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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:03 pm 
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ok so little background about me: I'm 21 and have recently lost over 100 lbs, so I haven't done anything with chicks. Although I do not have any experience, I have read The Game and many posts on this forum.

I met this HB7 while I was serving(at a restaurant). During my typical conversation(what would you like to drink, etc...) she seemed to be giving me more attention than usual, so I seized the opportunity and used a few lines from this forum. She told me how she is visiting from Alaska and I neged her about how lame it was compared to Orange County, CA. At the end I asked her to "write something creative on the credit card slip for me" and she gave me her name and number!!!

I texted her 2 days later with "How is Orange County treating you so far?-my name from blank restaurant"
She almost immediately responded "Hey my name! my trip was fun, im back in Alaska to finish up some stuff but I found a cool place to live in orange county and I'm going to make the final move on sunday(a week later)"
I didn't respond until 4 days later with "Hey ur missing on some great cali weather this week. By the way, on your way back can you bring me back an eskimo, I've always wanted one since I was little :)
Once again immediate response by her: "If I throw on a parka can I count as an Eskimo? Haha. I'm jealous, but i'll be there soon enough to enjoy the warm sun too :)

Whats my next step? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:35 pm 
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Hey Guntus1 wellcome :)

looks like youre raising your confidence level and thats great.

Maybe you could wait for her to be in CALI, theres not much you can do, besides phone game, to get her atttracted to you.

Maybe you could try some compliance testing, like asking her to send you a pic of her hometown in alaska, or maybe a picture of her via multimedia MSG or maybe, ask her to call you.

Whatever happens, if she complies with any of those request, that should be an indicator of interest.

Other thing you can do, is ask her for her MSN, ICQ, yahoo or whatever, and make some online game.

Or just wait till she moves in to CALI and then sarge her ;)

I wouldnt recomend you to Call her, or texting her that much, since you only met her once, she might take too many txt mgsg and phone calls as too much interest from your part, since you only met once, she might thing that you have nothing better to do, or no other girl to chat with ( which Is false, cuz now remember that your mindset must be that of a preselected person, one who has many choices on women, or at least a person of high social demand, who doesnt have too much time to waste texting an almost complete stranger

All girls are different, she might respond better if you call her, or she might not like it... but remember to experiment in the field. try as many things as possible, get to know all kinds of responses from girls.

I hope i gave you some ideas for you to try out.

Also a recomendation, IF you read the GAME, try reading also, THE MYSTERY METHOD, GUNWITCH METHOD, and DeANGELO's Double your dating.That is only to your reading, remember that GAME must be 90% practical, 10% theorical. So whatever you do, go out more, and dont be afraid of aproaching =)

Peace !!

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Guntus, first off spot on.

First thing, for losing over 100 pounds. That itself is a huge accomplishment. I myself took some motivation from this cause I'm trying to lose a quick 20 in 2 months.

Second... You picked up that girl dude. you have everything going for you. You lost all that weight. Don't waste this opportunity! Keep it up holmes.

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I wouldnt recomend you to Call her, or texting her that much, since you only met her once, she might take too many txt mgsg and phone calls as too much interest from your part, since you only met once, she might thing that you have nothing better to do, or no other girl to chat with ( which Is false, cuz now remember that your mindset must be that of a preselected person, one who has many choices on women, or at least a person of high social demand, who doesnt have too much time to waste texting an almost complete stranger
I disagree slightly, I would give her a call. Every guy in the world seems to text, I'd recommend being different and call her. It would show that you have more confidence then the average guy. However, BassOpens is right in saying don't call or text too much because it will make you seem needy or creepy.

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It seems most agree that demonstrating neediness is a bad thing but most also seem to agree that ignoring her for days on end is also a bad thing.

So how do keep her interest level up without seeming desperate and needy?

This is a simple matter of quality over quantity.

I'd say that as long as you can keep your texts/calls fresh and fun, you can contact her rather often. This only serves to show her how interesting and fun you are. On the other hand, if you text her endlessly with "I think you're really cool . . . I enjoyed my time with you . . . we should date when you get back . . . Today, I thought of you . . . etc . . ." - this would be bad.

Keep treating her to a ride on your roller coaster. You've already done this flawlessly. If you have nothing fun to tell her, don't. It's OK to keep her waiting a bit because her last memory of you will always be that "fun guy". She'll be left thinking, "When will that fun guy contact me again?..."

I would also consider transitioning your "fun fantasy topics"(Fun but obviously, she's not brining you an eskimo to Cali) to "real life fun topics" because these topics can be easily transitioned to real life one-on-one meetings.


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Hey thnks for your input on my situation. She texted me last night at 2:00 AM with "Eeee! I'm on a plane to Cali! My first one way ticket! haha, I hope Cali is ready for me :)" I am going to take that as an IOI.

I am hesitant to call her because then I will have to be clever and funny without having the luxury to think what I am going to say next. Can you please suggest something for me to text her, if possible word for word quotes would really help.


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Yeah Man..
Read the PM I sent you

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yeah the guys are right... keep it fun and lively don't text to much and make it interesting.

some things i have picked up in the past is ...

1) Be fun
2) women sometimes know what your gonna say next esp... if they have been hit on alot. so say something different....

example :: my mate met up with this girl from school in 199? o plonk. The thing is he got her number and started talking... after 2 days... she sent back a text saying... i can't wait for us to go to the pub then we can go upstairs and you can penatrate me from behind while il be looking in the mirror watching you. *** lol he was shocked. This is not a lie either (honestly) *** ( i would of been pretty freaked out if she wanted to watch me as well. ha ha!

The thing was he text back what mostly every other man would. So the women knew what was coming next. Be different and make her think twice.


calling.... well that shows confedence. Tho i think it would be better to go out and sarge a little first. get a feel for what is going on and what works best. going straight into a call and then freaking out what to say would not be too good. you need more natural game my friend and maybe that little more experience with more women to make sure your game is 100% tight. Tho a little more advice. Practice and also don't be afraid to try new things... go out there and see what works for you.

good luck

btw the grammer and stuff might be dodgy. i got work in 5 mins i gotta go quick cya :D


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To OP: Congratulations on the weight loss man, and just keep the confidence rising and rising! Great tips above this post!


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:12 pm 
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so i finally got the nerve to call her, cuz i figure i have nothing to lose. our phone conversation(as much as i can remember):
Guntus: Hey whats up?
Her: hey, just hanging out
Guntus: so hows your new place
Her: tells me a long story about how she didnt get it for some reason
Guntus: So what are you up to tonight?
Her: my aunt is cooking me dinner and then I am looking at some places
Guntus: ok, so ur busy then...
Her: why, do you want to hang out with me?
Guntus: Do you want to hang out with ME?
Her: yeah
Guntus: alright cool, meet me at 8:00 at blank comedy club
Her: Tonight?
Guntus: No, four years from now.. Do you know where that is?
Her: Ive got GPS, i know where everything is!
Guntus: allright, see ya

For some reason when she showed up, she didn't look as good as she did the first time I sall her, maybe makeup or something, but whatever...

During our date we get a little drunk(I paid the bill and she paid the tip, perhaps an AFC move?), towards the end I said "do you want to kiss me?", she replied with the same question... so I kissed her. After the show we walked around to sober up while holding hands. Then we sat in her car talking, I suggested going to get burgers. She agreed, we got the food(she paid), while eating she called her aunt to check in and said "I'm on a date with a hot guy" I negged her by saying "woooo who said this was a date" with a smile ofcourse. Then she dropped me off at my car, I kissed her once more and told her "you can call me sometime" she responded with the same quote. About 30 min after I got home, I got a text from her "I had a great time, thnks for taking me out :) " I did not respond to that text.

How many days should I wait till contacting her again? Also what should I say/do? Please provide any suggestions/critisims you have.

Thank You,
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YOu kept it funny, light, you didnt call her right away that night of the 2.00 am txt....

now, since you called her, you kept a light attitude, and did some great role reversing

"Guntus: Do you want to hang out with ME? "

you took control of the frame, instead of asking her, what did she wanted to do... you were the one who made the desicion for her.

"Guntus: alright cool, meet me at 8:00 at blank comedy club "

and she even tried to validate herself to you(which at the same time is an IOI) trying to make a kinda funny comment..

"...Her: Ive got GPS, i know where everything is! ..."

She kiss complied, which is tottaly the biggest IOI shes given you till now.

Now. keep havng a cool game, again, dont go needy by calling her tooo often. and dont go One.itis. if possible.. go out more and pick up other girls too. Then you will switch the first girl's pre-selection switch on and youre on your way to writting a lay report ;)

good luck !!

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Hey, good job . . . but you should have replied to her right away to her text. (Reward her for good behavior)

Not texting and playing aloof is a chick's move. Next time, just text back right away with something simple like, "Sure thing . . . " (Don't be confused with acting like a confident adult with acting like a total dweeb. AFC's would text back, "I loved it, I had a great time . . I really like you . . . blah, blah, blah . . " And other afc's won't text back at all . . .

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a guy would only consider replying to a text from a girl who watied 4 days to respond b/c we're dudes. as a guy, waiting 4 days, when she was so abrupt to reply, is also a waste of time. wait till later that night, the next day mid-day.

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