Day game.

Standing near a bus stop leaning up against the wall ( james dean style)
I saw a 3 set cross at the traffic lights(50 yards away) one of the girls,(my target) well from that far away it looked like she looked straight at me for a few seconds and carrying on talking to her friends , she was on the left, there was one in the middle and one on the right , anyhow as they got abit closer and was about to pass me the target looked at me again . So... I say excuss me , can I borrow your friend for two seconds(talking directly at the other 2) the target says who me? I say yes you I just want to talk to you( she looked like she was going to comply as her feet turned towards me), the one in the middle said what for ? I said 2 seconds of your time were be standing just here... "No you want" in an assertive rushed voice, then she larghed and lead the way (walking off) as the target followed and the other girl furthest away, basically they all walked of with the boss in the middle when I couldn't win her over .

The End

Im not an expert, nor am I close...but Ive learnt that you should never open a set with "excuse me"...ever.

As well, your opener has to engage the entire group. I know you thought you had gotten IOIs from your target, but you still have to engage the entire group, win them over, and then you work on your target.

Hope that helps.

I do excuss me openers alot more on the street and then go direct which 90 % of the time I do get the I have a boyfriend line, which in that case it's time to move on but I don't think I get the boyfriend line because I use excuss me , but most properly because she doesn't like me that way yet . How else are you going to stop a moving set on the street? I would love to know...

Mr-s

dude you Have ALOT to learn. Main key when approaching a 3 set or more Is to get the whole set involved, AND throw Negs at the target. If you get the liking of the cockblockers you are half way in the pants of your target. Negs and negs at the target. When you become accepted by their group as a non threatening individual, the target will feel left out and feel lower in value. So you switch it up and isolate her and run a routine on her. Anyway approaching sets on the street sometimes seems very impossible, best way is to somehow become part of what their doing.

Ah, the perils of inexperience! But wait, I too found myself in this situation some years ago. She was standing at the bus stop with her three friends. I had seen her before but from afar. Opportunity!

I opened, "Are you Nancy?"

Her: "No."

Me: "Then who are you?"

I proceeded to ignore the rest of the set, number closed. Later, a friend who was witness to this, shook my hand and said, "You have balls."

Anyway, this HB7 I dated for nine months, during which her friends worked hard to convince me of their existence. Sometimes these things do not matter at all. Though when they actually do matter, refrain from seeking permission from her friends, it is a DLV.

Be bold in your future.

Excuse me is already lowering your value dude.

Would you let your girl mates go off with some guy who you do not know that is asking to take your friend-NO! For all you know he might try to experdite her to the taliban naked or to make Nike trainers in some Asia sweat shop!

Read The Game:

Strauss uses the technique but he first wins the group, and ignores the target (not directly talks to the target), now the target has seen that he has been "accepted" by the friends and cockblockers this makes her feel safer with you, then you play a simliar line to what you used and 8/10 they will follow you then you can sell that white arse overseas or do whatever.

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yep.... first befriend her friends for social value... then hit on her friends to make the real target jaleous... don't give the target attention until she grabs your attention - then neg your target... make her little bit teased and fun in front of her friends ( disarm you target and make her DLV and you get DHV) now give your target attention and disarm her friends ( make funny tease recomments to her friends to look alpha)

Ignore target( lack of interest hides hidding agenda) --- > befriend friends ( get social value so you get place in the group hiarchy) ---- > DLV your target when she wants attention and DHV yourself ( be hard to get ) --- > now switch from friends to the target and disarm her friends ( DLV her friends - if you must ) to look alpha ------> female to male interest ---- > male to female interest --- > A3 final stage ---- > comfort zone

When your in the comfort zone you can ask her to borrow her or talk to her for a second because you got social value and social momentum.

when i have done this i usually take her straight to the mosk to deliver her to the naked taliban and sweaty nike trainers