Street game in Bristol with I.I. Sunday afternoon. Great weather!
Note: Was sarging on the Saturday night also, but found that when a rugby and football match is on, on the same day, it turns into a cock fest and if you don’t already have a chick on your arm, it’s difficult to get into some places (mixed sets only). Not the best night, although did complete some venue changing, and plenty of approaches.

Day game, opened 4 girls (plus perhaps a couple of others) in the space of a couple of others walking around the town centre area. Manchester chick-Street HB7, Rose big tits-Street HB6.5, Grace-Park HB8, Physio-H&M HB 7.
Each of the approaches was cold and chased down apart from Grace-Park, which was ‘approach and sit on the bench next to her’. Each of these opens resulted in a boyfriend or fiancée being brought up at some stage (generally when I started to show a male-to-female interest). To which I ceased to follow through on the #close, and the interaction slowly died out.

It was probably something to do with the time of day, in that there was some football matches on, but that’s the first time I’ve had 4 consecutive ‘I’ve got a BF’ like that.
I remembered that I made some notes a while ago on BF/Husband situations, so I’ve dug them out and thought that I may be able to add to them with the opinions/guidance of other Artists. One main lesson is to revisit my old material more often so I don’t make the same mistakes over and again!!


********************BF/Husband situation.*******************
On many occasions the interaction has been going well until a girl has announced that she either has a bf or a husband. When these occasions arise they need dealt with in a way that is beneficial to the interaction and the goals from that interaction.

Remember firstly that just because the HB says that she has a bf doesn’t mean that she does! She could be lying in an attempt to test your perseverance/Alpha skills; she may have a bf that she is not happy with but mentions it out of habit; she may be in a situation where she would rather stay with a guy who was not completely compatible then upgrade when a better guy comes along, than to have no bf at all; it may just be a test to see how you will react.

Generally, the # close is the test w/ these attached chicks. Try to get the #/e-mail by all means, even if they (verbally) resist on grounds of being attached. If they are interested in you they give you the contact info. BF/Husband once you have them hooked will only be mentioned as a logistical nuisance to you 2 getting something together.

How do you deal with:
• I have a bf/husband....???

Would be great if we could get a little more info on the openers dude, like maybe there's something in there that's flagging up the boyfriend response.

Incidentally though, when that situation arises again, I'd suggest trying the approach of "that's cool, does he have a problem with you making new friends?" maybe not in those words but you know. Or if you are going for the #-close by arranging a day 2 at the same time, for example: "I'm going to blah blah blah on Saturday, you should come along, what's your number?", "Sorry I have a boyfriend", "Cool bring him too! More the merrier."

Whether she has a boyfriend or not you can still get a number, a number is innocent. And if she still persists with the "I don't think he'd like me making guy friends" then it's the case of "Well he should have a little more faith in you that you aren't gonna sleep around just because you are friends with a guy" or something to that effect.

That's just my opinions anyway man, crack on!

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Musterion's Journal

Musterion thanks for the response. I'll try my best to describe my openers and see if it reveals anything.

I always run the target down, closing her down by getting in front of her, but at a comfortable distance so I’m not too frightening (apart from the park girl - where I just sat down on the other side of the bench).

My openers are loosely like, or derivatives of "hey i was walking by with my friend and I noticed that you have a really nice jacket on, can you tell me where you got if from I want to buy my sister one" , "Hey, sorry to startle you like that (if they jump when i open), I just ran over from the other side of the road to talk to you because I thought, that girl looks really interesting and I need to stop her..." Generally I will use compliment openers on clothes, look, or style. Followed by small talk, intro, small talk, logistics, small talk, male to female interest, then this is the point in which the bf or fiancé is mentioned.

I am quite open about fancying them, and I will generally do some explaining as to it being a little weird that I just stopped them in the street, but it was my interest that got the better.

I might try playing with the structure a bit... I mean do you transmit an interest directly during a five minute street interaction??

I generally feel like I need a reason for stopping a chick in the street, which i guess is what direct is all about. A wing of mine will often use direction openers, but i find that the target can ramble on for 5 minutes to give you directions and all the while the interaction is going nowhere..!
Eltino - Bristol

This is the red flag for me. Once you've stopped them and stated your intent, saying that it's weird you stopped them is gonna make it weird. If you just plough on though and act as though it's NOT weird, I think that'll be much better.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not as clued up on day game as I am with night game by any means, but to me this whole explaining that it's weird thing just seems like a non-necessity that is gonna do nothing more than make it more awkward.

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Musterion's Journal

In the daytime Direct works! Trust me. Compliments are fine as long as you don't sound like some gay metrosexual guy. Sometimes I will say to a woman "I love your hair/jacket" but I show with my eyes and my non verbals I am genuine.

Something I say also is "Excuse me but I just noticed you...(pause) and had to say...you look really amazing" And if she does try to walk off I will say "I haven't finished yet"

The daytime is the best time to show your intent because not many guys do this.

Musterion,
I was out last Saturday in Bristol, running night game with some wings, in both pubs/bars on and on the street, and come across the "i've got a bf" a couple of times!

This time I used a few similar things to those you suggested, playing with them, making out that I didn't really care about a bf, that he would only be an obstacle to us getting together. This felt more natural and made the interaction less serious because when stating, "well he can have you Mon-Thurs, and I can have you Fri-Sun" it usually gets a laugh and makes it fun. From there I was able to side step the shield instead of walking straight into it, then continue with more comfort building.

Didn't get any #closes this night-approach, but it's tried and tested, and hopefully i'll not find it an obstacle anymore.

Cheers. Eltino.

Tony77,
cheers man it's good to hear that. You're right not many people will do it, that's why I thought it was necessary to say "this may be weird to you but...", now I realise, that because I don't do street game enough, it's not actually weird for them, it's weird for me!!, and I’ve been transmitting that to the target...

This is a lifestyle choice for me, and will not be weird once i've nailed it. Therefore, when I approach from now, and in order to make the chick more comfortable, I will ignore the fact that I’m challenging myself, and plough through the anxiety, and make this type of thing 'normal' to me.
If I can transmit the normality of making an approach during the day, the whole interaction will feel more spontaneous, which i think will put the target in a better frame and less likely to throw out obstacles.

I guess it's a self-fulfilling loop, if I can transmit relaxation and natural style, she's less likely to feel weird and throw obstacles up, therefore I won't have to overcome them.
Let's put it to the test! Eltino