Allright... I was out sarging yesterday... Me and my AFC/natural friend. In the bar there were just a few groups of people and we chose a table close to two SHB10s. We had a lot to talk about so we did not start gaming them right away (mistake 1).
After a while this guy comes in and sits down at their table, they seemed to be expecting him.
After some more minutes I cannot resist and open the guy with the gay opener followed by a neg to the hottest SHB10. The guy opens up and tries to AMOG me by asking if I AM gay... Well, I jusst say, no... What else can I do?
I tell him that I recognize him and ask if he is a model for some magazine (he looked like one), he tells me no but these girls are. I just say.. nooo, thats impossible, them?!? They assure me that they are in fact models and I ask if they are handmodels... (neg)
I start talking to them and fluff a bit and run the ESP routine, some magic and some DHV stories. I run the set, definately but I cannot seem to build enough attraction. I get some IOI but not nearly enough to compete with the IODs I also get at the same time. I run some more negs and run a palmistry and styles EV. Still I run the set and they are entertained but no attraction is built.
In the end I just desperately say, nice meeting you and I hope that well talk again some time. Do you have a pen. The SHB10 next to me tells me that her cellphone got stolen but that if I want I can give her my number. I just lose it and tell her... Sorry,no... I dont give away my number... Pick-up artist you know...
Then a kiss on the cheek and exit... They go away with the guy in his fancy convertible.

What did I do wrong??? Why could I not build attraction?

Help please!

Love

Ezo

lol no match there.
they were expecting him and u even gave him extra value by asking if he was a model, and lowering urself by talking about gayness.
maybe if you approached before the guy got there?

you did well to even last that long in the set

but ya i dunno man but to me i think they were just one of those types where you can talk to them but thats it.

plenty more tho.

Well, I think you summed it up right there.

Besides, ya can't win em all. All the models I've ever sarged had massive bitch shields. Of course I was doing this while they were working in clothing boutiques, but hey I liked the challenge. My favorite is when they're trying to maintain their mannequin poses and I run my lines on them, and they pretend to ignore you but they start to blush. Funny shit.

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Thanks guys, maybe you are right. It was so wierd, I got in under the bitchshield, sailed right through it, broke it down, never even felt it... And still I did not succeed in building attraction. Very annoying! Well, another day another set.

Sorry pal, no bitch shield means they are not even remotely interested. They see you as funny, non-threatening, entertaining...but that's about it (and you felt this). The bitch shield as you know is to weed out the chumps and creeps from the champs and studs, and if they don't bother to put one up (or throw up a half-assed attempt at one) it's either because

1) You're a fucking rockstar

or

2) They don't see you as a potential suitor

Hey man, that's the cold hard truth.

Great game can overcome this and build attraction where there is none to begin with, but like I said you win some you lose some.

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Remember false time contraint next time They might've been waiting for you to leave all the time you were there.
Or then you didn't sit down at all when you came to their table.
Or you left your friend there watching you and the girls noticed it.


But I don't know about the false time contraint, since I have never really tried without a false time contraint.

I'm not sure how experienced you are, but if you could not build attraction, you had to be doing SOMETHING wrong. More than likely you were incongruent somewhere in your game. Poor body language would be my first guess. Were you aware of how you were sitting/standing? Did you lock in? Were you doing any body rocking? Were you pecking to hear what they were saying? Were you leaning in or out?

All these things matter - even more than what you are saying. You can be giving DHV's with your words and sending DLV's with your body language. Girls will pick up on this and see right through your so-called game.

Learn what you can from it. Replay the set in your mind and try to watch it from their perspective. Would you have given your number out? If you can't pinpoint the problems with the set, just move on and don't dwell on it, but next time, try to pay closer attention to every aspect of your game. That is why this is an art form.

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Hey guys...

Thanks for the tips, It might have been the timecon... I did not do one. Well, I would consider myself fairly experienced and do not normally have problems building attraction. But it was the first time I gamed actual models so maybe my nervousness was showing...

You assume they are different becuase of their looks.

You failed because of your misconceptions about pretty women.

Ya think?!? What insightful information...

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Aww a compliment YAYS

When I get asked outright If I am Gay, I reply with 'Im open to interpritation' that way I dont ruin my chances whilst not coming across as a threat to any AMOG's in the set

Besides, If you get a close in it wont even matter what you said to the target