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 Post subject: Saturday night #close
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:04 am 
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So, it was last saturday and I actually wasn't going to open any sets, but my unfaithful wing was just provoking me to prove him that it works. :)
After two warm up sets. They are not worth mentioning, the first was to demonstrate how easy it is and the second was C&B... one HB was laughing the whole time so I couldn't keep their attention. I decided to do another one for warm up even though on the second one I wasn't shaking anymore already. (I'm always shaking at the first set a day.) 2 HB7.5s I'd say, sisters. Since one had blond dyed hair let's call her HB7b and the other one HB7. I liked HB7b more than HB7 (I love blonds), so I made her to my target and I used the "guy has girlfriend, but is still friend with his ex" opener on HB7. HB7b soon got into the convo as she felt left out. A classic. :) The next thing I did is to start the best friends pattern in the "while we're talking here already...". That's when I found out they were sisters. So I continued... Something interesting happened here.

Me: So, you two are sisters, right? Let's make a little test, shall we?
HB7: Sure.
Me: Alright. I'll ask you one question, so let's start. Do you guys use the same shampoo?
HB7b: No, haha.
(I thought: DAMN! Let's see what I can provide as plan B...)
Me: WTF?! I mean you are sisters! How can you not use the same shampoo?!
HB7b: Well, I am blond as you can see.
Me: Ah right. But they are not real, haha. (almost too offensive neg, careful!)
HB7b: Yeah, but yours is dyed as well. (yeah, I'm currently a fake blond for fun, but this helped to milden the neg, so better don't use a direct neg like I did)
Me: Yeah, I still remember my IQ dropping.
HB7: Hahahaha!

This was a good plan B, might work for you as well. Find out why they are not using the same shampoo, you can continue the convo on that. If they "don't know" why they are not using the same shampoo, it's always good to have a plan C to keep it going. Here comes part 2 with the 5 question routine. So, HB7b replied on my IQ joke...

HB7b: Haha, well, I'm smart.
Me: Oh, you are smart. Interested in proving it?
HB7b: Haha, I don't know.
Me: Come on, it's fun.
HB7b: Well, ok.
Me: I'll ask you 5 questions.
HB7: Haha, not a test again!
Me: It's not a test. All you have to do is to answer them all wrong.
HB7b: What?
Me: You don't get it? (little neg on her intelligence, she has to qualify herself)
HB7b: I do, I do. Let's start.
Me: Wait, let's make it more interesting. Let's bet on something. Ah, I know, the loser has to buy the winner a drink.
HB7b: A drink?
Me: Yeah, the loser pays. nothing special.
HB7b: Well, alright I guess.
Me: Which city are we in?
HB7b: (wrong answer, can't remember)
Me: Which day is today?
HB7b: (wrong answer, can't remember)
Me: What's your sister's name? (haha, I didn't come up with anything and the first thing I saw was her sis)
HB7b: (wrong answer, can't remember)
Me: Wait a moment... how many questions were that?
HB7b: Ahem... 5.
Me: Aw... damn... (she smiles) You played that before, didn't you?
HB7b: Well... (thinks a moment and starts slowly shaking her head) No...
Me: Hah, gotcha!
HB7b: What? Oh wait...
Me: Great, now I have a free drink for tomorrow.
HB7b: Hahahaha!
Me: Gimme your number, you still owe me a drink.
HB7b: But tomorrow's bad.
Me: No problem. Let's do it monday.
HB7b: Monday, hm...
Me: I mean monday in ten days. I'm busy the next week. (DHV!)
HB7b: I don't know...
HB7: How about now?
Me: Well, I'd have maybe only 15 minutes right now.
HB7: What? You're so busy? Just 15 minutes?
Me: Well... ok, I think I can change my schedule and make it half an hour. (imense DHV, lol!)
HB7b: I don't know, I'm in a hurry...

That's where my wing interferred with AFC questions for some rapport. IDk if it actually helped or not. I usually don't ask rapport questions during the attraction phase, it's just my style. Here goes part 3. It has almost nothing to do with sarge, but it's worth mentioning...

HB7: Say, do you do this often?
Me: Do what?
HB7: Well, I mean, did you ask people already about this friend of yours and the ex and blahblahblah.
Me: No. (straight and right, they just can't doubt it) I was walking here with my friend and saw you two on 10 meters, so I thought I could ask your for your opinion about this little prob I have. It was a spontanous decision, that's just like me. (note how I changed a critical situation into DHV without the need to qualify myself) Why do you ask? (I turn the game around, now I am the interigator) Did somebody ask you that already sometime?
HB7: No, no. I was just wondering.
Me: Hahaha, I just thought I wasn't the only with such problems. (cloaked my question before as if I never asked it)

Tricky situation, but I managed it good from what I could tell from their reaction. So, after about a few minutes of more rapport...

Me: Well, you still owe me a drink. So, what are we gonna do?
HB7b: Hahaha, yeah...
Me: Gimme your number and I'll tell you when I want my drink. (full of self-confidence + C&F mood, better than the first try)
HB7b: Hahaha, well, fine. (my wing's rapport might have helped, since it seemed easier now to convince her for a #close)
(I get my cell out and start typing it down.)
Me: So, I'll just have to save it under ???, because I don't know your name.
HB7b: Hahaha, it's ********.
Me: Ah I see. A rare name. (note that I act as if I'm not impressed)
HB7b: And a pretty one. (look how she longs for qualification)
Me: You said that, not me. (lol, neg)
HB7: Yeah, but it IS pretty. (since even your sister is trying so hard, babe...)
Me: Hahaha, sure. I never said it wasn't.
HB7b: If I don't respond, it's just because I might have no money. (in other words: I will respond if anyhow possible, text me, don't forget me!)
Me: Sure, sure.
HB7: What are your names anyway?
Me: (still typing) I'm *****.
Wing: I'm *****.

#closed :)

I called her just after I typed it down to check it's authenticity. Her phone rang, it's real. But now she has my number as well. What do you think about this? Was it a good idea or a bad one? Or should I just set my cell on automatic hide number to stay fully in control? What do you think about exchanging numbers in general anyway? Exchange them or just get them? This is the only thing that actually bothered me. Also I loved how HB7 tried to get my attention back from her sis, since she was the first one who got my attention. Now she felt abandoned: Her sis "stole" me from her. Well, actually she stole my attention, which might be worse. :)
In the end, should I call her in a non-AFC way or just text her in a non-AFC way? :)

This was basically the core of it. It's not 100% accurate, I might have forgotten something, but all of this isn't vital. Any comments?

I hope this helps you AFCs, rAFCs and PUAs out there. Happy hunt! :)

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 Post subject: nice sarge.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:18 am 
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Nice one buddy. Just got a few minor issues with this regarding phone numbers.
To me it seemed like you asked for her number a few too many times.
And If girls ever get my number and call it straight away to check for authenticity it tells me too things.
Untrustworthy and needy.
I avoid this completely.
You want to eminate the attitude that, 'this could be your number, it might not be. I dont give a fuck!'

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:25 pm 
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Thanks for the hints. I'll keep them in mind foir the next time. Yeah, I thought that I already asked too often (yeah 2 times is too often, lol). I guess the problem was that I asked too early for the number.

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