Sarge HB8 with her friend.Unsuccessful, need some opinions.



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:50 pm 
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Before anything, I have to say I am really new to this whole PUA thing and in fact, this was one of my first ever sarges following the proper methods.

So I was out on a field trip with my friends, we're in a club and we went our own separate ways. At the bar I see a two set. One about a 8 and another friend of hers maybe a 5. Obviously I was after the 8. It was near the bar but the music is really loud and I can't really say my opener to both of them at once as they were quite far apart. This is how it went.

ME to HB8: Hey, I need an opinion on something.
HB8: Yeah what is it?
ME: What do you think about girls with tattoos?
HB8: I think it's kind of cool. Why do you ask?
ME: Well here's the thing, my sister wants to get one, of her boyfriend's name on her left shoulder! She's 19.
HB8: Definitely not a good idea.
ME to average5: (I am still ignoring her friend at this point but I make an attempt to open her up too) Well as I was saying, my sister wants to get a tattoo on her boyfriend's name on her left shoulder. What do you think?
HB8 breaks in to say to ME: Is this some sort of Dare you are on?
ME to HB8: Why? Do I sound rather mechanical? (And I look back at Average5)
Average5: Bla bla bla, talks and talks and talks.
ME to HB8: Wow, your friend talks alot. Is she always like that? (Negging the average5, obviously a bad idea, but I froze)
HB8: Yeah she's always like that.
Average5 to ME: Well, you asked me an opinion. I am just trying to give my views on it. (I can tell that she's kind of mad at this point, I think I destroyed her)

At this point, I am done with my opener and do a pull technique like I pretend I'm going to leave and I come back.

ME to HB8: Alright before I go (I am still ignoring the average5 and she has her back facing us already) do you believe in ESP?
HB8: No, not really.
ME: Alright, you know what it stands for right?
HB8: Bla bla bla.
ME: Give me your hands (trying for some kino here). Trust me. (she gives it out and I run my ESP routine and by all means I guessed the number 7 correct)
HB8: Wow, my friend did it on me before. I don't know how you do it.
ME: (Gives a smirk like I am frigging good). Yeah it's amazing ain't it.
HB8: What's your name?
ME: I'm Stan.
HB8: I'm XX (and she extends her hands out to shake mine)
ME: What are we? Business partners? Come here (and I pull her in to hug me, but I think I kinda leaned in too)
HB8: What lololol?! This is XX. (She points to her friend and I say my name but I don't even shake her hand. I din't know why I din't at least try to shake the Average5's hand. Maybe because I did not shake the HB8's hand.)
ME: Haha. So what have you got going on besides your looks?
HB8: You're pretty sarcastic aren't you? I'm a producer, bla bla bla bla for about 2 minutes. (I pretend to be interested)
ME: Alright thats cool. (At this point I think I've kinda blew it already because of how I neglected her friend)
ME: Nice chatting with you guys, I gotta get back to my friends. Bye.

And I leave. I froze really bad and just put all my attention on the HB8 which was really bad I know. But I just didn't know how to handle two girls at once. I think I got some IOIs from HB8 but of course it wasn't going to go anywhere because of how I treated her friend.

What's my major leaks here guys?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:11 pm 
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looks like you're on a great start. of course it wasn't perfect but trust me it never will be. don't waste your time the way i started out by watching hundreds of workshop videos, reading thousands of posts, learning the theory and some things to say now and then... but nothing sticks more in your mind then when you actually EXPERIENCE things... just go out there and continue to try

expect to fail that way when you succeed it makes things all the better... and if you expect to fail then maybe you'll feel comfortable with yourself and you'll feel like "fuck it i'm just going to fail, so every positive thing that happens is good and only going to get better from here"

handling two girls at once you do need to impress both of them. it's the whole social proof/preselection theory. the friends have a HUGE influence on the target (the HB8). you can get lucky or bypass it, but it's better to not notice the friend rather than neg them, you did the latter of the two which goes to your disadvantage.

i personally hate opinion openers now, because i get called out on them now. i guess the more sets you open the more you experience that, but i would say it's a great start.

i think you're having inner game problems, because that's the reason you froze up. you need to pump yourself up for success and literally FEEL like the shit. you need to act and feel better than everyone else.... and have a huge amount of confidence.

where you messed up a little was probably your body language and presentation of when you tried to talk to the friend. i think that's why she said "are you doing some kind of dare or something". your body was probably not congruent with your actions and they could smell a mile away that you FORCED yourself to talk to the friend as well... so they knew something fishy was going on. get it?

inner game is priority! you need to be a "natural" at feeling comfortable in social settings and just talking to whoever. you can't care so much so drop the expectations.

you don't necessarily HAVE to neg right away... you could just DHV the whole time to gain some rapport and get everyone more comfortable with each other. when they like you, you can start throwing negs and stuff... but lightly and in a playful manner. respect them but flirt, flirting is where the negs come into play and looking at them like you want to F-close them haha... let them know they're attractive when they give you some IOIs, but neg them as well... it's kind of hard to say exactly what to do beacuse it's all on personal preference... you learn by experience

try to be more alpha and lead the conversation. i remember when i first started i only did one DHV opinion question and never extended the conversation... all i did was gain a small amount of interest by just appraoching and having something interesting to talk about, but i never went anywhere with it. eventually as you "master" certain topics you can do mutiple DHV stories and questions.

when you no longer think about things though, you basically just talk to them like a normal friend by just rambling on about whatever you want... because you guys are both comfortable with each other. negs will come natural and your inner game will be at it's prime because you know first hand from experience that this all works

hopefully that helps... good luck

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:34 pm 
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Sounds to me like you were doing fine. Probably should have negged and then stacked into a routine after she qualified herself to you.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:26 pm 
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As far as a first sarge, good job. Early on its all about getting a few runs under your belt. Even though you didn't get any kind of close you were able to notice a lot of the mistakes you made and can be prepared for them next time. Its all a learning experience.

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