My Background
Most average and frustrated chump ever. I'm not a foreveraloner, but I am just so cripplingly shy. I hate it. Never approached a girl in my life ever. But I am determined to end those days.
-Researched some PUA stuff few years ago
-Got girlfriend, never tried any of it
-Recently broke up
-Research PUA again HARD for the last few weeks
-Tried openers on friends and stuff
-Started smiling more and making eye contact with people
-Made friends with people I've seen in the gym for years
-Feeling better
-Went on my first sarge last night.

My Goal for the night was to open ONE set. Just one. That's all. I sat with my friends at the bar for a while, scoping out the place and started getting nervous; unsure if I'd be able to suck it up and do it.

-Eventually I go to the toilet. As I'm heading back to the stairs to join my friends on the upper level there's this pretty blonde girl standing at the bottom (I guess waiting for her friends).
-As I'm walking towards her I think to myself "I could open her? should I do it? Am I---" and then I was next to her. I must have JUST made the the time limit for the 3 second rule. I didn't think, I just started talking...

Me: "Hey, I need to get back to my friends, but we were having a discussion and I need your opinion. Is kissing cheating?"
Her: "Yeah!"
Me: "Alright, but what if the girl in the relationship kisses another girl? Is that still cheating?"
Her: "Yeah, I think it is.."
**At this point her friend comes up to us**
Friend: "Do you know him?"
Me: "Nah, I was just getting her opinion on something my friends were discussing. Do you think a girl kisses another girl, it's cheating?"
Her Friend: "Yeah! It's physical contact, it's cheating!"
Me: "Yeah, I agree. I don't even think kissing needs to be physical."
Them: "Yeah!"
**I go to turn and walk back up the stairs away from them**
Me: "Hey.. are you guys best friends?"
Her: "Yeeaaah, we're pretty good friends.. We haven't known each other long."
Me: "I can tell you if you'll become best friends. Did you want to do the ebst friend test?"
Them: "Yeah!"
**I run the best friends test on them. Explain how they looked at each other first which means blahblahblah**
Friend: "Oh my god, you have like a sixth sense!"
**Girl I initially approached was just smiling like she was super impressed**
**At that point the friend started touching my shoulder**
Me: "Alright girls I have to get back, have a good night."
**Smile and walk upstairs**

Okay, looking back I can see a few things I want to change but also things I'm stoked with.
-non-threatening, smiling approach
-spoke confidently and sounded sincere (it was, I can relate to the opner)
-used a time constraint
-disarmed potential cock block

Things I would have changed:
-Maybe a relocation for the best friends test
-I wish after the best friend test I said something like "That's nothing, I can tell you everything there is to know about you in 5 minutes." and transitioned in the cube routine. I also could have put a neg in there.
-I wish I pushed further until I closed or fucked up.


The power I felt after this was amazing. Apart from bailing early, it went so smooth. I felt amazing, like I had conquered my biggest fear. I went straight upstairs and opened another 1 set but I won't bother going into that. I also opened a third set later that night where I kiiiiind of got rejected. But it didn't phase me!

In one night I got over my AA and got rejected--it wasn't that bad.

I'm super motivated to go sarging again ASAP. My goal is to open minimum 10 sets and go to close or failure.

So please, gurus. Teach me! What could I have done better or different? If you've read this far, thank you!

Wow man, nicely done! Im not in the game long enough to hand out advice, but it sounded like you handled it great! I think the confidence boost that your set gave you is invaluable and will count in your favour for your next set. Dont get too depressed about not taking it farther, there will be plenty of sets coming in the future for you to push your limits in! Nice!

Very well done there for first try, only thing I personally would have done different is gone.

"You two seem pretty cool, I would love to have another conversation with you both sometime any chance I could add you both on facebook/to my phone?" (or something along those lines)

if they say no (which I doubt they would have at this stage from what I have read) just go with a smile on your face, "no worries, see ya"

If they say yes get one of the numbers then just go "Ill text you sometime" then if feeling like trying for a bit more simply point to your cheek and go "Kiss goodbye?" if one of them does give a cheeky wink and smile and walk off, if they shake their heads just laugh, go "maybe another time then" and walk off.

Just always remember any negative response they give is funny and a source of entertainment to you and always smile when you walk away.

OR... If you really want to push yourself, next time invite them back to your group of mates, but dont ask them for their names, if they say no just go "I understand, maybe another time" if they say yes, just turn around offering one or both of your hands for them to take a hold of and just walk back to your mates, if they do take your hand dont hold it too tight so they can pull away if they start to feel uncomfortable. Then when you get to your mates just simply shout out "Hey look who I met" and walk straight through middle of your mates letting their hands go and start talking to one of your mates, hopefully one of your mates will say hello and start chatting to them (its a standard reaction). After 5-10 mins can suggest bouncing to another venue as one big group.

That entire last paragraph basically escalates Kino, creates DHV and will make them more comfortable around you and your friends because they approached your group not the other way around.

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awesome first sarge! defo could've asked for numbers though

Everything MagicM said is also awesome haha.

I have literally done the same thing to varying degrees of success best ending in Kiss closes.

I would have tried for their number/s and or names, but still left early so you can run into them later and use some call back humour. also i dont know any other good routines haha

Good job! Really inspiring read. Too bad i can't come up with any feedback - i'm just starting with this stuff myself.

Thanks for the feedback, guys. I had no idea I had replies; I only just saw them.

I've continued my PUA studies and now know HEAPS of things I could have done. When one of them said I had a sixth sense after the best friend test I could have said:
-"Do you believe in that stuff?" --> think of a number between 1 and 10 DHV
-"That's nothing.. I've gotta get back to my friends but check this out" --> false time constraint, relocate to a seated area and run the cube.
-"So how do you two know each other?" --> search for conversation hooks
-"So are you guys cool?" --> they'll start qualifying themselves.
-When the friend touched my shoulder --> "Hey, we only just met, let's slow this down" IOD
-To the friend --> "I can read palms too." (read palm, get laughs) "So, me and your friend like each other, is that okay?"

Heaps!! I keep replaying it over in my head. I now know where I got to. I opened, got them attracted to me and had them wanting me to stay, but I bailed early because I had met my goal. I'm going out this weekend, my goal is to push until I blow out or close.

Did you guys want to hear about my second approach that night? It was straight after this one. I walked away from the friends, upstairs and went to the first girl I saw.

When she said that you have a sixth sense, maybe you could have said:
"That's actually my seventh sense. Wanna see my sixth sense?" and do the ESP test?

And please, tell us about the second approach too!

The ESP test in the guess 1-10 right? If not, tell me!

Second approach was a write-off. I went upstairs CHARGING after the first set, felt like a million bucks. I went up to a girl who was by herself on the dance floor and ran the same opener (FTC "is kissing cheating?").
She WRAPS her arms around me and is like "Nooo baby noo it's not cheating! Oh my god you're so nice to hug, ohh she didn't cheat on you!"
I reply (while she's hugging me); "No, no. It wasn't me, it was my friend. How many drinks have you had?"
She lets go of me: "Only six!"
"Ohh okay then.."
She hugs me again; "Oh my god you're so beautiful! And so nice to hug!"
I'm sort of laughing and considering going for a kiss close ("Are you spontaneous?" "From 1-10 how good of a kisser are you?") but I decided I didn't want to be a scum bag and kiss a random drink (and possible stoned) girl.
Right after she starts hugging me again her friend comes up and tells her that they're leaving (she came from the stairs--so she would have come back to the venue to find her). I ask the friend if she think it's cheating, she says no as she drags the friend downstairs and they leave.

I think I did well in this one too. I don't think I was getting blown out; the girls were actually leaving.

I think you did good, also, the story made me smile.

Yeah, that's the ESP test. I'm planning to try it this way:

Tell the girl you want to show her a cool trick
If shes okay with that, tell her to imagine a blackboard
Then tell her to draw the first number that gets in her mind from 1-4 (most people think of 3).
Take her hands and look into her eyes.
"read her mind"
Tell her that you can see the same blackboard, and that the number written on it is 3.
You got it right or not, now try it again with 1-10:
Tell her to wipe off the old number from her blackboard, and to write a number from 1-10 (should be 7).
Do the same "mind reading" routine.
If you get both right, you could tell her that we seem to have a special connection, or whatever you get in mind.
If you get both wrong, you could tell her something like: You're the first person ever i couldn't read. You're going to mean trouble. I'm not sure if i can stay around you anymore.

Probably need to do some fine-tuning on that one.

I've been field testing the esp test and I think a better contingency plan for getting it wrong would be something like;
"do you believe in that esp stuff?"
"i don't know"
"Pick a number between 1 and 10"
"ok"
"7"
"no"
"3"
"no"
"6"
"no"
"i guess esp is bullshit"
And they start laughing. It would only work once attraction has been built. Making them laugh will still work as a dhv. You look more like a fun guy rather than a failed psychic.

Thoughts?