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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:53 am 
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Well guys, finally got a successful close and thanks to everything that I learned through the PUA community. My story begins with me and my wing going to a bar and I ran into some old friends. We talked and conversated then I went back to where my wing was just chillin, looking for a set to open. When I sat down and then looked, I saw a solid HB9 from the back with an ass that I'm still having fantasies about. So I looked at my wing and informed him of what I had in my sights. We decided to join her and her group of friends because there were a bunch of HB's 8 and up around her but there was also my group of old friends and a bunch of other guys over there that I never met before. So to open the set, I walked over to my friends and introduced my wing. When my wing started to introduce themselves, I asked the HB9 for her name and her friend who was a solid HB7.5 since she was next to her. But while they are introducing themselves to me, I never tell them my name. Now this was only possible because of the position me and my wing had when we approached the set. Since I've already built rapport and conversated with my old friends who were with the HB's, we approached the set where I was able to isolate the HB's away from them. So when I introduced my wing into the set, he did an awesome job of occupying them or disarming the obstacles while giving me some time to build rapport with the HB's. It started off like this:

Me: Hi, what's your name?

HB9: Jackie

Then asked the friend who was a solid HB7.5

Me: What's you name?

HB7.5: Lisa

Then I smiled and asked how do you all know each other.

HB9: Through school. How do you know them?

This is where I start using the cocky funny material.

Me: Through school. But I don't remember you!!!

HB9: What's your name?

Me: If I wasn't popular for you to remember that I went to the same high school then you don't need to know my name. (I say this in a joking type of way)

HB9: (she laughs) No serious, what's your name?

Me: Were you in any of the advance placement classes?

HB9: (Stares at me) No....

Me: (Saying this with a smile on my face) Then that's why we don't know each other, I'm usually studying or in class!!!!

HB9: (She laughs) Seriously, what's you name?

Me: Ok, since your so demanding!!!! My name is Sleeper!!!!

HB9: (laughs) Yea, still don't remember you!!!

Me:(with a sarcastic tone) Yea, we already know that!!!!

Then we start to fluff and going back and forth on the questions. The funniest thing of this sarge was that I didn't have to think hard to keep the conversation going. I just stretched out and made a game out of something simple as asking me for my name. I knew that I built enough rapport with her and trying to get in some DHV's. I ended up staying with this set till the bar closed and then finally built up enough guts to try a #-close on her.

Me: (Kind of AFCish) So we should hang out sometime, wanna give me your number or I'll give you mine.

I know that was so AFC of me to ask that way for her number but I rebounded.

HB9: I'll give you mine.

Me: Cool, I like to have fun. Do you know how to have fun?

HB9: Yeah, I'm fun to hang out with.

Me: (with a smile on my face) Good, just wanted to make sure.

Now, I know that my close was really as strong as it should be but with more experience over time, closing with a bang should start to come naturally.

Now I need help or any suggestions on how to follow up once I've got the number. Should I call right away and try to continue where we left off or should I wait a bit then call.

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First off... Congrats! Getting that first close is amazing. It's such a great feeling, and it really confirms the fact that the stuff we're talking about on here really does work. Some people may think that it's all just BS... but when you put it into practice and it works, you're now a believer.

As for the call... really, what you need to do is go out sarging again SOON! Keep on rolling with your success, and get a bunch of other numbers. Why? Because if you have 5 girls that you're interested in/have their numbers, then you won't be putting pressure on yourself to make the call to this girl 'go perfectly'.

If you can't do that, then just pretend. Realize that you are now well on your way to becoming successful with women, and that it really doesn't matter if you don't end up getting together with THIS girl, because another one will come along in 5 minutes.

Call her whenever the hell you want to! If a girl gives you her number, there is at least a slight attraction there. Scan what worked for you and what didn't, and go in with that same attitude. Did she respond to playfullness most? cocky funny? It's all about FRAME!

Lastly... there's a chance that she may not respond well to your call. The reason is that there seems to be, from what i can tell, a bit of a LJBF vibe to your post. You definitely built some comfort, and you did some DHVing, but if you stayed with that one set all night, and didn't escalate, then you may have missed out on your chance. Plus, leaving the set and showing that you can mingle with a LOT of other people is a big DHV.

Not to worry, though. Your skills are improving, clearly, and you've taken a huge step into more consistent closes that don't end up as flakes.

Seriously... awesome, awesome job my friend.

Best of luck!


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Thanks Music for the tips and advice on the situation. I didn't call her today but sent a text message that was continued from my last joking comments and answers that I last played on her before I left. She asked where I worked and I said that I was the CEO of Microsoft. I never gave her a straight answer the whole night. Thinking about it now, I didn't really tell her much about me but a whole bunch of wise ass answers. I didn't put my name on the text and she didn't get my number so she's probably wondering who the hell is texting her. Maybe I should wait a couple of days before texting her again. Man, I can see how this sort of turned towards the LJBF catergory. Fuck!!! Oh well, like you said, just keep on sarging and improving on my game. I know that I really have to work on phase changing and escalating the situation. You got any suggestions or anything material or books that I can read that can help in this section of sarging?

That same night I also numbered close on another HB8 before I opened the HB9 so I ended up texting both of them today. The HB8 got back to me but was busy doing things over the weekend. We made plans to meet up next week. At least that went well.......LOL But, please comment and any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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that first #close truly is amazing. you really feel excited about what you can do and that youve learned somethign real from all this reading and posting and books etc. its going to suck once "the game" the movie comes out next year, the whole pua scene will change, since all chicks will know most lines.


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I know this is probably not the right forum, but since you mentioned it....why is there so much attention on the PU scene right now? An informational tv broadcast, a movie....I mean this scene started a long time ago, and now they want to blow "our" (not quite putting myself into that category yet) cover? Any links to blogs focusing on the reasoning to this?

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Hey Sleeps,

Congrats man way to go. Feels good doesn't it? And stop beating yourself up over little mistakes. I told you before not to expect anything but an education for a while and you're getting one.

May I make a suggestion? I don't remember where I saw this so I don't know who to credit but, ask her to write down her email first and while she is doing that add "and write your phone number too." as though it's an afterthought. There is something "safe" about email and while she is giving you some safe way of contacting her, it's only a little escalation to give you a number. Asking for a number first is a big jump. If she balks at any of this, tell her "Just write it down. It'll be OK." I've tried it and it works.

Way to go dude!

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Right on Wolf, thanks for the comment. It does feel real good, just gotta start working on my A2 and A3 game. But it does feel good once you notice the difference, my thinking and the way I look at things are a lot different now. LOL....I think it was Styles that mentioned to ask for their email first then escalate for the number also while their at it. I gotta remember that one next time. Make any suggestions you want, they're all helpful so suggest away. I'm almost done with the book and it's pretty fuckin good!!!! Very helpful in phase changes and escalating which is where I need to start improving on. Slowly but surely.......LOL

As for the movie coming out and allowing all of the girls to know the canned lines, I'm not really worried about that. I don't really used canned material anyway. It's all about taking the concept of the material and getting creative with it. If I do use any of the canned material, it's very minimal!!!!! But whatever happens, it's either improve or quit. I'll just improve....

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Nice work buddy. Props.

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Right on Giacomo!!!! Thanks for the comments. Maybe next time, I'll come back with a f-close field report. Ah, but over time. It's all about the experience!!!!!

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