First Day 2. New to PUA. I feel like a failure.FR.HELP!!!



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:40 pm 
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First Day 2 (kinda long plz read I need your help)
My Objective: K-Close

Just got done with my first day 2. It felt like the worst day 2 known to man. It really frustrates me because even after reading all this material, and feeling confident I go out in the field and get blown out on a day 2 with a girl that likes me. So Im basically going to give you a full re-cap of the days events in hopes that someone could tell me where I went wrong.

So we get in the car together talk a while then I pull out my camera to make a short video. I was like “I’m out today with one of my friends and she’s pretty awesome most of the time…blah blah blah” well she thought this was hysterical she was laughing and everything was cool.

So then were makin small talk I ask her about her family and friends, then about what she wanted to be- aspirations – she really didn’t have anything I could expand on. She wouldn’t really ask me questions back though. So after a few minutes of chit chat I go into the 5-question lie game by Style she lost and she was cracking up. I said “I play this games with girls and they loss all the time, I should have put a bet on it” and she said “cause your flocked with girls haha” and I said “exactly” and everything is good.

So we get to the ice cream place and we sit down in this empty store and we talk a little and she starts telling me how the cashier doesn’t like her blah blah. I basically just try to create some conversation but here’s the problem. SHE STARTS TEXTING…A LOT! And this is slowly but surely pissing me off. I mean I’m out trying my best to come up with convo and be interesting and she starts texting constanly. Then Im like “what are u texting seeing as its seems to be far more important than talking to me (jokingly)” and she laughs and says that’s not true and tells me she’s texting another guy about something stupid like old people or something.

So Im like ok and try to talk to her more but she keeps texting and then I say “well seeing as texting is so important to you I think I’m going to leave” and she is like “nooo!” and is chasing me out the door. We then go to some more stores and she continues to text and I just ignore it. I try and talk about stuff but there really seemed like nothing to talk about after while.

I went off and was like do you have any hobbies or anything and she was like “no”. I think she started feeling bad because I was basically trying to see what she has going for her and she didn’t have anything plus she’s insecure. I’m going to an Ivy League school next year so maybe she took it the wrong way. I didn't ask her in a snoody way, I was just trying to figure out what she has going for her in her life (basically nothing except her social circle). She said “your making me feel like a total loser”. I just laughed and quickly transitioned into something else.

So I try to initiate kino. I give her I high five and she said “that hurts!!”. I said “serves ya right for yesterday” She hit me yesterday because I was sore from working out and I was like that wasn’t funny and give her a playful push. She then retorts “don’t touch me” OMG when I heard those words I was just shot. I was like there is no return this sucks balls.

We get to the end of the hangout and I was like “ok your done take me home Jeffrey” and she was like “I am not your chauffer, your just using me for my car (still laughing though)”. We get in the car and she starts texting again and then quickly says “Im texting my mom!!” and I was like “okaayy”. I stopped trying at this point, but she is still trying to re-inititiate the chat and I just start feeling bad.

Well we get to the end of the hang-out and I’m desperate to meet my objective but I know that a k-close is not going to happen. So she pulls up to drop me off (she drove) and I said “Aren’t you forgetting something” and she says “What?” (she looked very serious). I then point to my cheek like I want her to kiss me and she says “no (laughing)” and I say “your so ungratefull haha (smiling)”. Then we exchange goodbyes (smiles) then I leave with me feeling like the biggest chump ever.

I know that half-ass partial kiss close at the end was totally pathetic and the biggest AFC thing I could have done, but Im learning I guess.

What did I do wrong? I just feel like I’ve hit rock bottom, failing to do anything with I girl that likes me. HELP ME PLEASE!!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:29 pm 
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Alright from what I could see it seems like everything was going pretty well... you might have been overflooding her with DHVs which could have made her a little insecure, no big deal. I feel like you lost it when she said "Don't touch me" and you actually got hurt, you should have rebounded from that by either playfully going through it saying something like "You mean like this?" and then tickling her a little or playfully pushing her again... just get her laughing. I think when she said it you just got too demoralized and it probably showed. The reason the kiss thing didn't work is probably your timing. Never go for a kiss-close right at the end of a date... it feels too awkward and forced. Do the kiss on your time, don't try to rush it in at the end... that's pretty much what every AFC does. If you see her again, go someplace where you can hear music... it doesn't even matter where it is or what music... or even go someplace where it's dead silent and say something like "may I have this dance" and then slow dance with her and kiss her in the middle of the dance... that usually works pretty well. Good luck man keep up the efforts!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:49 pm 
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The texting thing is really annoying, an you reacting to it kind of made you look bothered when you should have just done your own thing to show that you dont need her attention all the time. It happened to me once before and I had no idea how to counter it as I was driving. If I was out and about I would have left her to it, i.e for example if your at a bar or mall then just go and get a drink or play on a fruit machine or go look in a shop, she will follow you up for sure.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:33 am 
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Good point. I usually try to k-close near the beginning of the date to get over that physical awkwardness hump. I might kiss her a few randome times throughout the date as well so that it becomes just another normal thing instead of a big deal.

Perhaps you were relying too much on your DHV spikes when you should have been building kino right from the very beginning. Stories connect to intellect and logic. Physical interaction connects to emotions and sex.

It's my guess that you didn't connect to her physically/emotionally and therefore she lost interest and started texting (which was pretty fucking rude of her).


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