First weekend "sarging" with my usual wingman



Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests
Post new topic Reply to topic   Board index » Real Life Gaming » Field Reports




Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:28 am 
Offline
Member of MPUA Forum
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:12 pm
Posts: 146
Location: St. Louis
Friday night I laid out the plan. We had 5 bars on our schedule, followed by a trip to Denny's at 3am when the last of the bars closed. We made our plan not to close any girls, but rather to visit all the venues on our list and open as many sets as possible.

We agreed that I was to open a set right when we talk into Bar1 with, (shoulder kino) "Hey. Pretend like we're talking for a minute, we're trying to hide from this girl." (gesture at door). We also agreed on a few codes we could use to communicate the need to exit, and with what urgency. "Don't we need to meet Matt?" Meant we needed to move on to the next bar, and doubles as a real time constraint. "Hey, Emily just called." Meant that angry boyfriends were headed for us, or some other form of disaster. It is intentional that it sounds like we are about to go meet some other girls in case we need to calm down an angry guy.

We didn't go overboard on the peacocking. I was dressed in a plain gray gap thermal, black belt, dark blue whiskered jeans, and polished black "going out" shoes like every other guy wears. I usually don't wear those shoes but decided to change it up today. I forgot what my wing was wearing.

Bar1: A large sports bar. We enter, walk straight to a table of 3 HB8's and I go into my opener, but I stumbled for a moment or two trying to get it out, and actually reversed the lines so it went like this: (shoulder kino, then gesturing for attention from the group akwardly) "... Hey we're trying to hide from this girl, pretend like we're talking for a minute." Not as smooth as I had hoped, but they bought it. One of the girls pulls me between her and her friend, but I said, "No, I need to stand over here, with my back to the door," and moved to where the 4th seat at the small round table would be. This turned out to be a bad move, I'll go into it later. So the one to my left, who tried to move me decides she is going to be my "girlfriend" in case the girl we are hiding from shows up. I said, "Perfect. (kino) There are some 'need to know' stuff we have to get out of the way." We exchange names, birthdays, and we go into hand holding and half-hugging kino. After that, they go back into their conversation and we find out they work in radio. It is slightly akward for a bit when my wing and I don't have anything to say, so I shifted the attention back to us with negs. I got really flirty, and the one across the table liked it a lot. Eventually, I said, "Okay I think we're clear, thanks for your help." As we walk away, the one on the opposite side kisses her hand and goes for my cheek with it. I gave her a big smile, and walked to the opposite side of the bar.

We sit down to discuss how it went, which was very well. The girls were all comfortable that we were there with them, and engaging us in conversation. We probably could have stayed, but we were on a mission and needed to open another set before we left this bar. As luck would have it, a set of 3 HB7's walked right up to the bar and sat next to us. I know one of the 3 girls from a few brief encounters at various bars, so I open it with ease. She recognized me, and we make introductions all around. We got into normal conversation about a common interest, and I couldn't really kino much, but I did leave 2 of them with a book recommendation and my phone number. I made sure to tell them, "Don't bother calling me until you've read that book. If you like it, I've got some more you might like." My wing reminded me that we had to go meet Matt. On the way out, we saw that the first set we opened had already left.

Bar2: A sushi place. We walk in and go upstairs to the bar for a drink. There is a 2 set of HB 8.5's at the bar, and I open them by asking what is good drink here. The one closest to me sort of rolls her eyes and says, "there's a menu right there." I said while grabbing the menu, "ok, what do you usually get?" She replies, "anything with vodka." So I pick out a "Dragonfly", which has vodka. The drink comes, and I say, "I got dragonfly, want to try it?" She kind of laughs and tells me, "isn't that a girly drink?" I made a mistake here. I said, "I got it because I wanted you to try it." when a better response would have been "If I got a manly drink, I doubt you would poison test it for me." She is receptive to the idea, so I push the drink over. She samples it, passes it to her friend who also tries it. She then takes the piece of fruit from the side of the glass, takes a small bite from it, and discards it onto the ice in her empty drink. I took it out of there and ate the rest of it, while she's playing with the straw of the drink. I said, "are you finished playing around now?" And she hands over the drink. I'm pretty bored with these two, and besides, whoever they were texting probably just gave them something better to do because they left.

So we finish our drinks, and head downstairs. My wing has to use the bathroom, so I opened a 6 girl set while he was in there. Mostly HB7.5 and HB8's. I forget what I said to open them, but they were glad for the entertainment. I made sure to mention we were on our way out the door. I sat in the only empty seat, but one girl got up to use the bathroom, so when my wing got back, I suggested that he hold the girl's seat for her. We had a pretty good conversation going, and I took some pictures of the group with one of their cameras. I made sure to get a picture of the group with my friend in it too, and asked to be sent the picture. He gives myspace info to them. We never heard back about it though. So the girl on the phone gets back, and I told her to sit in my seat while I went to the bathroom. After I got back, we excused ourselves and left.

Bar3: A popular restaurant with a dance floor upstairs. On the way to the bar, I tried to convince my wing to take the lead this time. We got there and there was really only 1 set. It was a set of 6 HB8's. We got drinks at the bar right next to them while my friend broke the 3s rule so that he can think of what to say to them. I said, "ok, i'm going to get rid of my gum" and I went to find a trash can. On the way, one of the girls thrust a camera into my hands and asked me to take a picture of all of them. I replied, "only if my friend can be in it too." They agreed, and while I was taking pictures I kept thinking "damn, he was supposed to open them and they opened us!" We started talking with the girls, and it split into 3 groups. I was talking with one girl in relative isolation, my wing was talking to 2 more of them, and the rest were standing by. I was negging and trying to build attraction, kino'ing, and it was working well. But when I found out she was visiting from out of town I became disinterested because I had a mission tonight, and unlike every other night before this, I was not looking for a "fool's mate". The hilarious thing was all the other guys in the bar standing right next to us with their tongues hanging out of their mouths. But we had to "meet up with Matt", so on to the next bar.

Bar4: A lounge bar with a big billed singer. Again, I tried to get my friend to open, but he wasn't thrilled about it. We both knew a lot of people at this bar tonight. A few of my coworkers were here to see the singer, so I briefly said hi at first. In the back of the bar, my friend recognized a girl from myspace. She is in a set of 4, HB7's, and there is another 2 set of HB7's close by. Me and the 2 set are standing between the 4 set and the door. My friend gets cold feet, freaks out and tells me he is running to the bathroom. So now I have to play damage control. I decide that I will try to stop them with conversation if they leave the room. While I am waiting, I open the 2 set by telling them exactly what is going on. They seem amused, and apparently they think I was only making it up. Just as my friend comes back from the bathroom, the 4 set starts to move out and I tried to jump in front of them and said, "hey hold up." One of them says, "we have to go". I had completely abandoned the 2 set, so they say loud enough for me to hear, "yeah we have to go too." They also left, so my friend and I are practically alone in the room and I'm laughing my ass off!

Back in the main room, we watch the singer for a bit, and I try to convince my friend to open a 2 set sitting right next to us. He won't do it, so I clown opened it by saying, "Hey you see this guy? He is so shy. Look at this face. Tell him he shouldn't be shy." My wing was not pleased. The conversation didn't last long because their men showed up. I went over to the bar where a coworker was standing in between HB8's. We talk a minute and I said, "are you going to introduce me to your friend?" and I gestured at the one on the left. I was right next to her, I should have kino'ed her. She said, "I don't know him." So I said, "but you do know her though." and pointed to the girl on the other side of us. She said yes, and all of us talked for a little bit. They liked my co-worker okay, so I left him with the girls. He came up to me later telling me what a great job I did breaking ice for him.

And now for my crowning achievement for the night. I go over to where my coworkers are, and I all the seats are taken, so I sit in a window. There is a girl right on the other side of the window, so I lean over to her and tell her, "you don't mind if I sit here do you? I usually smell pretty nice." I hold out my arm, and she gives it a quick check, then smiles. I was wearing a lot of Abercrombie Fierce, and I guess she likes it. I turned back to my coworkers for a few minutes, and after tiring of the conversation, I lean back out the window and start talking to the girl behind me. She is HB9, the best thing I've seen all night, and I opened her right in front of a bunch of folks from work. The conversation was going so well, I climbed down from the window and sat next to her. It is about time to leave to meet Matt, so I get her number. She hasn't replied to a text as of Sunday.

Bar 5: a fancy restaurant / martini bar SPAM. This is our usual hang out, and we know a lot of the staff. It is also the snobbiest place in town. I opened about 4 sets, but nothing interesting happened in the brief periods I spoke with them. All were pretty disinterested. My friend opened 2 by himself, but also not that much interesting happened for him. This is why we hang out here the most, everybody brings their A game, and it is almost impossible to stand out. If you can make it here, you can make it anywhere.

In closing, it was a much more enjoyable night than the usual "get drunk, find a girl broadcasting IOI's and hope for a fool's mate". I am also proud that the hottest girl I saw all night gave me her phone number. It was the only number I got that night, but really it was the only one I wanted. Saturday was just as eventful as Friday, but I will have to wait to write up that field report. It is bedtime for me.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:54 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:58 pm
Posts: 5702
Location: Nashville
Awesome Job! You did a good job following the 3 second rule and opening sets. Also, nice pull on getting that HB9's number close. Even if she hasn't talk to you as of yet, you saw what you wanted and got it. I know a lot of guys are intimidated running game at clubs/bars but as you are learning its the quickest way to learn faster.

You kind of DLV'd your wing with that one opener saying he's shy. I understand why you did it, but maybe you can come up with a better opener to get him involved. This is off the top of my head so it won't be perfect but, "You see my main guy over there, he's one of the smartest people I know. You can tell he seems a little pre-occupied, maybe you can tell him to relax and that he should have a good time out!" You DHV spike him with the compliment, and open the girls to talk to him. Just a quick idea.

Anyways, nice job overall!

_________________
Been around the world twice, Talked to everyone once...


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:07 pm 
Offline
Member of MPUA Forum
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:12 pm
Posts: 146
Location: St. Louis
Quote:
You kind of DLV'd your wing with that one opener saying he's shy. I understand why you did it, but maybe you can come up with a better opener to get him involved. This is off the top of my head so it won't be perfect but, "You see my main guy over there, he's one of the smartest people I know. You can tell he seems a little pre-occupied, maybe you can tell him to relax and that he should have a good time out!" You DHV spike him with the compliment, and open the girls to talk to him. Just a quick idea.
Yeah you're right. We talked about this afterwards and he asked me not to do that again. He's right, and I won't tell anybody he's shy again, but we did decide it is okay for him to tell girls that I'm shy in a flirtatious way, because I'm obviously not shy. He really loosened up on Saturday because we warmed up with the newbie mission at the mall in the afternoon. He was SO uncomfortable about it at first, but he agreed to try it after I took the first turn. More on this when I write the Saturday field report.

One introductory DHV for my wing that I use all the time, I tell girls he's the best keyboard player I've ever seen, then ask if they've seen Bill and Ted's adventures, the scene where Beethoven finds the music store in the mall and everyone stops what they are doing to watch him play the keyboards. I tell them that going to guitar center with my wing is just like that. I've told it many times, so he is very comfortable stacking on it.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:11 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:58 pm
Posts: 5702
Location: Nashville
Smooth, nice introductory spike setup! With each person the intro compliment for you wing is different. For one of my wings, it's "This is Treize, he's changing the face of Nashville!" for another it's "This is B-Sweet, he's going to be the next country music sensation!"

I look forward to reading Saturday's Field Report.

_________________
Been around the world twice, Talked to everyone once...


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:44 pm 
Offline
MPUA Forum Enthusiast

Joined: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:58 pm
Posts: 40
my wing has done that but its worked wonders because i am extremely shy and have AA . what he does is if i cant open a set in 3 seconds (for clubs, bars and frat parties) he will.
he will say, "hey you see my friend over there, don't you think hes good looking"

HB: "yea hes kinda cute"
wing: "well hes incredibly shy and it would be marvelous if he just realized he doesn't need to be. why just yesterday he had two gorgeous women blatantly hitting on him and the bloke doesn't realize. when he finally picks up on it he shoots them down because he wasn't interested. truth is hes had women hitting on him literally everyday and he shoots them down left and right. hell if i had that many beautiful women hitting on me id have an enormous ego." (this is funny because hes very good looking)
end result is the group opens me and i usually end up with at least a #close with minimal effort. and he gets to dhv by helping out a friend and usually ends up at least k closing. he ended up closing into a 3way with this on friday.

this also seems to lead to isolation alot sooner. the girl that is interested in me comes out and works on me pulling me away from the other girl(s).

so far there havent been ne answers besides this and its only been field tested about 15 times in 3 nights. also not sure if thats his exact wording think he changes it up.


Top
   
 Post subject: Ahem!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:47 am 
Offline
New to MPUA Forum
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:39 am
Posts: 1
I would be that infamous wingman as stated above, and while my buddy's account of the night is nothing but truth, he does manage to leave out one major fact! At the last place we went (snooty, A-game joint) I did manage to get the only K-Close of the night after I successfully opened with a solo at the bar!! Ok, I'm probably too proud of this, but I made some big steps this past weekend. Let it be known! 8)


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:20 am 
Offline
Member of MPUA Forum
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:12 pm
Posts: 146
Location: St. Louis
Wanted to post this line here so I don't forget it. Usually I'll use it as an opener, but it can work any time. I'm going to field test it this weekend. Normally I wear beaming white kicks that I just cleaned up with sneaker cleaner (and a matching white belt). This is the biggest "peacocking" I usually do, and trust me, it really stands out. So here's the line:

Approach the set sort of slowly and playfully, stand close enough that if they are at a table, they can't see your shoes anymore without leaning. "I saw you look at my shoes." If they lean, they've bought the hook, and you've got a kino opportunity.

Probably the easiest stack is into a neg on one of the girls' shoes. Usually I'll tell her I'm on the fence about her shoes, and I'm not sure if I like them or not. Sometimes girls will remove a shoe and hand it to me for a closer look. That makes for some strange kino lol!

Another one for big groups is telling her that her shoes are good, but they clash with her friends' shoes tonight.


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 

All times are UTC


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Can we be honest?

We want your email address. Let me send you the best seduction techniques ever devised... because they are really good.
close-link