I always said I wouldn't write up reports, and I probably won't again, but am still buzzing from some good results using conversational techniques learnt. I am not particularly well read on the subject, having perused some websites and read 90% of The Game (so far).

Anyway, the venue was a town centre in Essex, UK with a variety of bars and clubs. Its an affluent area, everyone appears well dressed and has cash to spend. Many a cocaine Katie around but thats not my thing.

The first venue was a bar. I spied a HB10 who I have actually seen around in clubs before. We've even spoke. But I am going back at least 18 months and the girl was doing that particular club since she was 16/17. She's a HB10. So she has had many approaches and probably brushed off more men then the amount of women I've ever approached in my life!

I can't figure out the dynamics of the group she was in, except to say she was definitely bored, and she appeared to be with her parents. A male and a female which were at least mid-forties, with the HB10 being perhaps 21. I don't know anything about family sets or techniques that cater for them, and I also figured that if there was a male in the group with paternal instinct it probably wasn't the best time to approach. (anyone with any techniques on dealing with a small family set?)

Anyway, the male left. The HB10 started to move off as did "mum". SO I stole in as there was no way I was going to let her leave. I approached "mum" and gave her a "female opinion" opener. Which she absolutely LOVED. Here I am, in a bar, talking to a woman twice my age, and she is throwing her head back laughing and telling me what she thought. I am also getting some instant kino with her touching my forearms. Meanwhile, I can feel the HB10 about 10ft away. She has joined a group of people more her own age, a large mixed group. But her eyes are burning into my head. I can feel her watching "mum" loving what I'm saying. However, she didn't rejoin "mum" so I couldn't isolate her from her new group in that fashion which was disappointing.

I put in a time constraint with "mum" made my excuses and went to the bar. "Mum" goes straight to HB10, they are both watching me and my pal whilst "mum" relays everything I just said to HB10 and they are laughing and looking over in a good way. Some social proof from "mum" perhaps?

"Mum" then leaves, perhaps "Dad" went to bring the car around or something and they left. HB10 remains in her new group. I leave it a while and approach again, bearing in mind its already open really from the earlier dialogue with mum. I get chatting to the HB10 and she is a fucking HARD nut to crack. She has like a complete shell around her. Perhaps too big a challenge for my FIRST ever approach as a rAFC. SO I decide to recall a night from years ago where she had been in the club and we'd been chatting to her friends about some guy doing a crazy dance. She remembers it, immediately grabs my arm and does the crazy dance. She said she and her friends still go out and do the dance. Evoked good memories within her and she was suddenly more receptive. Spoke about some fluff, blah blah, I oouldnt isolate her so stuck in a time constraint and left the bar onto the club.

I felt quite pleased, and on the back of that I used another opener on a 2 set entering the club behind us. Immediately receptive, however the target had her bitch shield up and was really trying to feign disinterest. I used another female opinion opener, they immediately decided the guy in the scenario was me, but I went with it and flowed the conversation and ensured that every time the bitch-shield corrected me with "you mean you" when I said "my friend", I corrected straight back and then negged her to her friend. I hadnt decided upon the target as they were only really a pair of HB7's but I was immediately drawn to the bitch shield as she was more of a challenge I guess.

After a while I got the bitch shield to start telling me her opinion on the subject, but her mind wasnt made up (deep thinker perhaps) so I cut her off, told her to think about it and come back to me and just left her stood there mouth open.

I then went and approached a couple more sets, each time getting positive reaction, all the while the HB7s are staring at me from across the club, with me making a conscious effort NOT to look. Later on at the bar I bump into the HB7's and ask if she had made up her mind about her decision on the opener - She gives me the longest most serious answer I'd ever had (not that I was listening to it, I was watching her body language, ensuring that I leant back to see if she leant in etc I also moved so my back was to the bar, forcing her to come to the front of me and talk to me). I run strawberry fields, a VERY basic cube, and the pick a number 1-10 thing. After lots of blah blah fluff fluff I kiss close. What had sold her to me was that I obeyed the 3 second rule when they followed us into the club, that I used a time constraint, I negged her to her friend about her being opinionated etc and I got DHV by being prepared to walk away and approach other sets (successfully). I seemed to have applied a minimum of cat-string theory and it had worked. The positive reception her friend had given me also meant that I as okay.

However, the interesting part came when I tried to number close. She had had her tongue in my mouth for half an hour in the middle of the club, but she didnt want to give me her number (!) She went on to say that I had probably given all the other sets the same lines....I had memorised them and read them in a book or something! She then went on to say that there was no point in giving me her number as I wouldnt call her! And she said I was arrogant! But she was still kissing me.

I was a bit perplexed and it was almost like a little LMR, but for her number! To answer the above, I said, what difference did it make if I had read the things in a book. I asked her if she preferred her I ask her interesting questions like the ones I had, or whether I should have just approached with a standard line that everyone uses. I went on to say that she had nothing to lose from giving me her number, and a whole lot to gain. I said I'd call her if she was lucky. I gave her some line about having to have a ticket to win the lottery, and got the number. So OK she was only a HB7 but it was a decent start and I enjoyed being able to talk to anyone in the Club. Having game just gives you confidence to open sets and talk to people without the subtext of you trying to chat a girl up. If you can disable the pre-programmed resistance that lots of women have when approached by men, simply by asking an innocent and neutral question then you really are halfway there.

I also noticed a LOT of AMOG and AFC tactics. The HB10 I earlier spoke about walked through the bar at one point, and a group of alpha males tried to tap her on the back as she walked past, and leered and jeered etc. I just laughed. Ordinarily I would have been jealous of their confidence and looks. But I realised, that they would never, ever be able to attract her by doing that. Whereas I had a good 20 minute conversation with her, one which I guarantee she will remember when she woke up today.

I love this shit. I just hope it doesnt become widespread I like having an edge.

Not a surprise that she would be hesitant to giving you her #, you guys were making out, and basically tonguing (foreplay). The tongue is an automatic crossover to seduction. You went from A1-A2-A3 skipped completely C1-C2-C3, to S1. I liked your post, and wish you the best brethren. One thing to add also is when you walked away from HB7 to let her think about your oppinon from your opener you better not try that with an HB10, because those bitches early on will forget your question in an instant. I did that early once, and no play, kind of sucked. Learn from others mistakes

Hi Gambit,

Sounds a semi-successful night!

I notice you are from the UK, out of interest what openers did you use? I have found some of the opinion openers people use on here get some strange reactions and sometimes they come across as strange.

Cheers

Thanks for the replies. I am not completely familiar with all of the methods...where can I find links about A1-A2-A3 etc etc

In terms of openers I relied on some easy to remember classics.

I used "Who Lies More, Men or Women" on the older chick "Mum" who was with the HB10. I used that as an opener and immediately launched into a routine I read on here, about a friend whose Girlfriend found some undies after he cheated on her, and he lied and said he liked to dress up and now his girlfriend has him doing it all the time as it apparently turns her on. She got right into it and really liked it. I will use again.

On the HB7's I used the jealous girlfriend ex-girlfriend pictures openers.

I am reluctant to continue the Who Lies More opener as I believe it will become so common that it will be unusable.

I also fluffed Styles Best Friend Test a couple of times, so I intend to field test it a little more but am inclined to ditch it at the moment. The girls found it odd. But I think thats because I used it in the wrong setting and I wanted to use it, rather than picking a good time to use it on a two set where the girls are obviously close to one another.

Them are part of the mystery method (his M3 model)

you can find it in his book The Venusian Arts handbook

ther are other very good Pickup-Gurus, and them have too really good books,
at the moment i know only the mystery method. I think his stuff is workin really good and i can advise you to buy his book if you want to learn all this stuff..

if you want learn other methods search other books and stuff under the miscellaneous-stuff section miscellaneous-stuff-vf39.html

in not so far future i will read other books of ohter methods too, but at the moment i have to do enough with mysterys newbie drill
yes all this canned material works really fine.
When you have improved your skills you can invent your own routines too. Them are better because you dont risk that the girl heared the same opener/routine before and for second when you invent stuff then you have something you can post to other newbies at this forum

Happy Pickup-ing

UPDATE

some PUA has postet a nice list of links to the products of the several PUAS
http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/li ... t1013.html