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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:51 am 
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Hey guys,

I'm new to the boards and I would like some help in figuring out how I could have handled number closing better in this situation.

Long story short - I'm at a soup place and I see what I consider to be an HB9. I struck up a conversation and then I invite her to have lunch with me (since we were both by ourselves). She seemed pretty interested in sitting and chatting with me. Anyway, the conversation we had was ok, but I don't think I created enough attraction...It went something like:

Me: Thats cool that you're from England, I am actually planning on exploring Europe as a travel nurse.

Her: Oh, yeah there's always a need for nurses there, so you should have no problem.

Me: Yeah, I really can't wait...So, have you been exploring around NYC much since you moved here?

Her: Sort of, I haven't had much time with my job.

Me: Oh, you should definitely explore more, theres lots to see.

Actually now that I think about it, the conversation was quite boring. =/ Can anyone give me some tips on creating more attraction and being more fun conversationally?

So, by the end of our insta-date, her phone rang and she started talking to her mother who was in the hospital. I had to go back to work so I motioned her to give me a pen. I wrote my number on a napkin and tore it in half and gave her the other piece with the pen. She then wrote back (because she was on the phone) that she doesn't know her phone number and that she would text me later. So, I just said ok, smiled and left.

Well, obviously she hasn't texted me =( So my question is, what could I have done at the end of our insta-date to ensure a number close? And how do I prevent her from flaking on me? Thanks everyone!!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:02 pm 
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Well what I found out in the convo of what you wrote is that you had the bases of finding a good conversation.. Just you were stumbling around the corner for it.

Like you were talking about how she was new to the country. Notice the main word here is "New". You should have thrown all kinds of "new' ideas at her head and used that to your advantage. If this were school she would be the hott foreign exchange student that is willing to learn and experience new things and meet guys.

You kind of DHv'd her for being from Europe then you seemed to try to Dhv by what you do.. Idk.. I don't think you should've mentioned your job at all. If she asks then answer, or say something jokingly like I'm a part time male stripper and smile. If she seriously believes you and doesn't understand it's a joke, hell go for it and give her a lap dance but say you charge in food. That you hope she's a real good cook! lol

But, there's certain topics I tend to stay away from.. School, Work, and.. anything else that is tied to money or obligations, which always leads to stress. Most people when they are hanging out they wanna chill and talk about whatever's fun and relevant at the moment.

Plus, she's gotta be tired of working way too much and not having a life. So, give her a reason to call in sick from work every so often or to see you 40 minutes before work and crash over after wards. Say, all work and no play makes *whatever her name is* A dull girl.. Are you into salsa? I'm starting up classes and I need a partner I'm not taking no as an answer. (Smiling) If she says no, Say ok, You're totally fired at being my new kid sister *Jokingly* and change of thread and move back to the timebridge later.

But as of interesting things to talk about, I would see what she's about. You have to get to know her to where she's comfortable about calling or texting you. Then every now and then add a DHV.. Talk about your childhood growing up, your relationship with your family, How you wanna rock climb, Or drink the finest wine in Italy and swim the beaches of Madrid. Just say something.. anything that's interesting that you would wanna hear somebody say to you in a conversation to see who you were as a person.

You can see if they have a kid side and ask if she could be any ninja turtle which one would she be? :)

OR if she grew up on transformers or heman.. and just test the playing field to find commonalities.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:43 pm 
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Hey Sprks,

Thanks for the advice, it sounds solid. =)

I think my problem here may also be that I'm starting in comfort when I should be genterating attraction. What would be a good way to build some quick attraction at the very beginning of the interation / conversation?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:37 pm 
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The thing of being a PUA is that you have to really take notice of everything around you and even to learn to realize things before they even happen. You kinda have to be Neo in the matrix . :lol:

But say you're sitting with her, Take notice of the things you like. Her hair, eyes, hands, height, etc.. and talk about them... Notice she has small hands and grab em' and say she has keebler elf hands and that she sure can make good cookies with those and smile. Look at her and say I can look in your eyes all day.. I can totally see myself in them (Smile)

tell her how she looks bad/good.. if she's leaning more towards the bad end say idk.. You just look like trouble, My parents warned me about girls like you.. If the good end.. Say, oh you're a good girl huh.. I don't know if you could keep up with me, I'd make you soooo bad (Smile) But yet, I'm sure your Parents would love me..

Or do some bait/hook/reel/ release.. for example, say the girl is blonde.
Pua- Is that your natural hair color??
Her- Yeah!
Pua- Whoa, really!?!?! you kinda have the jessica simpson look going on over here.. Man! Too bad I'm into brunettes or you'd so be mine if I weren't!! *Smile*

or push pull..

Pua- You seem pretty fun! I'm adopting you as my new little sister :D

You're so damn Adorable! You're as cute as my 4 yr old neice, I think imma adopt you :D

hahah wow you're cool, I think imma sell you on ebay.. how much do you think you'll go for?

Those are just some of the things you can do. And have some casual fluff talk in there. but a lot of the things I stated in the other reply is good to talk about.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:27 am 
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Hey Sparks,

Thanks man for all your help. I really liked the line: "I can look in your eyes all day.. I can totally see myself in them (Smile)" AWESOME!! LMAO.

The lines you've been throwing are really great...how did you come up with them? More importantly, how can I learn more of these lines (is there a website ?) =)

On a side note, I just want to mention that I do realize that the concepts of push-pull, and bait/hook/reel/release are equally important as lines, if not more so. Anyway, great stuff man keep it up!

~ Shadow_NYC ~


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:29 am 
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Thanks man.. How long have you been in the game for? I would say your best bet is do trial and error. It takes time for it to come to you. You have to go in field and learn to be quick on your toes.

I have read things from others that I use, and I've came up with stuff myself. Like the one where I say I can look in your eyes all day. I don't know if someone else uses something similiar but i have two variations of that push pull technique that I came up with and the natural hair color one, and the one I say imma sell you on ebay. and other techniques I got from others where I put my twist in it where it's congruent to my personality. Which in super important. Like the one I say "I'd make you soooo bad (Smile) But yet, I'm sure your Parents would love me".

It's about finding your niche in the game and then the rest is easy.

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