Hi guys!

Awsome thing has happened! I've been playing this HB7 on and off for a while. Things have been escalating and yesterday she was talking with me on SPAM, using her webcam. There she was, in a T-shirt and small panties... basically trying to tease me by moving the webcams focus on and off her butt, legs and face (awsome legs, 10 in my scale)... She complained about her back and neck (funny IOI after the leg-showoff). So I said I was a great at massage. "I can give you one right now!" She closed her eyes and relaxed, I started telling her how I massaged her back and neck. Then I escalated and started telling her my secret massage technique. This escalated into me virtually kissing her and stroking her breasts... no more detalis for you there ... Anyways, she was AMAZED, and couldn't believe how good I was (she really got her mind into it, biting her lip and all that stuff).

This was ofcourse great. But I still hadn't touched her in real life...

So today I took her to the Library coz we needed some books for school. There I told her I still owed her a real massage. She giggled and insisted on me giving her a real one, just as I did on SPAM. So I took her into the library toilet

*toilets are great to have sometimes, and not only for doing crap stuff*

There I started gently by giving her neck some job. Then I removed her t-shirt and did her back. She was totally relaxed when I started kissing her back, gently and with some tonguetip. Then after about 30 min I stopped, sat down and said I was done (ofcourse I knew I wasn't ). She was a bit shocked that I had stopped, I guess she was expecting more escalation and perhaps a f-close. So she begged me to do her face with my fingertips, wich I did, pretending it was against my will.

*Ten minutes pass*

I go in for the k-close and she almost loose her mind of tension release. She grabs my head and responds with holding the kiss for what seemed like about 2 min.

You guys can guess the rest, hehe.

PS: This happened only 3h ago!

/R.O

Rock out! Good job man, now that's a close!

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Been around the world twice, Talked to everyone once...

Nice. I can't believe you were "allowed" to stay in the toilet that long, but nice.

hehe, we were a bit worried that this old man that watched us go in would still be out there waiting. Fortunately he had lefthe scene

We were in there for about 1h, maybe 1h 15 min, I'm not really sure. And I can add this now:

- We did another SPAM webcam chat the same night. It lasted 7h! In this chat I threw in some minor routines(Cube and 5 question game). Used No negs, and she is really starting to fall now, thinking I'm the nicest and greatest guy in the world (wich ofcourse is true).

/R.O

Nice man. You should be ready to f-close her right now. That is, if you're old enough . . .

Now I've really messed it up!
Today I walked out with her again. And again to the library (a bad idea). She had told me earlier that she wanted another massage from me. To this I had agreed. But then when we walked around in the library I reminded her of this little "deal" that we had made. She ignored it... Then she started reading books about her boring family history(she's like royal or something).
Question: By reading these books, did she try to show higher value to me for her being royal? Or was is a form om IOD, by not wanting to do something fun with me?

I thought that I should try and do some kino to make her drop the books. She liked it but kept on reading, so I treated it like LMR and walked away looking for my own books to read. After a while she came looking for me. And now I really did something stupid! I asked her if she wanted that massage now? I became NEEDY! The obvious answer was No. And I came into a halt.

We walked around in the Library until she sat down in a chair. There were three chairs in a row and she had placed herself in the end of this row. I thought to "push" her away, so that she didn't think she controlled me. So I placed my bag on the chair beside her and sat down on the third and last chair. Now I really got into problems. She started using P&P against me! Now important for you guys to know now is that this girl nows a little of AOTP. Not much, but enough to know the big strokes of what I'm doing.

Since she started treating me like I treated her I didn't know what to do. This was an obvious Shit-test and I failed it.

The time past while we gamed eachother. I tried again to k-close her, wich I did. She seemed to like it, but I'm not sure. She said this afterwards anyway:
"We really got to stop doing that"
-Now I don't know if she wanted me to stop kissing her for all time, or if she commented me on a really good kiss?

I replied to what she said by taking my arm off her and do a minor Roll off. Her phone rang just after that and she left me with the words... "Be careful so that I don't turn into a LJBF". She actually said "LJBF" !!! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO!?!?!? I feel a little bit eased though, coz she said it in a playful way, but just that she knows what LJBF is makes me terrified of gaming her more. I don't want to lose this girl. But right now she is playing me harder than I can cope. I stand clueless... I really need the help from you guys!

Summary:
*How should I treat her resistance?
*How shall I work on her gaming me back?
*How can I repair the damage already made?
*What was she reading boring books infront of me?
*Anything else you can see that I did bad? Help!


/R.O

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"Life's a bitch and then you marry one"

Good News first of Bad News first? Hell with it I'll start with the good news!

Good News...First off, you did a pretty good job showing giving IODs to her IODs and treating her behaviour like LMR. You are doing a good job! You know where you are making mistakes, which is a good thing. Just try and make good decisions.

Bad News...She obviously knows how the game is played. This is to be expected. She's a HB and been doing it longer than we have. She could know the LJBF things several ways, so let's not all freak out thinking she read the game or something.

More Good News...Even so, I will use another forum member as an example here. *Don't hurt me* Zip is on our forum and knows our methods. She will play along with a PUA because it's an enjoyable experience. I hope I'm quoting you right Zip. This girl could be the same way.

So eat your Wheaties, drink your Gatorade, get your game face on! IOI with IOI - IOD with IOD, keep the kino going where you can. Push-Pull. You should be close enough as far as time spent in the comfort stage to move back to seduction and maybe even f-close. Don't flinch if she says anything about the Game, PUA, or Mystery. Be prepared with a response in case she does.

To quote Nike "Just do it!"

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Been around the world twice, Talked to everyone once...

Exactly man. Like jsmooth said, DON'T be afraid that this girl knows about the game. There's nothing wrong or scary about that! What do you do? Simple . . . KEEP RUNNING GAME.

Yes, jsmooth, you did quote Zip right bro.

And, if she actually asks you about The Game or says anything whatsoever about it that requires an answer from you, DON'T DENY IT. Knowing about it and knowing what you're doing CAN actually help you. And, by showing her that you're honest, that will ONLY help you.

EDIT: One thing you could throw in there is . . . "glad you're up on pop culture", or "glad you're well read", and add to the end of either one, "I like that in a girl".

You got it. A girl who is worth her salt and knows about this stuff is not scared of it. Hell, it makes our experiences with men more enjoyable...but it doesn't mean we'll make it easy on you.

I'd rather be operated on by a surgeon than by a plumber.

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- Zip

I was wondering if you'd find that post! Glad I got it right

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Been around the world twice, Talked to everyone once...

You messed up a bit, it seems like you're showing signs of one itis. Mentally, don't transfix yourself on her like that, it should provide you with better frame. I wouldn't go too crazy with IOD, the best way is being busy and having other friends!

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Thanks all you guys!
I think I'm back again. She called me during class today wondering what I was up to. I answered her that I had class and therefor was busy. She then waited 4h for me to finish. This I saw as a big IOI. So when I was finished and met up with her we went to eat something, coz we were both hungry. After we had eaten she started playing me again. She started with kino and then doing a roll off, not looking at me and not talking to me. So I asked her if she had some mental disadvantage or something(my neg). This made her a bit confused, she couldn't reply. So to lighten the mood I did the handwriting test with her. Didn't remember it too well, but I made up as it went along. She thought it was really funny and started laughing. Coz according to the handwriting test I had done, she was basically a bitch, with the biggest ego ever. We laughed at it a while and then it was as if she suddenly remembered she was supposed to be cold and try to freeze me out.
She said that I was boring and turned away. Now I wanted to test her and see how far she would go with this "crap". So I said that I had a bus leaving in 10 min and if I really was so boring I could go with that bus. She didn't reply and didn't turn to face me. So I grabbed my jacket, packed my bag and turned around to walk away. THEN she grabbed me so that I couldn't leave the table. I turned around to face her and she looked a bit scared as if she had gone too far. I didn't comment her on what she had just done, I let the silence speak. So I sat down again and she became a lovely girl...

Now I just have to keep her that way, so she doesn't think she can play me again.

Now, I want as much info about what I just did as possible. Was it good or bad?

Thanks for all the help you guys, I actually thought I was back in square one. Without you I would've given her up, thinking she was more than I could take.

(And to you KeepNitReal, you were so right! She was about to become my one-itis. Didn't see it coming, but thanks to you telling me I could threaten her with the bus thing... and it obviously worked. So extra thanks to you)

/R.O

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"Life's a bitch and then you marry one"

Whoa! you're welcome! Glad it's working. Only thing is these girls tend to re test you in the future, and sometimes they crave the power in a relationship. once they have it they get bored. so you have to be always aware of this. I know this cuz one of my best friends, yes a girl, I fell into LJBF box 10 years ago LOL...she's like this with guys she meets. Luckily, i don't mind being friends cuz, she's a great pivot and she's HB 8.

But don't get me wrong i would still bang her. ahahahaha ahahhaa

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