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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:19 am 
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Hey guys, I'm completely new to the game. I have no experience in it whatsoever and have only had one girlfriend my whole life. No I'm not here to give you my sob story, we all have one but I'll just say that I'm really glad to be here,you guys seem to be pretty helpful in giving advice to each other. Hopefully this is my first of many field reports to come.

Well let's get down to the juicy stuff shall we?

I went to a bar called Cafe Campus in Montreal and before entering the bar I had a bit of AA but I quickly overcame it. As soon as I entered I opened up my first set of the night. My choice of canned openers were, "hey do you think I look gay" and who lies more opener.
I opened up around 7 sets tonight, I feel pretty proud of that because really all I wanted to do was 5.

I wasn't going in there for number closes, kiss closes or any type of closes. I just want to start mastering A1 with every one of my sets. I made few mistakes like leaning in to talk, some sets I started off with the "chodliest" thing I could say: excuse me would you mind [start opener]
There were some really bad ones, but I feel like I'm actually going in there with a great attitude and I can actually hold their attention for a bit. However there were a few things that were off my game like I would not approach sets with men in it or not start kino right away. My biggest problem was remembering names. Thankfully I wasn't put in situations where I had to ask for their names again but I really don't want to have that problem anymore.

For those who had the patience to sit down and read everything so far, I thank you. For those who haven't well here are two questions for you.


What would you guys say about approaching sets with men in it? Just go in without thinking too much about go at it with every other opener or try to keep your chest up high and act like a macho?

Second question: how do you remember names?

What's the best way to command attention?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:19 pm 
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First off, GOOD JOB! Thats pretty awesome of you for your first night out, especially if you went solo! Seriously, good one there man!

Now for your questions..

1. For "mixed sets," approach and befriend the guys first. Ignore the girls for the most part, especially any targets. Game those guys, be their friend. Once you have conversation going a bit, ask "So how do you guys all know eachother?" Now they will freely divulge their relationships, and you wont seem obvious about it, and you can figure out which of the available girls you will target now.

2. Names are tricky for a lot of people. One thing to do, and I do this all the time even when not gaming, is to use mnemonics. Doing this often will gradually destroy your inability to remember names. Here's a good http://www.buildyourmemory.com/faces.php .

A more fun, game-direct approach is to play the name-game and turn it around instead on them. (Props to the guy who posted it on this forum, cant remember his name sorry, LOL). When in a group and everybody is exchanging names, just give a new and different name to each girl. Make them funny if you can, but whatever goes. Usually after two or three times, the girls catch on and laugh. When they ask why you told them different names, you challenge them to see if they all can remember the names you gave each of them. They will usually do this, and when they challenge you to repeat their names back, just laugh and say, "Hey you outnumber me, I can't be expected to remember all of your names, girl number one!" They will definitely laugh (Field Tested and Approved), and hopefully you did manage to remember one of their names so you can use it immediately afterwards to show that you are just really smart and clever and funny.

3. This one is a lot harder, there is not easy answer or routine that can just be memorized. Read up on innergame first off, as well as what it takes to be an alpha male. You need to be happy, fun, and confident, and you need to project this. So appearance, body language and posture, tonality, as well as how you interact with both friends and strangers in a scene will effect this. But basically, to command or lead people, you need to project a sense of leadership strongly outwards, and you need to actually command and lead people. In RL. So be assertive, be outgoing, be strong. Yeah... easier said than done for most people.


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Good job getting started!
As it comes for the men I agree with daggaz, befriend them first, I know there is a good thread about that on the forum, couldn't find it right now though.
If you don't open set with men, you are missing a lot of chances, what if there are 5 women and 2 men, you can't let that slip away.

As for the names, repeat the names after you heard them,
HB: I'm Anna
PUA: Hi Anna nice to meet you Anna
This works good, but obviously if you are opening 7 sets in a day it will be hard, focus on the important names such as your target and her friend. Not remembering the amogs name might be beneficial since you can neg him by asking for his name at least twice, thereby bringing him down to earth. Good luck!

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Thanks for the tips Daggaz and Skywalker, I'm going to definitely try out the name game. Just to clarify a bit I didn't go solo. I met a guy who does pick up and we would pick sets randomly to talk to .


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Sorry didn't read the original post, ADD kicked in lol. Anyway to remember names I like to do this. Someone posted it on this forum just can't remember who, props to that person.

Basically after she tells you her name, you shake hands whatever. Then you ask her weather she learns better visually or audibly. Most people say visually but no matter what she says you say that you learn best visually and tell her your going to show her trick. Say "let me see your hand" and as this is happening I say "this is how I remember girls names" then spell her name on her hand with your finger. You can even write it incorrectly and then have her correct you by writing it on your hand.

It works good, plus its kino. Also lets you transition by saying something about her jewelry or nails etc. O and but be sure to mention that you learn best visually, I did it without saying that and it was not as effective.


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Honestly from what I remember I did have approach anxiety, but I would just walk into sets and start talking to get rid of it. I wouldn't wait between sets to long I would just start approaching again, by the end of my last set which I might say went extremely well. I didn't get a number close but I ended up having this great feeling and vibe, some of you call it being in state. What a great feeling!


I do remember shaking quite a bit at first but I would think that's expected I've never really opened up a set before. Frankly all of today I've been sort of nervous about going out in the field again because I'm too excited. You guys have any sort of routines you perform before going out? Like breathing techniques, exercises,etc?

Daggaz, I would have to agree with you, I do need to work on my inner game. In the mean time I am reading a lot of pickup books sort of like a stepping stone. However I don't want to always rely on these as a crutch, I want to be able to come up with conversations on my own, walk and talk confidently and proudly. I am working on to improve my posture (it was never bad but I tend to slouch sometimes) and my voice. I've been told I have a very nice voice but I feel I could talk a lot louder.
Again, I apologize for the long read and I thank those who have read this far.


Goodnight, I hope I can post my next field report soon!


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