Hi!

I'm really knowledgeable about woman and I've field tested many ideas that I've forgotten. I found myself distracted for a while and so I feel like I'm basically back where I started.

I think this shouldn't be only looked at as self improvement, but more of a sport. Before you crucify me, think about it. You have to be a bit of a womanizer, and apathetic to other humans in order to get a lot of woman. If we're getting women, then obviously some of them will fall for us. We only wanting to get laid and self improve will hurt their feeling when they find out their feelings aren't reciprocated.

Like the Weeknd Said in his new song, "I'm just trying to live for the moment, and all these motherfuckers want a real love." It doesn't rhyme but he get's what I mean, though he probably doesn't feel bad about hurting feelings.

The nice guy in me has a real problem with this dynamic since I don't like hurting the feelings of people who haven't done anything wrong to me.

I want to transform myself into a wolf with sharp fangs, but not a complete monster of a human being who cares about nothing other than himself.

I know it's possible to achieve this balance, but I haven't read anything on it. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it I suppose for now I need to obliterate this chump in me.

I got a sales job today, and I walked outside and said HI to 5 good looking women. I was very nervous at first. I hate having to go through this period again, and this is why I say this is a sport. If I step a way for a while I feel rusty and nervous until I get back in the swing of things. If this was something other than a trained skill like a sport then there wouldn't be any rust or anxiety.

For the next few days expect more Hi posts like this until those nerves go away, and then I'll start doing sets.

I want to film this stuff, does anyone know of any spycams that look like shirt pins, or headphones. I'll google it of course, but you may have some resource I don't know about. Nothing big or clunky, or easily spotted.

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Yesterday and today I said hi to 5 more women.

I've been reading and searching the forum like crazy.

Guys who offer advice including "forum leaders" often times are saying to do some really simple stuff that offer 50-50 chances to get what you want , and no one ever answers really complicated questions. I'm finding instead of asking for advice the best way to advance with this forum is to read field reports.

The detailed ones, guys are pretty much using the same tactics and techniques that work for them over and over again so I'm finding out what works in the field more than simple theory. Shit like "Just say HI"

Well I've said Hi to 15 women so far and guess what happens. Most smile and say hi back, some ignore me. That's pretty much it. Saying HI is not spitting game. It's just a friendly HI. But, it's good to get used to walking up and talking to strangers. I'll keep doing this until I've said hi to 100.

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"Keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HccL8jUIIWU - Adoration of the Magi Lupe Fiasco

The thing about most of us forum leaders is that we've learned it's not what you say, it's how you say it. I can tell you what I've said to women word for word, but it won't help you because you're not me. I approach women and I'm true to myself when I do it. You need to be true to yourself.

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Hey Jack, thanks for the response. I'm glad you're a mature person who can debate with someone, not hold a grudge and be willing to help them later.

Being true to myself is hard because a ton of the stuff from my environment tries to beat me down. Most people's self are what they are conditioned with.

I'm a black man in america, my family constantly tries to tear me down, and I've stopped talking to all of my old friends because they weren't on board with my interests in self development.

I'm my own support.

"Myself" would be a guy afraid of women, afraid to fight, and afraid to succeed in life, while trying to appease and get the approval of others. So I feel like changing for the better is the opposite of being myself, until the changes I make become my new habits.

So I've learned how to fight, I was talking to women before I got distracted and started back here at square one, I'm working hard to succeed financially, and I'm starting to feel like fuck everyone else opinions unless they present me with a well thought out argument that makes sense.

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"Keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HccL8jUIIWU - Adoration of the Magi Lupe Fiasco

Umm...remember when I said part of your problem is insecurity? It has been very obvious with so many of your other posts. The good thing here is that you're making an honest statement and you can fix those insecurities and stop making excuses. It starts with your belief system.

I'd recommend that you stay away from pickup books. Instead I'm going to recommend a book called "Thank You for Arguing" by Jay Heinrichs. Not that I think you need to learn how to argue, but instead learn how to get people on your side. This will help you with your family, friends, and in many aspects it will teach you how to relate to women(but that is not the purpose of the book).

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I got Jack's recommended book by the way.

I said Hi to 5 girls this morning, and I'm pretty much numb to the idea of walking up to strangers and saying Hi at this point. So my approach Anxiety is gone.

It only took 20, I thought it would take at least 100... Anyway, just for the purposes of seeing this through to the end I'm going to just keep saying HI until I hit 100.

Then I will move on to making the attempt of getting 1 number a day, while still saying HI in order to kill performance anxiety. So basically the next step is doing 1 set a day. Until all of my performance anxiety is dead, which will open me up to doing sets freely.

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"Keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HccL8jUIIWU - Adoration of the Magi Lupe Fiasco

I said hi to 5 more girls today and I feel absolutely nothing walking up and saying hi anymore.
Excellent. That was very easy. I'm still going to continue until I've hit 100 though in order to give myself time to practice what I'm going to say and do at home.

I've been visualizing and physically rehearsing going through kino stages when I see certain reactions elicited.

I first spend 15 minutes walking in large circles like how I walk down the street focusing on the right projection and getting my body used to standing a certain way.

At first my freaking back was hurting because it was weak due to my poor posture. Now it feels natural to walk and stand like this and I'm doing it automatically without thinking about it.

So then I walk up to a girl (vizually in my head, but performing the same action in real life by myself)

I never make a bee line for her I circle and hit her at an angle and talk over my shoulder to her.

I deliver my opening line. I've got a few simple ones, and initiate kino.

Then I practice injecting certain emotions into my voice. At this stage I'm going for light and teasing. I turn towards her after she faces me. and I time myself turning towards her turning away, and leaning back on my heals vs leaning forward to give positive cues. I'm just telling jokes and being silly outloud to get myself in that frame of mind, I'm not actually holding a conversation with myself or anything, but I visualize the woman there responding well to everything. Sometimes she will get cold and I'll respond with negative body language and she'll perk up a bit.
I practice escalating kino in thin air so when I do it in real life my body is used to the movement and it appears natural instead of forced.

When I hit a certain kino point I switch from light and teasing banter into more a more friendly personal air. I practice a few comfort building conversational techniques I've studied, and my tone has sincere, friendly emotion injected into it.

I practice bringing up topics that I then paint the picture of her and I doing together. Gambler calls this seeding dates.

I Practice holding more positive body language now than before.

After I feel like enough comfort is established via her body language and what not (this is an art I guess that will get better in field, for now I'm just imagining when I hit a certain kino check point she has enough comfort already), I switch my tone from friendly to sexual (not sleazy) and I begin artfully using pauses to create tension and putting a little more emphasis on words that could have sexual meaning if said in a different context. Words like wet, suck, fuck, hot, etc.
I start trying to transfer my sexual intent unto her and I start using kino that a friend wouldn't do.

I reach the point of kino where I try to move her so I go through a few lines of getting an instant date I read off here. Sometimes I get the instant date sometimes it's rejected. When it's rejected I go for a kiss close, weather or not it's rejected I then go for the number.
If she moves with the instant date I practice escalating further to a kiss and extracting her to a sex location using a few lines from here. I get my lines mainly from reading field reports.

If the extraction doesn't work I do another kiss close and then number close

If the extraction does work:

It doesn't matter if I'm in a club, the mall, or on the street, I see myself in a taxi with the girl doing kino and talking, or getting a kiss here and there until I get to my house where I perform closing kino.

I physically practice all kino while I visualize.

I'll need to come up with something for a restaurant-bar like environment.

I'm just focusing on a one set for this practice. After I get this down I'll do a 2 set and group dynamics practice.

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"Keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HccL8jUIIWU - Adoration of the Magi Lupe Fiasco

I practice the "routine" for 45 minutes after the 15 minute body language walk for a total of an hour's worth of practice.

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"Keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HccL8jUIIWU - Adoration of the Magi Lupe Fiasco

I did my say hi to 5 women thing again yesterday. I'm getting really anxious to start trying out the stuff I've been practicing. I want to do it badly at this point because saying hi isn't enough. I'll stick to my pan though until I've said hello to 100.

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"Keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HccL8jUIIWU - Adoration of the Magi Lupe Fiasco