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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:39 pm 
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Hey guys today I had a perfect opportunity to snag a number while i was on delivery at my job, but I blew it. I was walking through the apartment complex and two cute girls walk by and one of them says, "I really like Papa Johns pizza!" with a smile. I am very slow in response and say "Yeah its great!" and just walk off like a AFC. I think it was definitly an IOI, but i was far too slow to respond. Minutes later I was kicking myself for the failure. My weakness is that I am not quick and witty, which you need to be good in the Game. Do you guys know any ways I can improve myself in that area? Thanks


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:19 am 
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Act cool. Dont punish your self for that. Its happend to everyone around here.
You were smiling, walking down, happily, you saw that girl, she saw you and mentions the pizza stuff. Then you slowly say something back AT her.

One thing about the Pick Up wolrd is that most of the Times, in order to improve you have to Open, engage yourself into some kind of interaction with a girl. But its best results are achieved when you're talkin TO girls, not AT them.

It happens like when youre at a bar, and you see a girl near you and you say something to her to get her attention, but she doesnt, and you say something more out loud, and she notices you but doesnt pay attention to what you're saying. Thats talking AT her.

By what you write, i assume that you work at pizza delivery for papa johhns. right?.. ok even if its not the case, the examples that i provide you can be adapted.

And its your same situation, the girl passes you by, mentions the great papa johns pizza and you then turn around and say something AT her. Did she turn around? did she stop walking? did she and her friend went quiet and then laughed? Im assuming the answer is NO. Why? because, talking at some1, or To some1 doesnt mean thats enough to actually engage into a conversation.

For your situation, I would have said whaveter you said, but more OUT LOUD and laughing. or maybe they pass you by, then you stop, turn around and say HEY !!... have em both turn around, thinking that youre talking to them, and then say something inventive or funny, like ".... Do you want Free pizza?".... they both say YES... ask one of them to come closer, and say slowly " not to you my dear, i dont want you to gain any more extra pounds...."... or whatever, maybe not comming off insultant but at least, give you the Chance to actually engage in a conversation...

Yes, you had to yell at them in order to be noticed and have their attention. Now its up to you to lead the interaction where you want it to go.

Heres a piece of Mystery Method
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Act with moxie
Moxie means inventive courage. The venusian artist must always be leading
the interaction to where he wants it to go. This is partly due to the fact that he has no choice, since the woman won't take any responsibility for what is happening.
For example, it is necessary to keep things interesting during the opening phase of the game. If you don't make the conversation interesting, then she will raise boring topics — and then she will feel bored and blame it on you.

It's not fair, right? This pattern of behavior can be maddening. But the truth is, if she feels bored around you but excited around other guys, then why should she waste her time on you?

Make tilings happen. Take full responsibility for your shared experience with her. It is your job to act with moxie — to move from phase to phase, to meet the objectives of each phase, to escalate, to venue change, and so on. The rest of this book will explain exactly how to do these tilings.
Even if you come off a bit insulting at the opening phase if you make it funny enough it can be forgiven and the interaction can go on and on to different subjects.

About being more Clever about the things you say or do when trying to cold-aproach.

Can be anything.. you read me?.... ANYTHING !

Heres some examples of possible things id have said.

FRIEND ROUTINE

Girls pass by saying they like Pizza...

YOU : "..HEY GUYS !... YOU WANT FREE PIZZA??..."...(THEY SAY YES )...." OK ILL GIVE YOU ALL FREE PIZZA YOU WANT IF YOU DATE A FRIEND OF MINE,HES GOOD LOOKING BUT HES KINDA DEPRESSED ABOUT HIS EX GF... BLAH BLAH.... (then go into routine )

INOCENT PIZZA

Girls pass by saying they like Pizza...

YOU : "...HEY GUYS !!!!... ( YELLING AT EM MAKES EM TURN AROUND )... " I HEARD YOU SAYIN YOU LIKE PIZZA.... THERES THIS NEW SPECIAL THAT HAS BLAH BLAH AROUND IT, AND BLAH BLAH TOPPING.. BLAH BLAH INGREDIENTS... AND BLAH BLAH PRICE..... (this is a way to inocently engage them into a pizza conversation that might open their appetite and make you look friendly and harmless.. of course youd have to go into a routine, or talk about something else to keep the interaction going )

NEGGING HER

Girls pass by saying they like pizza...

YOU : ".... Hey girl, you like MY PIZZA??... ( huh? yeah !.. )... " OK WELL I GOT SOME PIZZA THAT WASNT DELIVERED BACK IN MY CAR / BIKE (whatever you use for delivery) JUST TELL ME HOW MANY YOU WANT AND ILL GO THERE AND GET THEM FOR YOU... (this is while youre standing normally, like waiting for the next course of action, body language must be propositive and indicating that you have to go, but you can get em that pizza before you leave )....( THE GIRLS SAY.. OH REALLY??.. OK SURE... OK NO THANKS... WHATVER THEY SAY TO YOU... )..... " NO NO I WAS JUST KIDDING, I JUST WANTED TO SEE HOW PIZZA GREEDY YOU WHERE, BUT HEY,CHECK THIS OUT... ( then go into a routine or a pizza related talk )

ok to whatever degree there are many ways you can go about engaging, and being inventive and creative, should be no problem, you just need to propperly engage them, comming harmless openning with something related to the situation ( or use canned material if you like it ) and then stack your material, things you want to say, where do you want the interaction to go to. etc. etc.

Be creative, be crazy, be daring, dont be afraid to blow it up, it always better to try hard, than not trying at all.

Good luck man !

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:49 am 
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Thanks for the advice BassOpens I will try that when I get the opportunity again. I was also thinking about what I could have said after this encounter and this is what I came up with...

HB: I love Papa Johns pizza!
Me: Oh really!? Do you order from (my location)

HB: Yeah! All the time!
Me: Tell them you know (my name) and I can give you a discount.

HB: Wow that would be great!
Me: Can I get your number and name so that I know who is calling?

HB: Are you hitting on me!!? (surprised look on face)
Me: No, unfortunately for you the company doesn't allow me to hit on girls while I am at work (smiling)

HB: hahahhaha blah blah blah

Do you think that would work?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:05 pm 
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These lines have many possible outputs.

What if she tells you she orders from another location. What if she doesn't order but he parents used to. Be ready for other answers. Always have a better answer.

Now that being said, I don't feel like you are conveing the proper things with your conversation. You appear like a provider. A guy that buys her drinks (or pizza...). That's what I liked most of BassOpens' NEGGING HER part. Don't go into the provider role. Stay playfull. Heck after a quick opener, if you want to stay on the pizza topic, you could go with something like:

TheUnderdog: BTW, did you know you can tell parts of a person's personality by knowing their favorite pizza toppng?
HB: Really/No/Is that true?
TheUnderdog: Yeah, what is yours?
HB: (Blablabla)
TheUnderdog: (pause a bit)... that's interesting.
HB: What? What does that tell you about me
TheUnderdog: I can't tell you. If I do you might become selfconscious about it and stop doing it.

The point is not to tell her. This will get her hooked.

If she insists about it, after you have build some attraction and gotten more ioi and given your own, you can tell her you have to go do more deliveries, but you could tell her later. Then ask for her # and set up a meeting later on.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:25 am 
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Thanks TheJ you are right...I definitly need to include a neg in there I will do better next time


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