I'm sitting in the office of some girl's house writing this at 8:15AM. My God. Last night was probably the most extrodinary experience I ever had in my life.

Last night was a party of a college friend, so the drive was kind of far and there's a solid group of HBs that I'm close with. Mind you, they are only my pivots and honest-to-God LJBF zoned, it's mutual. Anyways, one HB that I had no attraction for, same goes for her was maybe a 6.5 since the last time I saw her.
I see her for the first time and I swear her tits got bigger, she was tanner, lost 15 pounds and was super fine. 8.5. I'm staring at her legs as I write this and it's so hot. I think I just creamed my pants.

So get this, things were normal, everything is fine we are all having a good time. We isolate from the party into a room to smoke a cigarette, they were japanese so I didn't want to share with anyone. That's it.

We lie in the bed and just ash wherever, not my place or hers so who really cares. Anyways It's dim, and we cuddle, it's just what we do, I do this with all the HBs in my social group and there's nothing to it. Then I go fuck it. Let's run some game.

She was close to me and I could feel her body move when she breathed, so I mirrored it. This went on for about 5 minutes. Then I had my arm around her and I started using IN10SE's whole speed rapport dealio and started touching her with sexual intent and all that. Check out that book I never knew this shit actually worked but it does and I reccomend it or kino escalation.

So I start playing with her stomach (we're spooning), using all the intent mumbo jumbo and running escalation and she turns her head and looks at me. I go, oh lovely, I'm going to into the soul gazing routine. So I stare the bitch down with more sexual intent and started creating a sexual SPAM. I'm no believer in all that energy shit but I guess it really does work. Keep in mind no words were said, AT ALL.

She literally puts her nose on mine, and just keeps looking into my eyes. I was just thinking this is all norm since it happens all the time. Then her lips literally are an inch from me. Then I just pull the trigger and say fuck, then we kiss, make out, kino, kino, kino, boobies, boobies, thigh on vagina (props to Ace), then I get down there with my finger's and it is FUCKING SEEPING WET. I rub it for a while then pulls the fucking LMR.

"We shouldn't be doing this, we are friends". I'm like what the fuck? Am I getting LMR'd? Really? So I respond with a "I do what I want and you should too". More boobies, boobies, kino escalation again. MORE LMR.

I get frustrated at this point so I pulled a Mystery and just started rubbing my cock in front of her and she started sucking me off. Now I go, ah, here we go. Then I go down to her pussy again and the panties are like, soaked. I'm suprised she didn't change this morning I bet she has like fermentation going on down there. But guess what, MORE FUCKING LMR.

Note: She's a virgin and wants to lose it someone special but that shouldn't stop her from getting fingered. Maybe she was afraid of feeling awsome fucking pleasure and losing it to me, but regardless I'm very confused.

Then, I did more kino, her friends walk in looking for her, drama-talk happens about the party, I just end up going to sleep, and I wake up and she's right next to me. The hell just happened. Any LMR destroying tips would be greatly appreciated. BTW This just goes to show there is no such thing as LJBF.

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sorry for the poor grammar i had no contacts in this morning.

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My thoughts exactly.

Women are extremely sexual beings. They love sex so much that they would have it with any man who can provide that pleasure with minimal consequences. The "friend zone" is just an illusion created by woman to neutralize suitors that don't know what they're doing.

However, I create that illusion myself sometimes when I actually feel more comfortable with having a more friendly relationship with a girl rather than a sexual one. Admittedly with some girls I just don't feel that "spark" that makes me really want her in a sexual way, and that's OK. I'll just create an illusory "friend zone" and put her in it.

Freeze out is a solid tactic to destroy LMR. You can read it in The Game, or you can learn by doing.

When she throws up LMR twice or three times, shut down the whole scene. Turn the lights on, blow out the candles, break the physical contact. When she asks why, tell here that "No means no... it's not that I'm not attracted to you... and obviously you can tell how much you turn me on, I just don't want to do anything that you don't want to do."

Freezing her out from the physical intimacy, which she's enjoying as much as you are, punishes her LMR... it's a package deal, and if she wants the canoodling, she takes the finger with it.

Spot on. Have an HB8 friend who I just dont have any physical connection to. You gotta keep some of them at bay without being an AFC - neg her but NEVER kino if you're not willing to f or kiss-close.

wow sutko you just explained that better than ive ever read. Ive had some serious LMR issues in the past and read about the freeze out but didnt fully understand it until now, thanks!