I was at a bar with two guys that i met on the night, we looked the real odd group to be honest, but still it was a joke. On our left was a table of 3 girls, 2HB 7/8 and one of them who I find it hard to rate, she was reffered to as `the fat one` and believe it or not, one of the guys i was with said thats the one he wants! i was happy with that.

After 5mins one of guys jumps to join them at their table and totally isolates one of the girls, and the girls looked abit umcomfortable, and then the other guy joined their table, so i stayed on my table which was like 30cm away from theirs and waited a minute before i joined into the conversation. From what i could hear, the girls were taking the piss out of the guys, and i was thinking to myself do i really wana join in this, it seems pointless...

Finally got up to borrow lighter from the fat chick, then the guy introduces me, they say their names, ask mine, I start to think for a while, then the fat one whispers to me Bernard! so im like yea Bernard, and start to take the piss out of their names, but all the time being nicest the fat chick. Her friend sitting in the corner was the target, and i was negging her constantly...
for example, she put her arm around the fat chick while we were talking,(trying to steal attention)and kissed her, instead of acting suprised or shocked i just said to her hey, you know what? I`ve been trying to figure out since i saw u, if u were a lesbian?` with a smile then i said i see who is the man in the realationship! constant negging, her nick name was Witch, ran the whole believe in magic routine, they went for it all.

After about 20mins, of negs, ioi`s they suddenly got up and left, but when she got out of the corner, she came straight up to me, stuck her lips out, so we kissed? i was confused... then she said she knows i dont like her?I said nooo, really i like witches, and girls with evil smiles! then she said see you around! and left? WTF could I do differently?

Peace Dza

It sounds like you demonstrated such high value that the girl didn't feel worthy of you.

Reading straight from the Mystery Method, you stayed in A2 for too long, and never allowed mutual respect, investment and attraction to be reached.

Hope that helped.


-Rocky Balboa

I would say... the kiss was a bit of a shit test... you were having a bit of a frame war, fighting for control of the situation. It was clear you had control, but then she threw a really strong IOI at you. In my opinion this wasn't a "real" IOI, she just stuck her lips out at you to see if you would jump at the opportunity and try to pounce all over her. Once she saw that you did that, you failed the test by buying into her "she's the prize" frame, you lost value, and she just walked away.

I'd say you shouldn't have kissed her, but instead said something like "whoe there, I'm not THAT easy, you're going to have to do better than that, etc..."

Also, if she seemed convinced that you didn't like her, you might have over-negged her a bit, so you might have crossed the line and gone into asshole territory if you were only giving her negs the whole time. I don't know for sure because I wasn't there, but that's a few things to keep in mind.

-Flipside

Yea I defiently agree with that man, I should have dropped ANOTHER neg when she tries to kiss me, it was weird to me at the time, but just couldnt think of nothing Game to do at that moment!

I think i kept the negs in check, probably walking the fine line between cocky/funny and asshole ;p but her friends were getting treated nicely and the target would always ask where i was going when i left the table, she would lean over her fat friend just to kino...(IoI)

But yea, your right, I should have said `whoaa... Im not That easy`Well something along those lines! Theres always next time!

Peace!Dza...