Friends with each other, that is. I have some ethical issues with what I just did. It's not because I had sex with them per se, it's that I have developed a slight emotional attachment to the first girl, despite my best intentions.

Here's what happened.

A week ago, I was out with a few friends at a bar, where we met a group of girls on holiday. We struck up some rapport. In PUA terms, I was laying on the CF and kino, and three of the girls in the group became obviously attracted to me.

That night I made out with the one I considered the most attractive - not just physically, but personality-wise. She seemed really cool and emotionally balanced. The other two girls were jealous as hell.

Two days later, we met up again (the group and some of my friends), and I slept with her, after encountering and breaking through some powerful LMR.

Today/yesterday (it's actually 6.30 a.m. now, I haven't slept yet) I met her and her friends again, and this was their last day before they flew home.

After the bar, I went back to her apartment with her friends. It was eventually time for sleep. Sitting on her bed together, I had a deep, intimate conversation with her, and I could feel some inchoate emotions beginning to grow stronger. This girl is a bit (but not much) vulnerable and emotionally damaged (aren't we all), and I get the vibe that she's very flirty - she admitted this and said she had kissed other guy's in the past 3 weeks, but hadn't had sex in a year until me; I believe her).

Looking into her eyes, I can feel my heart melting. She has the most innocent, pure, heartbreaking eyes you've ever fucking seen. Ah, I can feel it ripping at my emotions just now.

Before we had the conversation, just before she was going to go to bed, she said something weird: "You know....Sarah really likes you, you should try make out with her". Sarah was one of the other girls who was attracted.

I figured it was a shit test, and I said "I'm not that kind of guy" - which is true, mostly. I don't feel comfortable jumping from one girl to the next in one night.

But after I said goodbye and goodnight, I had to go back to the adjacent apartment and pick up my jacket. Sarah was there, alone.

And, long story short: I fucked her.

I'm thinking it's inevitable before the first girl finds out. Damn...

I will never see her again, but my stupid beta emotions are overpowering me. She's the type of girl you just want to fucking hug tight and tell her everything's gonna be ok. What a faggoty thing to say, but anyway.

*Slaps himself hard*

Cliff notes:

Banged two girls
Developed emotions for one of them
Felt like an asshole traiter piece of shit when I fucked the second girl
I have a long way to go before achieving emotionally mastery

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Please excuse my faggotry, gentlemen. I was slightly inebriated when I wrote that.

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Ha ha, looks like you failed girl #1's shit test. But let me ask you this. Why do you even care when you know you won't see these girls again? And why do you feel like an asshole for having fucked her friend? I just don't get it. I would feel like the man if I banged some random girl AND her friend. This girl wasn't your girlfriend or anything, so why the guilt? They obviously wanted to hook up with you. You probably put more importance into the relationship aspect of this than they did.

Contrary to what you may have been taught by society or your mom, to put it simply, you don't have to, nor have any obligation to, get emotionally attached to girls you sleep with. Women make their own decisions to sleep with you, you owe them nothing after that. You need to get that through your head.

I totally agree.
The thing is though, I rarely form any emotional attachment to a girl I sleep with. This girl however, sparked a little flame of oneitus - which I know will abate. I love the graceful way she walks, the sound of her voice, her amazingly beautiful eyes, her cultured and intelligent mind, (she listens to classical music all the time for fuck's sake!)

But anyway. I'll stfu now.
How do you think I could have handled the shit test?
Just for future reference.
I want to gain some lessons from this experience.

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When girls shit test me like this I like to call their bluff. You see, she was saying you should go make out with the other girl either because, A. she was just having a good time and genuinly wanted to hook her friend up with you, or B. she really didn't want you to make out with her friend, but she was trying to emotionally manipulate you and test you to see whether or not she could control you. If her intention was A, then you did yourself and her a favor. If her intention was B then you did yourself a favor by showing her that you are not the kind of guy that can be controlled.

Ultimately you want to be with a woman who values a man who cannot be manipulated. On the other hand, I would never recommend getting into a relationship with a woman who wants a man she can manipulate.

So, it depends on her. If her intention was B and she values men who cannot be manipulated and who are strong and independent, then you passed the test by not falling into her trap. If her intention was B and she's looking for a man she can control then I think you did the best thing by showing her you are not that kind of man. However, as soon as a manipulative type of woman realizes she cannot manipulate you she will lose interest in you instantly.

On a different note, I can totally relate to you about being attracted to her graceful ways, intelligence, etc. For me, personally, Legion, I would be suspicious of any woman who slept with me that fast. Although I would enjoy the sex and be attracted to this girl, the fact that she slept with me so quick would bother me. You may have to just chalk this up to the fact that she was on vacation looking for a cheap thrill. I wouldn't pursue any further unless she tries to contact you again.

I'm a little puzzled. I thought I failed the shit test? But you're telling me I did ok now?

I agree with most of what you say. However, I'd like to bring up a point of disagreement: "as soon as a manipulative type of woman realizes she cannot manipulate you she will lose interest in you instantly."

That may be true in many cases, but I don't think it's true in most cases. I think on some level all shit tests are an attempt to ascertain a man's value, particularly the question "Can this guy be manipulated?" If the answer is yes, it shows that he's an emotionally reactive guy: he's weak and can be controlled by other men and women. I.e. he's not an "alpha male" with a powerful core or trustworthy foundation.

I have found that women who cannot manipulate a certain man become INCREASINGLY attracted to that man, often to the point of obsession.

And yeah, you're right - it is suspicious that she slept with me after just a couple of days. But damn, she put up some serious LMR, and she got very cold and weird for a day after until I reassured her (indirectly) that I wasn't just using her for sex.
Thanks for reading.

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Yes, I agree with you about that. Perhaps I didn't explain myself well enough. I think that a mentally and pyschologically sound woman may find herserlf attracted to a man she cannot manipulate. And if she pursues you after you have passed her shit test then by all means go for it.

There is another type of woman that you don't want to get involved with and this is the type of woman who is very insecure, extremely possessive, easily becomes jealous and demonstrates a bi-polar personality (extreme spectrum of emotions). I ended up with this kind of woman when I was 18 and wasted years of my life with just this one girl when I could have been f closing multiple girls a month while enjoying my college days at San Diego State University, party school central.

If I can help even just 1 person from not getting in a relationship with this kind of woman there may be some justification for all the precious years I lost my youth to. Remember guys, if a woman finds out she cannot manipulate you and then drops you like a dime, do not pursue her any further. Our natural instinct may be to compensate for some guilt for not having passed her shit test, but believe me, this is the wrong thing to do. GET OUT FAST AND SAVE YOURSELF

+2 brother.

From 19 to 21 I was with a girl who had Borderline Personality Disorder; look it up. She was fucking crazy but for some reason I stuck around...and yes I slept with her the first date.

So never trust a girl you just easily F'd...if you did it, then so can other guys, maybe even other (better) PUAs.

As Eminem would say,
"Never loved you enough to trust you,
We just met and I just fucked you" haha.

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