I just want to apologize in advance for my english and that this text got bigger than i expected..


SPAM i'm reading The Game, i have looked around in the forum, and found some good openers and closes. I have read some about womens body language (for example how she's looks at you, where she's scratching and what that means and so on).

So, 2 days ago my friend invited me to his student party where all gets to known eachother before the school start:

So i decided to go there and try out some things i've learned here.
But I was not prepared at all. I just wanted to try the natural game, my own "mission" was to use my eyes more often, and study the body language.

So when i just arrived, i called my friend and he came out to meet me.
So the first thing i remembered was to: Smile and high chin (shows confidence).
We went outside where everybody smoked, 4 girls 2 dudes. He started to talk to everybody and i just realized that i don't want to be an outsider, so i said:

- Dude, introduce me for everyone. *Then i smiled*

So he did it and i hand-shaked with everybody there.

So i got all excited and started to talk to everybody. And everytime i talked to the girls i had eye-contact. One of them actually looked down when she talked to me sometimes (guess she was shy or something?).
The suddenly my friend said that he would soon be back and told me to wait for him there. And when he left, suddenly i realised that everybody was talking in a circle (without me in it).
So instead of leaving, i grabbed two girls (which was the hottest and talked most of all) in the waist from behind and pushed me in to the circle.

Then they suddenly grabbed me both over the neck and one of them tried to jump on me and said "hold me up" and laughed. Now all attention was on me and the girls (success?).
Then i got a message from my friend when he said "The bar i open now". So i told everybody that it was time to go to the bar and everybody followed me.

So when we got in i started to mingle a bit with other people and eventualy found my friend.
After a while i went outside again with some dude i met inside, and we started to talk to some people (by then i haven't seen my friend for over an hour).

Then he started to talk to some girls (2set). He talked to one of them so i started to talk to the other one. Then i realised that she was kinda hot. So I sat down next to her and we started to talk.
She laughed alot, constant eye contact, smiled alot, and i tried not to talk to much about myself. (All this was natural, i didn't use any openers that i've learned from here.)

Then i said that it was time for some dancing, so everybody went inside and straight to the bar (?). So we switched and i started to chat with the other one. We talked about regular stuff, but we talked kinda flirty all the time, but after like 10min she just turned around (with her whole body) and was starting to look at her friend (bad sign......), so instead of being a total loser, i told her that we can move on to the other set. Then they started to chat and i tried to SHOW her that i ignored her by talking to everbody else except for her (i don't think she got it).
---- I did it because of Mysterys theory that you should punish the girl when she does that ----- But i dont think it worked..

Anyway we went to the dance floor and danced. The girls only danced with each other (the other dude was with us to) and it was realy lame but i tried to make them dance with me but it didn't worked so well. So i just walked away to find another set (i actualy came back after like 5min, and i now realized that i shouldn't -- But then i walked away again).

Then i found my friend again and we went outside to get some fresh air.
And there i met one of the girls that wanted me to -hold her up-. And she was like - I know you, you are Max! And smiled like flirty.
But she was kinda drunk, so we ended up in a set of 4 (with me and my friend included). Then she was comparing my abs with hers. And wanted me to hit her in the stomach (to prove that her abs was strong) I was like WTF!?
The she was like:

She - HIT ME!
Me: uhm, no it's cool (and i laughed)

*now she hits me in the stomach* It actualy hurted a bit.

She - I said HIT ME!!!

Then i got an idea! This could be an opportunity for Kino.
So i hit her *trying to make it beliveble but not hard at all*

Well.. It was still hard for her. But she was like:

She - I'm okay, I'm okay, it's cool it just hurted a little bit. Don't worry. You know what, i liked it!

Well i was kind of chocked because i realized how that looked from other perspectives.
Then i apologized like 3 times and she said it was okay and grabbed me on my shoulder (IOI). Then i aksed her if it was cool. And hugged her and she hugged me for like 4sec (IOI?).

Then we moved on to some stairs where everybody was sitting.


Btw, i have to edit that she was with this very tall guy all the time, riding his back alot, (like a best friend or something). He looked like he got a big friend-zone-stamp on his forhead.
Anyway she was sitting on his knees. And we started to talk about a anime-series that called One Piece. Luckily i know what it is and i realy like it. So we started to talk about manga, generally. Then all of sudden she says to her friend (the tall guy).


She - You know what? Max is pretty handsome (IOI)! Then after i smiled at her (eye contact), she said but not as handsome as i am!
(I actualy said -right back at you-, but i don't remember when i said it)

Then she invited me for a manga marathon the next day. Now i got all the signals i needed. It was time for a number-close!
BAAM! I cockblocker came buy.. It was a chick that started to talk to the tall guy and said to him something about:

- You give a bad example for everyone, and there is zero tolerance between new students and "old students" during kickup/startup
(i don't know the right word in english for it - But in other words; Everytime new students comes to university in Sweden, they have "elders" that are making partys for the new ones, but in the beggining of the get-to-know-eachother-partys there are always zero tolerance when it comes to hitting on eachother, new students can hit on eachother, but not student and elder).

Well after that some freaking drama broke through and the girl started to cry, and everybody started to talk seriously and stuff. So.. i was like fuck this i don't want to be a part of this and walked away (i was hopping to come back and get her number later when everything got stabilized again)

15min later everybody was gone, and i couldn't find her..


So after that i was standing alone for a while and thinking about what i could have done better. Then suddenly i got an eyecontact with a hottie (HB8-9), so she came to me.
I got back my good mood and we started to chat.
I had eyecontact with her and smiled alot and we had a good conversation. Then i noticed that she started to scratch her hand (then i remembered from a video where Mystery showed places a women cratches when she starting to feel attraction -- Hand, shoulder and the cheek -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muCUvxxVNsM )
She also started to fix her hair and i was so happy that i actualy recognized something from what i've learned.
Then we talked about something that i don't realy remember, but it was somethin like:

Me - Oh, how come?
She - haha, no it's actually because my boyfriend wanted me to blablabla...

Well she have a BOYFRIEND! And i was like realy confused after she said that. We talk for like 3 more minutes and then she suddenly turned her whole body to the direction she came from and started to look for somebody/something. So.. once again.. to not be a total loser, i said to her - Lets go to them!
Then i saw that my friend was standing in that set, and i started to talk to him.

After a while we went down (where the entrance is). And there i saw the girls i talked and danced with earlier that night. They were putting on their jackets. So i said.

Me - Are you already leaving :O ??
She (the one i liked most) - yea, it's getting kinda late.

Then i realy wanted to do a number-close, but i kinda freezed and didn't do it. So i just said, - it was realy nice to meet you!- And gave her a hug..

After like 30min, we decided to go home too.





That's my first day. I did some improvement, with the eye-contact, notice the body-language, don't talk to much and let the girl talk and try to be the one to get the most attention in a set. But still i realy wish i had some routines to follow in the situations i got lost in..

Edit: Most students actually tought i was from their class, so that might be the reason why the HB8 came to me.




That's all from me! What do you think? What should i've done/not done?

If that was your first night out, it was a great one! You pushed yourself and had fun! Great!

A few comments:

The mystery method states that you should talk to others and ignore her, well that is when you are still all in one set and she has realized how cool you are, otherwise it doesnt work like that. What it does is show a willingness to walk away and it is even more powerful.

You punched her in the stomach, she asked for it and liked it, great! Save that knowledge for later, she basically told you that she likes strong men who can be dominant while she is submissive, gold.

You could have numberclosed, you just need to make her think that it was her idea and do it in a sneaky way. Have you ever seen Kung-Fu Panda? That film has great lines for PU, really. In the beginning during his dream sequence Monkey says to him out of the corner of his mouth "We should hang." and he responds "agreed". "We should hang" is a great way of telling her to give you her number. It is not begging and it doesnt ask for anything, it is a statement, no BS, that is how it is, now it is her responsability to give you enough to keep the connection going. Like providing you with contact information.

I think you were doing great man!

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Okay thank you for the support When should i have numberclosed? I Guess erlier?
And about the Mysterys theory, how do i show that i am about do go? Should i look around alot? Or should i point my body in some other direction?

And i'm still curious abut the last girl that had a boyfriend. What does those signs means (scratching and hair fixing) when she mentioned her boyfriend..?

You should always stay in at least a few minutes after your numberclose. When you fel llike youre in, you tell her to hang out.

The best way to show a willingness to walk away is to do talk to some others, while she is there. Include her but dont make her the most important person there, talk to the others and maybe do some bodyrocking.

A sectret is to watch her feet. They will point in the direction of what she really wants, same with you, you can use that to fake not being interested.

Those signs were IOIs. The fact that she mentioned her BF doesnt really mean anything. It just means that the old dogma about couples and the only one for me and stuff is outdated. Nowadays people know that you can be with someone and still be attracted to a lot of other people, they just dont wanna see it because it is scary, so they rather not think about it and keep believing what they are supposed to believe.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Thanks for the advice! Especially about the feet, i will definitely use that one!

Oh, i forgot to mention. The girl with a boyfriend, after that i talked to her, i saw her in the dance floor like 10min later. I was just passing by and thought - why not just give it another try. So i walked pass her, and she looked at me and smiled (maybe it was just a friendly smile), well i stopped and started to dance with her, but after like 5 sec she was dancing away from me and got up the the big stage where some other ppl were dancing. I guess that was a very bad sign? Well before she even came up to the stage i had already walked away by then.

I actualy have a theory, i THINK that after she started to talk with me, she felt some connection and interest (well she gave me some IOIs). And she got scared of those feelings because she have a boyfriend and tried to deny it, that's why she impulsively turned around?
- Any toughts?

Yes, that is possible. Regarding friendly smile, there are no friendly smiles unless you are friends.

Until you know if someone is a friend or not, it is just an undefined smile.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

I would also like to add that you should watch Wedding Crashers. Even if you've seen it before, watching it from a PUA point of view really changes the movie and you can get a lot out of it. Keep up the good work!

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Maybe the friendly smile was because she thought that i was her classmate and wanted to get to know me (like she did with everybody else?). Or is it still classified as an undefined smile?
Interesting. I will watch it again.
Is there any part of the film that you wanted me to focus on? Something that will answer my question on how i should have been that night? Or are you just refering me to watch it to get inspiration?

It still counts as an undefined smile.

A Friendly smile is something that says, yeah, I just want us to be friends.

A More than friendly smile says, yes Im interested.

An Undefined smile says, I dont have any negative feelings to you, lets see where this is going.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Okay i see, thank you for the enlightenment
I will actualy go to a student bar near the same place (i heard those who were at the party will be there).

Any suggestions how i should be? Some people maybe remember me. (if i'm lucky)

What student bar would that be? Youre in Stockholm so I guess I know my way around most of them.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

I don't remember the name. But it's the one in SU (Stockholms Universitet) on the subway station Universitetet. I think there is only one bar there :O

There are very many pubs on the campus, each section of the university has one.

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bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Oh, didn't know that :O
But it's the one on the left when you look at the large grass field

Greens villa.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn