So me and my cousins decided to throw a pool party last sunday. We actually throw very good parties and people always love them. Anyway, there was this one girl who showed up to the party with a friend of mine (she didn´t know anyone at the party besides my friend) he introduced her to me and we turned out to have some things in common (rock cllimbing), and I thought she was hot. In other words, she was now completely on my sight (especially after my friend told me he was completely fine with me hitting on her)
I did the usual, just talking with her having fun, kino escalation, isolation and started kissing her. I eventually isolated her even more by taking her to the golf course (right in front of my house). We were making out right in the middle of the field, she was on top of me. So at this point, I decided it was time to go to my bedroom (didn´t have condoms with me otherwise I would have tried to have sex right then, how awesome would that be??? lol).
So we go back to the party and I say I need to go to the bathroom, she says she does to (as expected). I lie and I say the line for the bathroom is to long and say I will take her to the VIP bathroom, which is conveniently located in my room.
I think we didn´t even go to the bathroom. We started making out in my bed. When I tried grabbing her boobs she stops me, i go again and she stops me again. I tell her she is too inconfident about it, and she tells me "people always say this to me" (she actually mentioned this a couple of times, is this some kind of shit test? anyway, I ignored) I eventually passed the boobs barrier and claimed it my territory.
It is now pussy time, I start rubbing her from outside her leggins and stops me. I did it a couple times withno good response. And I know she was really feeling it through the thin leggins. I asked herif she was a virgin and she said yes. I actually think she was saying the truth, but maybe it was all a shit test. How do you handle girls who legitimately are virgins? or girls that claim to be virgins but are not?
I tried stopping the makeout and laying back for a while. she asked me if I was mad at her. I just said I wasn´t but i´m not sure that is the best answer to that shit test.
She did get more turned on after the pause but still wasn't enough. She then had to leave (turns out her grandparents live three houses from mine so it was a convenient pick up)
So yeah, after this I had some massive blue balls.
Please give me some feedback on how you think I should have handled this, especially the virgin part.

I personally never get LMR b/c I don't push the girl. I tease her and make her want it. A lot of girls have a barrier for the first fool around session, and I just respect that. Honestly just be okay with the fooling around but no penetration, number close, be chill, hang out and have fun, and she'll eventually want to do it.

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Not a bad job all & all. LMR is all it was and you were handling it correctly.

Rinse repeat.

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You're dealing with a possible virgin and a situation where you're trying to bang her the same night that you met her. It's an uphill battle and you did a good job.

My two cents:

1. I stop escalating way before you did. After she denies me the boobs twice, I'll have a pause.

2. I give a good reason for my pause. I'll bring up something like "I need a drink, you want anything?" or if we've been drinking a bit "I need some water, all I taste is tequilla, you want some?" There is no anger, no pouty emotions.

3. More inexperienced girls will ask "are you mad?" , "is everything ok?" My answer might go against what is standard advice in the PUA community, but it's cause I just am at a point where I don't like pushing too far against LMR, and I feel like my approach is more likely to get a girl to come back and screw on another day or set up an on going sex buddies scenerio.

4. I respond with something like "Trust me, it's all good ok? I think we obviously both want this right now but you need some time to process it. I'm doing fine either way." This puts in her head "Oh yea, I do want this right now" and lets her know you aren't going to push her into anything she doesn't want to do. It makes you more trusting.

5. If she keeps harping on this I like to say something like "well I'd love to just throw you down and have my way with you, but you seem alittle too innocent for that". Calling a girl innocent is hilarious because as soon as the girl hears it it's like a switch goes off and she thinks "how dare he call me innocent, I'll show him!" It's either that she wants to prove you wrong, or she thinks "well I can have sex with him cause he thinks im innocent and won't think I'm a slut." Either way, it works. And it's a common thing I'll say to girls, even before we get in to the bedroom. I don't say it to obviously experienced women though. If you're dealing with a 25 year old party girl who's had a number of FWB and one night stands, she might think you're just stupid for judging her so wrongly.

You've gotten some solid advice so far in this thread.

Here are my thoughts:

First, although you had this girl on the golf course and making out and such, you could have been escalating WAYYYY harder throughout the entire interaction. Escalation begins the moment a girl gives you a sign she's into you. Dirty talk, manhandling her, throwing her into walls, pinning her hands behind her and biting her neck are all great ideas.

I know a lot of gurus and other assorted shitheads claim that you shouldn't escalate too hard in public or too early or before you get her back to your bedroom. Those guys are morons. They get a lot of resistance. I promise you that. Because if you've escalated hard enough, and literally told a girl that you cannot wait to get her back to your bedroom because you want to do all sorts of dirty things to her... well she's going to know what's about to happen when you get her back to your bedroom because you just told her. If she's there, she's very unlikely to be resisting.

Resistance comes up when the girl is not properly turned on. When she's thinking too logically and not letting her desire to get FUCKED ROTTEN take over her actions. There's a beautiful thing that happens when you've gotten a girl really horny - she will become the aggressor or will literally do everything you tell her to. It's quite lovely.

Learn to escalate and turn a girl on with tons of dirty talk, push/pull, rough & physical escalation, and you'll rarely hit any resistance ever again.

That said, a few specific instances you could have improved once you were back in the bedroom are as follows:

1) When she shot down your boob grabbing... "I tell her she is too inconfident about it." NO NO NO NO. Never again dude. This is the opposite of good game. By bringing this up all you do is cause her to think about her own insecurities. This does not get her turned on and remember what i just said above? Your only mission is getting her so turned on she can only think about having you plow her. In this situation, a great move is to simply play the "uncontrollable beast" card. Simply say something like "I know, I know... I'm sorry, but I'm just so turned on by you I can't help myself." While you do this (whispering it into her ear with seductive tones), you should probably be pulling her head by the back of her hair or some other such dominant and aggressive move. It sends mixed signals and she'll immediately get horny.

2) When you got to the puss rubbing and she told you she was a virgin... first, as others have said, if there are rules that she has, you have to respect them. No amount of game will get through a girl's rules. I don't care if you are a SUPER GURU PUA 9000 LEVEL MASTER, you will not bang a virgin that wants to remain a virgin. That said, when I heard that, I probably would have rubbed my boner against her thigh and said something like "Oh, so I guess that means you have no idea how good it would feel to have my hard cock inside you. [PAUSE, BITE NECK, BREATHE HARD, ETC...] Well let me tell you.. It would feel amazing." Again, you should be in her ear while choking her (or some other dominant move) in this situation. I'd try that a few times, pulling back and just being cool and genuine if she still resists before trying again. If after a couple tries, she's still not game, I'll just tell her it's cool and be a normal, nice person who doesn't GET ALL BUTT HURT BECAUSE A GIRL WON'T FUCK.

And always, always, always say AND MORE IMPORTANTLY MEAN the following statement whenever you get a big bit of resistance like this: "Don't worry, I would never make you do anything you didn't want to do." Live by that rule. It makes you a good person and interestingly enough, simply by abiding by it, most girls will let you do whatever you want to them