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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:31 am 
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Right I'm hoping that I'm going to make updating this a regular thing as I am pretty much at the beginning of my game. So far I've been out four times trying material I have picked up here and only once have I failed to build attraction. So here's everything I've tried and whats happened as a result.


Night One:

I was invited to a girls birthday party. I had only met her and one of her friends twice before but am close friends the guy whose flat the party was in. It was also where I met them at a previous party. Therefore I guessed I was invited by the association with him and parties he'd had. Before going I checked the guestlist on facebook and found that pretty much everyone going was female and close friends with the girl. (in the end 6 guys turned up and I think around 17 girls) I went with the idea of trying what I'd learnt on the other girl I had met before and seeing how it turned out. Amazingly it worked perfectly especially seeing as how she was an 8 and it was my first time trying this.

When I first got there I completely ignored her and went straight to the birthday girl and did all the happy birthday crap, "what did you get?", "looking forward to getting smashed?" etc... I then sat down and ignored all female company, instead talking to the other guys. Not difficult as I knew half of them beforehand anyway. I then got a drinking game started between us and suddenly the girls wanted involved. I moved myself next to my target as we all moved closer together on the floor (small bedroom flat with livingroom next door). I then began opening up to the girls around me. Asking how they knew my friends / birthday girl. After I had been talking to those around me for a while I got out my camera and they loved that someone was taking pictures.

At this point more people began arriving so some people moved into the livingroom which had been set up with lights, speakers and smoke machines, I got up and left as well, leaving the girl behind. Straight away I approached another group I hadn't talked to yet and joined the group saying that "they are being boring in there, mind if I join you for a bit?" Of course they had no problem with that. I again began asking how they all knew each other. I then went round the group trying to guess age and obviously either got it right or was under slightly as it was a group of four girls. The girl I wanted then walked in and asked me to dance with her, this showed me that blanking her had worked quite well. A few minutes later I led us back into the other room but then dashed out again to go toilet. When I came back she had sat down and saved me a space. She beckoned me over but I first got my camera out again and she was only too happy to pose for another photo with her friends. I then sat down, grabbing her hand (acted a little off balance as was walking on the bed). I gave her hand a squeeze as I sat down and she squeezed back. She then said that we needed a photo of us together and this was the beginning of a whole heap of them. Around 40 were taken of us together that night. One of her best friends was also next to her and I did the friendship test on them, they predictably looked at each other and I told them about the deep telepathic friendship they had. They seemed to like this.

I then played the five lies game with her. Using the first question of "do you understand?" to predictably make her lose instantly and make her more determined to win. We played normally and I then won by appearing forgetful and asking what question I'm on. As she'd lost she told me she owed me a hug which I was only too happy to receive.

I told her I should be back in a few minutes and went back to the livingroom. Here I opened on some new people and made myself known to other people at the party. This later paid off.

I went back into the bedroom and again she had saved me a space but this time on the sofa. I sat down next to her after she pulled me closer by my tie. (my peacocking item) We chatted for a while, both flirting when the others came in from the livingroom. They all then sat near me and began chatting to us. This made it clear that I was becoming the centre of attention and she was amazed. She asked me how I knew everyone and I then told her I met almost everyone that night. She was even more impressed by this.

We chatted for a while longer, taking more pictures, more flirting, putting my arm round her to pull us closer together for photos and stroking her arm while I did this, she returned this gesture and so it went on.

As the night came to a close I told her I had had a great time and it was a shame I was going back to uni the next day. She then gave me her number and said we should meet up when I get back. She gave me a big hug and then I left, feeling like a winner. It had also proven to me that this works, and even though I'd used very few routines she had loved them.


Whats Happened Since:

- I was added by every single girl I talked to that night the next day on facebook,
*note* they added me
- I haven't yet called or texted her but in the week since, I've spoken to her three times on facebook. Basically whenever we're both online.
- She's looking forward to meeting up again and we've started organising a party to make sure this happens.


So this is my first field report, obviously I'm new to this so may have made a few mistakes / could have done things better. Feel free to tell me. Also none of the methods I tried here are my own. I've found them all on here but cant remember names, thought I'd add this so people don't think I'm taking credit

I'll update this later today with night two if I get the time, if not tomorrow

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Night Two:

It was my first time I had gone out since returning to university for this term. It was my second day there and me and two of my friends went to our favourite club.

At first I didn't do anything as I wasn't planning on trying that night but this soon changed. We went to the smoking area where one of my friends spotted someone he knew from his course. She was a 7.5 but she was there with her friend who was clearly a 9. Instantly I knew I should try and follow up my success from a few days ago or at least gain more experience in the field. We went over so they could chat and I launched right into the conversation, no fancy openers or anything, simple things like "how do you know each other?", "what course are you on?", etc...

As it turned out she was visiting her friend (my SPAM coursemate). At this point both my mates had finished their cigarettes so we left them to go back inside. About ten minutes later I went back outside to find them again. This time I opened with "my friends are buying a drink and the queue is huge, mind if I hang with you for a bit while I wait?" Again they were happy to have me join them. (this time I added a time constraint because I remember reading on here you should make it seem you may leave at any point and that they aren't going to be stuck with you all night)

I then said that they seemed really close friends, especially seeing as how one was visiting. This led to them telling me when they met, how long they'd been best friends, etc... This set me up for the friendship test. I tried it on them and like last time they looked at each other and paused. I told them how this showed a deep relationship and they loved this. The 7.5's boyfriend then turned up and this was perfect as it isolated me with the 9. We joked around for a bit and I told her a complete lie, "I am part Jamaican." She laughed but didn't call me on it. I then laughed and told her it was a lie, she giggled and said she did have an incline. This had set me up for the five lies game. I started the same way as I had last time "who do you think lies better boys or girls?" The game played out exactly as before losing at both hurdles.

She was starting to get attracted, I'd picked up a few signals, looking me in the eye then smiling timidly when I held her gaze, moving a little closer to me. There were a couple of others but you get the idea. We had been talking for about forty five minutes when my friends came to find us. The 7.5 then said lets go back into the club and of course the 9 followed. She turned to me and I said I might see them later. In doing so I was trying to show that I was the prize and could disappear at any moment. But I'm almost certain this is where I went wrong.

About half an hour later I saw her inside and she beaconed me over, I joined her, the 7.5 and her boyfriend who was overly protective of any other guy in the group. I ignored the girls and turned my attention to him to get him on my side, after all I wasn't even after his girl. I managed to make him more comfortable but he seemed set on being miserable so I turned my attention back to the girl. However at this point it was too loud to properly talk to her. Time passed and she seemed quiet happy in the club pretty much ignoring me. I got the occasional smile but nothing else. I left again telling her I was meeting my friends outside in the smoking area.

I came back again and now a group of guys had noticed her and were obviously trying to pull her. Dancing close to her, etc... but she ignored them and was clearly not interested. However they didn't back down and this resulted in them acting as a barrier between me and her. I then gave up and went to say hello to some other friends I hadn't seen in a while.


Again I take no credit for any of things I used, I found them all on here. But I would like advice on how to hold attraction inside clubs where its too loud to talk. Also how to rescue them after they are surrounded by guys that they have no interest in. Feel free to leave anything you think might be helpful to me. Thank you in advance for anyone who does.

Also report 3 will be coming soon.

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Night Three:

First of all, sorry for the delay been busy with work and so have not had much time for the community.

This night was a local showcase of metal bands, I got a message from a friend saying that a few people were going to the pub before hitting the club where the bands were. I agreed to go along and meet him there, but when I got there he was no-where to be seen. I spotted a group I had seen before, we had mutual friends and I knew they would be going to the club as well.

I did the obvious opener "my friend seems to have bailed, mind if I sit with you for a bit before I head to the club?" They invited me to sit down so I pulled up a chair between two of the girls who were chatting to try and break apart their conversation and focus attention on me. There were two guys and three girls I had met one of the guys and girls before and knew they were going out the other was a HB7.5 and one was a HB8 but I was quite good friends with the 8's boyfriend.

The couple I'd met before began asking me how I was doing, when I was going to the gig tonight and if I wanted to join them. I continued talking to them then the guy left to go get some weed for when we walked to the club. I then included the others into the conversation, though continued ignoring the 7.5 as she was the target. Eventually we left when the other guy returned and she started walking next to me.

We fell behind the group a bit and began talking, no routines or anything just chatting. We walked alone the whole way except towards the end we were joined by the 8. We got there and I said I might see her later and joined the pit for the bands, after all it was supposed to be about the music tonight, not the game.
I headed out the the smoking area to meet a friend when I got a tap on the back and she hugged me. She led the way outside and we sat down, bailing on my friend. I did the five lies test on her and gave her a palm reading. When I took her hands I gave them a little squeeze which she returned. She seemed to like this and offered me a drink.

We went back inside and sat down at a booth with the same people from earlier. We held hands for a while until I escalated and put my arm around her, she put hers around me too. The night went on and she spent the entire time next to me. We left with her friend (the other guy from the pub earlier) and walked back to her halls, just outside I said I was heading back to mine, we hugged and she slipped me her number. I said bye to the guy and headed home feeling great.

For some reason despite her looking good and us sharing loads of interests I didn't want to have sex with her so I didn't push to go to her room or bring her back to mine. It's weird a problem that I had on my next night out. However this was still a huge leap forward for me, another number and friend request the next morning on facebook.

Again, no original material, all found on here. Thanks for reading, and any advice you may have would be great

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Night Four:

A long time coming, especially seeing as it happened before I started keeping this log. A quick summary of this night, started well, got distracted from my target, made out with a girl beneath me (with a bad reputation around university), felt shit about it, left with nothing.

The night started with me going with a mate to a gay club. My mate is gay and despite my misgivings I had gone before with him and could have pulled three girls easily had I not been in a relationship. Its not just easy to pull if you're gay its just easy, as lots of girls go with their gay friends, there's also the benefit of less dickheads being around to mess up your game.

The night started well, I spotted a HB8 and HB7.5 talking. While my friend was at the bar I went over and opened quite honestly. I said I was trying to hook up my friend with someone that night and needed help as I don't know what to do to help him. They loved this, as I presented it as a game/challenge. We started talking and I did the best friends test and they failed. They came straight out with the answer, this being no. Though no-one likes being told they failed, so I altered it a bit and said "woah! you didn't even have to look at each other, there was no pause, you defiantly know each other well!" We talked for another five minutes before the HB8 spotted a couple of gay guys she knew and said they might be able to sort my friend out. This was good as it had isolated me with the 7.5, while she wasn't as good as her friend she was defiantly good enough.

We went over to the bar and got drinks and played the cube. We continued talking a while longer until I held her hand and led her over to a couple of free stools near the bar. She sat next to me and pulled up close. It was going well but I had made the mistake of drinking too much before I went out, the conversation started slipping and she started losing interest and began playing with her phone. I then remembered the freeze out, I told her "I'll leave you with your phone for a bit, I'm going to find my friend." I got up and left, she seemed quite shocked by this. I found my mate, talked with him for a while, then decided to pick up the game.

I went back inside and spotted a group of three guys two girls, the guys were clearly gay, I introduced myself and joined the conversation. I was keeping it as small talk as they were both 7's and I was still aiming for the first girl. Then like that she spotted me a came over, she held my hand and led me over to the bar. The freeze out seemed to have worked. She then told me that she was trying to find her friend and they were going to go to another club up the road. I said I'd help her find her friend and was also thinking about changing clubs, but said a different one to the one she suggested. She said that I should come with them and we could sort out which one on the way there. I agreed and we found her friend (HB8) but her friend pretty much blanked her as she was now with another group.

We went back downstairs and over to the bar, she was feeling a bit pissed off, even more so because part of the reason was that she needed to go to a cash point which was part of the reason they were leaving. I bought us a drink and she cheered up a bit and gave me a hug, telling me I was really nice.

I then invited her to join me and my friend while the HB8 stopped being a bitch. She happily accepted this and I held her hand as we walked outside to find my mate. He had found some friends from uni, two gay guys and a 5.5 (she was the mistake), and we joined them. She knew them as well and was happy to find them, after a while we all headed inside.

The 5.5 then asked me if I was gay, obviously I said no though I wish I had said yes as she would have backed off. From then on she was all over me and that last drink had given me drunk-vision, she now seemed a 7 and worth getting with. Without trying anything we ended up making out, this killed my chances with the 7.5 in seconds as well as being a huge regret for days.

After half an hour of making out with her I began to sober up and realise what the fuck I was doing. At this point I said lets find the group and as soon as she was with friends I bailed. I checked my mate hadn't found someone he'd regret as well. Realising he was I fine I pretty much ran out of the club and home.

Basically what I learnt from this was that I should take the drinking easier if I intend to pull.

A brief description of the 5.5 to try and save a little dignity, her face is good looking and she had huge tits, but what ruins it is she's just above the sexy kind of chubby. You know how some girls can be slightly (ever so slightly) chubby and still look fantastic? well she was just over that limit. Going by looks alone she would be a 6.5 but its her personality that I'd heard about. I've seen her facebook posts before as a friend constantly laughs at them, they are generally "Im FUkkEd U.wwankerzz" then hours later "FEelling sooo shhhiiit!!!1". Yeah she's one of those. What makes it worse is that days later she was arrested for punching some guy in the face eight times. So basically I'm glad I sobered up when I did as it could have been an even bigger mistake, she'd already asked her place or mine.

A huge mistake I wont be repeating any time soon. My rule HB7 or over. As always the techniques used (when I was actually playing the game) were all found on here. Though a small problem I'm having at the moment is that when I was talking to the HB7.5, I was defiantly attracted to her but if she had offered I wouldn't have had sex with her, my sex drive was gone. It returned later when too drunk but we don't talk about that, and thankfully I came to my senses anyway cheers for reading.

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Quick note:

I've also realised that since discovering this and applying it, I've began eating healthier and drinking less. So not only is it helping me with my social life and to meet girls but it's helping me all round. I've also found myself more focused and motivated regarding work. Generally speaking my life is improving. I recently read the book "The Game" by Neil Strauss (which I'm guessing you are all sick of hearing about as even I've spotted it numerous times on this site) and it warned readers about the opposite effect in relation to work and that you can become obsessed trying to be the best PUA.

Well basically everything is going well for me at the moment, thought I'd share this as I'm sure it has something to do with learning this stuff. Also at some point today I'll get round to writing up night five.

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Night Five:

There have been a few nights between this and night four but those were get wasted nights which resulted in me getting smashed. And after what happened recently when I was wasted I am not picking up like that.

This night was different as I was wingman for my SPAM, he's generally quite good with woman and until recently had pulled the most girls out of our flat of ten, I've now overtaken him thanks to this site. But his sticking point is opening he just gets nervous around new people and stands awkwardly, so it was my job to open for him and get him involved.

We were there for about 20 minutes when I spotted a girl by the bar. I'd seen her briefly and I knew she had a couple of friends that were his type so I approached her. There was quite a big queue so I pretended to turn to the first person I saw and asked her "How long have you been waiting? I'm trying to work out if its better to just go upstairs" She said she'd just got there and it's going quickly so I should stay here. She asked me who I was there with, IOI right away, I answered and asked the same. I did a little push pull until we got our drinks, though I didn't really need to. One of her friends came over, a HB8 and started talking to me, asking questions, being quite flirty. I brushed it off as if it was nothing and this got her more interested.

I said I should go find my mate who would probably be outside. They said they'd come with me as they needed to smoke anyway. I led them outside and found him. He joined us and I did the general introduction and gave a little information to him about them so he could open up a bit. He had positioned himself on the wrong side of me though as the girls were on the other side. I repositioned myself to separate the girls and keep him close to the HB8. I started talking to her friend to allow him to win over the other girl. This went on for a while then another friend came outside and joined us. He was also single and I was pretty sure this other girl was his type so I introduced her to him but ignored the other two who were getting quite close (mission accomplished in my opinion). I then set about trying to kill her attraction with me, I dismissed everything she said, when she tried to create a connection by telling me which bands she liked, I responded that they were shit. And even when I liked the band I said that her favourite song was the biggest heap of crap they had ever produced. After a little while I noticed her interest in me fade so I went to the bar again and left them to talk.

At this point my job was over so I opened on another group and just joined them for the rest of the night and had a laugh. Winging had been a success.

In the end my SPAM kissed the HB8 and got her number.
My other friend wasn't looking to pull that night but made friends with the other girl.

Generally speaking quite a good result. Thanks for reading

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I'm doing away with the night idea, keep falling behind in this and I'm not going to write up every night, some are successful others not so much, such as when I'm trying out new lines, stories and routines.


This night started with us inviting a few friends up to our flat for some pre drinks before we all went to the same club. They then each brought others and it ended up as a small pre party. There was one girl I had seen before but never spoken to who is a HB8 and so I decided to see how it went with her.

When they arrived it was fairly awkward as everyone was sober and no-one really knew each other except whoever brought/invited them. To break this I started a drinking game. This slowly got everyone talking and people started having a good time. I pretty much ignored the HB8 and spoke to the rest of the group, making sure I was the one in charge of the game. As the game went on I gave her a few negs telling her she was doing awful/couldn't handle her drink.

After a little while we were all talking happily and I was able to begin talking to her and I found that we had quite a few similar interests. The hours passed and it was going well, at one point I came back into the room and she smiled at me and told me she'd just been talking about me (I then looked a bit confused as I sometimes use this as a routine after meeting a girl) she then hugged me and said it had all been good stuff. We then left to go to the club but I was unable to get the same taxi as her meaning I'd have to open again.

When I saw her she was looking for my friend, who I know she likes but who doesn't want to be with her. I told her I'd help her look for him and took her hand as we searched the club for him. After quickly checking each room I said he'd probably be in the smoking area or if he wasn't he'd be there soon. She said that sounded good especially as she needed a cigarette. We met some friends outside and joined them. I then picked up the conversation from before after opening with "how do you know everyone?" We talked about our similar interests and I gave her my shirt as I also had a t-shirt and it was cold. She huddled up close to me and I put my arm around her. She asked if we should go get drinks and I replied by challenging her to the five lies game. If she won I'd buy her drink for her, if I won nothing would happen (I hate making people buy me drinks). She did well but lost on the final hurdle "you've played this before." I told her that no-one has ever won and she called me mean (playfully) I then took her hand and led her to the bar. Once she ordered her drink I then paid for it telling her it was her second place prize, she laughed and hugged me again. This was all good as the guy she had been looking for did join us outside but she pretty much ignored him.

She then said she was going to the bathroom but she would meet me on the dance-floor. The dance-floor being my sticking point! When she came back I froze up, my dance game is terrible, in fact I have none. After a few minutes I could tell she was losing interest, she had gone to dance with some of her other friends a couple of times, who were of course better looking and had better dance game than me. After this I was convinced I'd lost her but she came back and I remembered a post I read on here about the dance game, making her do a couple of spins and then pulling her close and dancing with her. I tried this and it saved me! I was still to nervous to properly dance with her but I was able to hold her interest and touch her more.

The night went on but it went terrible right at the end. She said she had to say bye to her friend (again better looking than me) and she ended up leaving with him. I knew I'd lost it a bit on the dance floor but I didn't think I'd lost completely. I then walked home with some other friends, no result but a good fun night.

However since that night I learnt that they are only friends and she had said to him earlier that she'd leave with him. I've also now got her added on facebook and we chat fairly regularly, she's given me her number and we may be meeting up and going out again on valentines day (which is now tonight) I'm looking forward to trying the seven minute date routine that I found in "The Rules Of The Game" by Neil Strauss as I can see this working brilliantly and I'm eager to field test it for myself.

As always routines used are not made by me, thanks for reading, feel free to leave feedback.

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This time I'm not going to write a full in depth report about the night but instead what I tried. I used Gamblers stealth attraction from the featured video which was nothing short of incredible. I Combined it all fairly well and was able to build a good amount of attraction.

I also did the old five lies test which I really should stop doing as I use it way too much, as well as using some of the lines in Jay Wa's post in the routines forum. They worked well together and when mixed with what I've learnt already, it leads to a more unique and enjoyable experience.

A good night and successful test. Thanks to Gambler and Jay Wa

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Thought this was worth a mention by the fact its hilarious.

I gamed a girl last week and it went fairly well, I didn't close properly but I definitely built attraction and we have spoken since.

Well I saw her out tonight so I went and said a quick hello then went to open some sets and continue learning Gamblers stealth attraction. Over the night I noticed around five AFC's trying to hit on her. I barely spoke to her all night and had almost no contact with her, I joined her for perhaps two songs then went back to the three set I had opened earlier. Anyway the night went on and I decided to go home early so I said a quick goodbye to everyone I knew and went to leave when she came over and said she'll come with me. The look on their faces was priceless, they had all bought her drinks and spent the entire night with her competing with each other, then I take her home. It took so much effort not to crack up.

Again I didn't close properly so all I got was a long hug but it showed me that what I did last time with her was unique and memorable. If I want to attempt the full close I don't see it being too difficult and I probably won't need to do much more, perhaps just a little more kino and escalation. Anyway hope you found this as entertaining as I did.

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Since last editing this I've been out a few times and tried some new material. First off, openers. My openers seem to be pretty lame. I usually approach a group and simply say "I've lost my friends / someone has flaked on me (or something to that effect), do you mind if I join you for a bit?" Pretty shit in all honesty, a DLV straight away and nothing they won't have heard before, so I decided to look at some new ones and find something more interesting.

I recently read "The Rules Of The Game" by Neil Strauss so I thought I'd try out some of the material within the book. I tried the jealous girlfriend and the one about breast enlargement and I found both to be pretty awful. I used each one three times and while I got a response, the interaction between us was always fairly awkward. The breast enlargement was especially awkward and once I simply thanked them for their input and left as fast as I could, eager to put that opener to rest. The jealous girlfriend went better but my presentation was pretty poor so made it sound a little scripted, the first time they even said "bullshit" and "this sounds so made up." I managed to save the open by cracking a big smile and laughing, telling them of course it was and I was seeing how many ridiculous lies I can tell people that night. The third time it worked a little better, I was getting the hang of it but it still seemed too fake. I don't like using it and found these openers didn't really work for me.

What I've now done is returned to my bland opener but made it more interesting. After saying I've lost my friends I then make a spotting game where I describe them and point to people and use them for references, e.g

"You see that guy/girl there? They're about that tall and have a similar shirt"

This also gives me a chance to get a bit of kino, putting my arm around them and gesturing to someone or a group. Afterwards we quickly look around and I then say "ah well, you guys seem nicer anyway, I'll find them in a minute." This still gives me a time constraint (loose though it is) as well as complimenting the group. So far it has gone down really well and successfully allowed me to join a group. I also sometimes add in "you see that him/her over there? Well they look nothing like them."

There was also another opener/DHV that I used from the book that relates to cat and dog people, I've never used this as an opener but I did use it as a conversation piece and generally speaking it went down quite well. The first couple of times I tried it it was delivered incorrectly and I sounded nervous so it was pretty useless, I quickly discarded the whole idea and changed subject. But after those times I've given it another couple of try's and it seemed to work just fine. It does seem a good routine I just need to work on my delivery.

I've also been using the name remembering routine from the same book. I've been using this one for a couple of weeks now and its never failed. It does only give you a small DHV but it seems a nice addition when learning their names.

I've also been continuing to work on Gamblers Stealth Attraction and its working wonderfully. Thanks for reading.

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It went really well tonight! Its the first time I've had an HB8.5 come and open on me. A whole new experience, however I did blow it a little bit. I tried to play it cool and in the end played it too cool and let her slip through my fingers. I saw her throughout the night and despite other guys attempts was able to get close and get a large amount of kino, but I didn't stick with it and left her to it after a few minutes in an attempt to prevent myself coming off as needy. We agreed to meet up next week so hopefully I can rescue this pick up.

The reason for her open isn't certain, I'm not exactly the best looking guy in the place, far from the worse, but I'm not confident in my looks. What I'm guessing is that she saw me talking to loads of other girls and so saw me as being a person worth getting to know. I will admit now I didnt manage my promise of eight opens but I did open on a group of girls out for a birthday party and so was able to meet 12 girls through the two I opened on. I also opened on another group who turned out to be with a distant friend of mine. I talked to them for a bit before isolating myself with one of the girls but as it turned out she was my friends girlfriend so that didn't go any further.

One of the girls was all over me and I could have quite easily taken her home but it felt too easy and required little game to pull her. As a result I wasn't happy with her resistance so number closed and moved on. I'm still not sure why I didn't go for it but it just seemed too easy.

Anyway the main open I used this time was the basic one I mentioned in my last post, what I added this time is that I was looking for my gay friend (which in all honesty, I was) but this seemed to work even better. By mentioning the fact the guy I'm looking for is gay it seemed to relax most people, as well as make them open up to me as it suggests that I too may be gay and so have no other motives by talking to them. Obviously I quickly made it obvious I'm not gay but it got past the initial bitch shield.

Generally a good night though I'm currently heavily regretting the fact I didn't full close. Anyway thanks for reading

Jontay


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:23 pm 
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I've decided to start at the beginning again.

I feel I jumped in too eagerly and have not yet mastered the basics. I can open a set, build attraction but I seem to fail at closing properly. Also, while reviewing my game it seems sloppy, I've never consciously locked in (I have done it a couple of times naturally) which holds me back. I see myself as being very nice and so I'm reluctant to neg and push pull. I have also done little with my image, despite my post in inner game I still feel I look too scruffy and that this may hold me back.

As a result I've been playing around with my existing clothes and found I can make more appealing outfits, I've also looked and found more clothing I would like to buy, but due to my lack of money, this may need to wait two weeks until I have a small holiday with family which will allow me to get the money I need for a make over. I'm also heading to a hair stylist on tuesday and I'm completely changing my hairstyle. I would also like to get more piercings but this will have to wait until the Easter break as I have little cash and I have a friend back home who could do it cheaply.

I'm now focusing on using a better openers the ones I've picked up from reading about Mystery's material seem pretty decent, such as "What do you think about tattoos on girls?" I'm currently thinking of trying one regarding facial hair as I like having a bit of stubble, getting their opinions on facial hair (expecting negative) then referring to someone and joking that "So a beard like ... wouldn't suit me then?" Haven't yet tried it but I like that I'm starting to think of my own material.

Other things I'm going to work on is body language, I don't lock in and I don't do enough body rocking when I open. There is also isolation and leading the set but I feel this may wait until I've improved in opening first.


Quick summary of my targets for next week:

~ Get a new hairstyle
~ Open five sets effectively
~ Work on my opener and get it perfected
~ Lock in during each set
~ Open within 1 minute of entering the club every night
~ Isolate at least one target


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Tuesday night was possibly one of my worst nights. The club was dead and had very few targets, most of which were clearly in a relationship with someone there. In summary a complete sausage fest with no female dominated sets. I also went out completely sober and bought just one drink so drunken courage was lost, however I can tell I'm making excuses, It was a difficult night but not an impossible one.

I instantly felt a huge amount of AA and froze up, there were no sets I could see that I should open and initially the club was dead despite arriving late. I knew quite a few people in there so I tried to at least DHV and work the room so I went around and said hi to everyone.

As the night went on it got a little busier and I eventually managed to get over my AA. I opened a couple of sets with the tattoo's on girls opener and it worked fairly well. One set had two guys and one girl and unluckily she was in a relationship with one of them so I just made friends with them all and moved on.

Another set was three guys and one girl (you can get the idea of the terrible ratio)
and again she was in a relationship. I used a couple of routines but it was just to compliment as I'm not going to try and pull a target when they clearly have a boyfriend and he is there.

After this I just went back to my friends and made some new ones. A terrible ratio and a shitty night.

The good points are that earlier that day I got my new hair style and started using the tattoo on girls opener. I also remembered to lock in which is a big improvement.

Hopefully Sunday will be much better as my friend has invited me along with him and his course mates, all of which are female and my friend is gay. Therefore I'm instantly in a set, it will just require a good open / introduction to avoid falling into the friends group.


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This Tuesday was much better, opened three sets and did the best isolation I've ever done. The first set was the worst one but helped me in the others. Opened using the girls with tattoos opener, she asked me if that was my chat up line and I answered with a very enthusiastic "NO!" and continued which she found quite funny. However I didn't engage her friend very well and could tell she didn't like me so I ejected. While a failed set I learnt that I need to engage the obstacles more.

The second set was very good, used the same opener and remembered to lock in after I reached the hook point. Didn't need to talk to the obstacles as they left her to talk with me and isolated for me, I think they were trying to help her pull that night so I had an easy job. After a little kino and the five lies game I said I needed to find some friends and left with the intention of picking up this set later.

After a little while I found her again this time with two other guys, both of which were giving her a lot of attention. I joined the conversation using the neg "Hey introduce me to your friends, that's the polite thing to do." After this I pretty much ignored her and began talking to the guys, a minute later I had them debating which of them could drink more and got them to leave and start a drinking competition. This was the best isolation I've ever done and I felt so proud of myself.

I left her again to try and open another and found a good four set, two guys and two girls. I used the same opener and remembered to involve the whole group. A couple of minutes later the guys left and I continued running the set, used Style's name mnemonics and five lies routines and what was surprising is that she won. I tried my DHV story about the time I went to Camden, got on the guestlist of an exclusive party and then met an old friend of Kurt Cobain and was able to stay at his house. This went well considering it was the first time I've tried it. However I ran this set for way too long and didn't escalate enough so it didn't really go anywhere, I know she liked me and her friends who joined us liked me so I'm guessing I've got myself stuck in the friends zone.

Generally speaking a good night but I have a few notes for myself:

~ I used the same opener each time and so should use different ones.
~ I need to escalate faster to avoid falling in the friend zone
~ While I did remember to lock in sometimes I need to do it more often
~ Use my new DHV story more to access its effectiveness
~ Learn to spot IOI's
~ Research closing as my sets seem to taper out and lose attraction


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