Hey guys,

I am fairly new to all of this and last night was one of my first nights sarging. Anyway, here is what happend.

I was at a club with a bunch of my friends when I approached a 2 set of HB7 and HB8. The convo went like this.

Me: "Hey girls quick question, do you think it's cheating if a guy kisses a girl when he is in relationship?"

HB7: "What do you mean, what kind of kiss?"

Me: "Just a kiss on the cheeck or on the lips, no tongue".

HB7: "Oh, nothing wrong with that"

At this point the HB8 was shocked by her answer and I tried to play into that.

Me: "So you often kiss guys when you're in a relationship?"

HB7: "No, I'm lesbian".

HB8: "I'm lesbian too and we're in a relationship".

I knew it was just a shit test so I taunted them.
Me: "Oh really? Then why don't you make out with her to show you're lesbian because I don't believe you".

HB8: "Why should I prove to you that I'm lesbian to you? I don't have to qualify myself to you"

Me: "Just a kiss on the cheeck".

HB8 says the same thing.

At this time I didn't really know what to say anymore and asked:

Me: "So are you guys just by yourself, did you come with other people"

At this point they started laughing at me and responded.

HB8: "What kind of stupid question is that, seriously"

HB8: "How old are you by the way?"

Me: "I'm 20".

HB8: "That explains it, cus you sound really dumb".

At this point I gave up on them and ejected by saying:

Me: "All right I'm done talking to you, bye"

Later that night my buddies were dancing on the dance floor and the same set was talking to my buddies! Later on I asked one of my buddies if they were really lesbian and he said they weren't because they were interested in him which confirmed my believes that it was all just a shit test.

So what did I do wrong? Thanks in advance.

HB8: "I'm lesbian too and we're in a relationship".

I knew it was just a shit test so I taunted them.
Me: "Oh really? Then why don't you make out with her to show you're lesbian because I don't believe you".

HB8: "Why should I prove to you that I'm lesbian to you? I don't have to qualify myself to you"
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So what happened here was, you played right into their shit test. Every guy is going to predictably ask them to prove that they are lesbians. I ignore those foolish statements by dumb girls.

One of the best ways to deal with shit tests....flat out ignore the statement and move on. Your a confident guy who doesn't have time for that shit. That is the mind frame you want to have.

It sounds like you may have lost this set right around this shit test. Your follow up question, asking if they were by themselves, is kind of a fluff question. You may way to just omit this question all together. The more you start sarging, the more you will realize what questions and statements stimulate conversation.

A few tips....make assumptions rather than asking questions. "your an only child aren't you?" and have some clever observations ready, maybe something completely arbitrary just to be funny. HB: "Why would you think I'm an only child???" You: "Its been my experience that girls who wear red high heels always tend to be an only child...I don't know why. You tell me...."

I also ask questions I am interested in knowing, because they are subjects I like to talk about:

"So have you traveled much or have you lived in little ole' Massachusetts your entire life?" I have lived all over the world, so I give me something interesting to talk about, especially if they have done traveling. I am looking for a girl who has these same interests, so if she hasn't traveled, and can't give me a good reason to keep talking to her, then I want to find someone else anyways. You are choosing the girl, she isn't choosing you!

Another great question to throw in there, especially in bigger groups: "So how does everyone know each other?" It gives you a good idea of who is with who, and other information maybe about work/school etc. Keep that in mind.

It sounds like you just didn't build enough attraction. The shit test was just a variable in the equation. These are all valuable experiences so keep approaching girls...it sounded like the opener worked well. Try talking about things you are interested in, and guiding the conversation to where you can tell some interesting stories. I actually just wrote an entry about shit tests....check it out if you want, I got some good feedback with comments as well:

http://thedatingcroniclesoftylerd.blogs ... tests.html

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Thanks for the tips Roofas, I will take note on this and next time just simply ignore shit tests. I'm also going to read your blog article.

Cheers