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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:43 pm 
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Hey guys, ChuMp's here.
So last night was my real first night sarging. I went out with a guy I met on another PUA sight and we met up at a club. After finally finding the guy, updating him on my situation and all the pleasantries we go on the move.
Before I even know whats going on the guy opens a two-set nearby with me in tow. I stood there, trying to be productive but I wasn't really able to say much. We introduced ourselves, he told a story, we left without numbers but it was definitely a rush.
After a while we decided to hit the dance floor and we met 2 other guys there he knew. At first I had a lot of trouble having a good time, but it seemed as soon as I let go and had a smile on my face women approached us. We were approached twice, one time the girls were stolen by another guy, but the other they came and stayed to dance for a while.
My wing took the younger one, spun her around and danced. The other looked a bit older and we "danced". I was too nervous to kino or start a conversation, but I made eye-contact, smiled and eventually:

Her: 6'7"
Me: No way! How'd you know?
Her: I'm a genius! There's exactly a foot between you and me
Me: You're definitely a genius! Yah, it's pretty tough to find anyone in-between.
Her: *laugh* Aren't you warm? *tugs on my hoody zipper*
Me: Nah, I'm pretty cool actually
Her: Oh.
*we dance more, then her and her friend talk*
Her: We're gonna go get a drink

It died after that. I figure I had at least 2 IOI's with the EC and the clothing tug. And a little push/pull with the Genius and Height comment. I think a mistake was not agreeing with her on being warm, I could/ should have said "Yah, I'm a little warm, we should head outside and cool off a bit". I took from this that rapport is a little like what I learned at Improv Camp, say yes to what they may have to say then build upon it. Any advice/criticism is always welcome.
Soon the good music ended and we left the floor. We got some water cause my knees were shaking and my mouth felt like paste. I was a nervous wreck but I was trying not to let it show. Every once in a while my friend would turn to me and say "Smile!". It's amazing how easy it is to forget the basics in-field.
We saw a two-set and my bud said "Rock-Paper-Scissors to see who opens." I lost. Figures right? Hahaha. "I'll be over there in like 2 seconds, trust me. Ready? 1, 2 ,3 go!" After about four "1, 2, 3"s I was able to walk over.

Me: Hey guys, how are you tonight?
HB8: We're good!
HB7: Good
Me: ... Awesome, what're you guys celebrating tonight?
HB8: *tugs on my hoody and pulls me towards her* It's my friends birthday today!
Me: Hey! Congrats! *awkward pause then weird hug, another awkward pause, I was getting really bad body language from HB7*
HB7: We just like partying
HB8: *tugs me down* What're you celebrating?
Me: Basically what she said.
HB8: It's your birthday today?!
Me: No no no, I like partying Hahaha
HB7&8: *laugh*
*big pause again and they laugh at me cause of it*
Me: Hahaha, thanks thanks thanks. Well, it was nice meeting you guys, see you on the dance floor. *shook HB8s hand and left*

My friend was halfway to us by the time I left. So, I got IOI's from HB8 I'm sure, but HB7 gave me the cold-shoulder the entire time, made things really awkward. I know my opened sucked, but at that time it's about all I could think of to say, and at least I said something right? I now know tons of things I could have said and done. If shes tugs often say something like "If you tug me again I might not be aiming for your ear next time." Hopefully she would get what I meant and it would go as planned. I could have negged the HB7 easily, but I'm sure I would've come off as an ass. Any advice or criticism would be lovely!

Later in the night, before I left, we went up to the bar to get some RedBulls cause our energy was drained. I was standing at the bar when and older girl comes up, physically turns my body and:

Her: What should I drink tonight?
Me: *totally caught off guard* Whiskey and Coke?
Her: Noooo *obviously a little drunk* My sister is drinking whiskey
Me: How bout White Rum then?
Her: *look of deep thought*
Me: Nothing goes better then White Rum and Coke
And just as I was getting back in the sarging head-set some guy comes by, puts his arm around her (big wedding ring on his finger) and whispers something in her ear. I give my bud a covert look like "holy shit" then I look back at her and shes got this annoyed look on her face. I'm not sure if she caught onto my look to my friend or that her husband turned up while she was hitting on me. Once they left I said to my friend "Shit, that was a dangerous situation I almost got into".
After that we hit the floor again but I was already emotionally exhausted from this experience. I got to the club around 10 and left at 1. Had we switched locale I might've gone longer, but oh well. I was out of cash too.
If I had to say, I'd say my EC was good, Body Language was good, but I lacked anything clever to say.
As always, it'd be great to hear anything you guys have got to say.

ChuMp

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:48 am 
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Dude! You could have left with a couple of numbers, kiss closes and even an SNL!!!! ;)

I wish I was opened up by women like you in clubs! Unfortunately I don't :(

Work on Sexual Escalation and I guarantee you, you will see massive results!

Your height helps considerably as height is a big DHV in clubs. In fact, hot women get attracted to two types of guys in clubs. Number one is the guy who is with hot women (seriously, you could look like a 1000 year old mummy and pull the hottest HB10 in there by just having hot chicks with you), or secondly, height ;)

Remember to to go work on seduction once you have her comfortable.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:53 pm 
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Hahaha thanks for the confidence Mind.
I might've number closed, but I very much doubt K-close or SNL, but that would've been kickass for sure haha. I need more experience in-field before I can get the courage to pull that stuff.
Yah, my height does nothing but help. DHV and natural peacocking. I stick out, and definitely in a good way Haha.
I think for me to create comfort and Sexual Escalation I'm gonna have to think of more stuff to talk/banter about.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:16 am 
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Hey, this is actually my very first time on this site, however I noticed your post and thought I would write some feedback.

It seems like you really had a great first time out sarging, and I think your only weakness is just the content when interacting with the target and her friend(s).

The first interaction you had, you should have tried to say something first, maybe commented on her height first, or spinning her around similar to your wing. This will set a sort of "fun" tone for yourself and make her become more interested. However her making a comment first was definitely a hardcore IOI, she noticed you hesitate in making a move, so she mustered up the courage to interact with you first. You definitely should have tried to isolate (IE: using what you thought about being warm) at that point and you would have been able to at least number close!

Any time a girl initiates it is pretty much in the bag, you just have to play it cool and continue the increasing the interest level.

With the HB7 and 8 you were allowing them control of the conversation. You started off strong initiating conversation however you went blank (which happens to me all the time, so don't feel like its just you). With practice you will have the content just roll off your tongue.

On the HB7 you needed to engage her in some way, possibly use the "best friends test" or use a subtle neg trying to engage her by saying she must be the "are you the quiet one in the group eh?" or something.

As for that last one, yea that could have been bad if the husband caught you, my guess is that she was disappointed he returned so quickly, she probably wanted to talk with you more but knew that her husband just killed it...hah

Sounds like you had a really great first time! Good luck on the next one!


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