wing and I wind up leaving.

Ok, questions I have for the forum. Was this the right move, did I not go far enough? Should I have done a venue change/mini date, caveman her to a different part of the bar and kiss close. I’d like to hear some real advice on my close and the sarge.


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First of all, good job. I don't know how long you've been at it, but that was a solid, textbook sarge. You used the knowledge you have acquired thus far very well. In the end, you made not the 'best' move (if there is such a thing) but nonetheless a very safe and effective more. Especially since you were blind sided by the large group, in the future, you might wanna slip a question about who shes here with, early on asking the other girl or her if you have to.

Anyway, heres my input.
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My inner AFC always tells me to read her and react to what she says….NOT THE CASE….I need to LEAD!!!
Good observation.
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Ok, questions I have for the forum. Was this the right move, did I not go far enough? Should I have done a venue change/mini date, caveman her to a different part of the bar and kiss close. I’d like to hear some real advice on my close and the sarge.
As far as there being a 'right move', I don't think there is such a thing, because a variety of different scenarios could play out all with different moves, some of them being better than others. Regardless, like I said, you made a very safe call to number close and get the hell out before anything went wrong. Judging from what you wrote, the encounter seemed short and sweet. It will leave her most likely wanting to see this interesting guy again.

Hope all went well with the days following the encounter.

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