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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:48 am 
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I've been reading your thread and its really interesting and motivational (I should start taping myself!). At the same time, I've got some comments on your most recent tapes on group approaches. I've always found approaching groups of girls to be the toughest especially during the day and by going direct. Its actually a huge sticking point of mine which I'm trying to overcome by goin indirect and holding the conversation. The problem is that there needs to be a moment where you isolate the one you're interested in in order to show intent (cant just imply you want them both.. right?) I feel like a wingman is necessary for isolation at this point.. or you could go like hey let me borrow your friend for a second I've sth to show her we'll be right back.. I've tried it like once or twice and feel like with practice, it could be very useful.

also, cool use of the best friends test! Don't think it worked out very well because it fizzled and kinda self-destructed but you stacked forward quite nicely.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:52 pm 
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The problem is that there needs to be a moment where you isolate the one you're interested in in order to show intent (cant just imply you want them both.. right?) I feel like a wingman is necessary for isolation at this point.. or you could go like hey let me borrow your friend for a second I've sth to show her we'll be right back.. I've tried it like once or twice and feel like with practice, it could be very useful.
Thanks for the advice, I will try to isolate by asking to borrow the "hb" next time I approach a two set after asking the obstacle what makes "hb" a good friend and a little fluff talk with both girls.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:02 pm 
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Friday January 11, 2013
I went out at night with some friends and made about three approaches. The first one was a three set, they felt I was an intruder so I ejected. The second one went well, but I was under the influence so I ruined the closing part of the interaction. This particular interaction I did a lot of hand holding and deep eye contact with my target and probably should have kissed her at some point, as she was very receptive to my kino. The final approach was a two set. I opened indirectly like “cool shirt, what are we celebrating?” and fluff talked with them for a bit. I managed number close but should have escalated for a kiss close since she was fairly enthused. I did a lot of hand holding with my target, but I cannot recall how well I demonstrated intent other than physically. However, demonstrating intent physically is vital and something I lack when I day game. I appear to have different sticking points when under the influence. I escalate physically fairly well and am a good conversationalist, but suck at closing. During the daytime, I am horrible at showing intent and escalating physically, but am calmer and my actions are well thought out. I need to work on finding the perfect balance.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:18 am 
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Sunday January 13, 2013
I went to the mall with a wingman for a few hours. I number closed one of the girls from a two set and should have number closed this other woman, but when I used her phone to call myself, the call did not go through apparantly so I do not have her number. I primarily opened two sets since that was pretty much all that was available. I did get a good social rhythm going and even approached a two set of women in there late 20s. College will begin soon, so I can begin sarging at a place more appropriate for mass approaching.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:02 pm 
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I went out at night and managed to meet a girl who was I believe dancing alone by the wall. Her friend was dancing with her boyfriend. I told her she looked nice and had fluff talk. I was hand holding the entire time and made her verbalize how we had good sexual chemistry. I tried to kiss her, but she rejected me. I therefore asked her to dance and she complied. After about two songs, I dragged her off the dance floor and the lights came on. We went outside where we flirted some more and I set up a future meet up. We couldn’t pick an exact day, but decided on what we were going to do. I then went for the kiss close again, but succeeded this time. I really need to try and implement my escalation tactics demonstrated during my night game, during the day.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:14 am 
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I went to the mall today and opened a few sets. They were all mostly high school girls. I had one decent approach where we talked for a bit, but she told me she had to meet up with her roommate, which prevented me from achieving an instant date and stated she had a boyfriend when I tried to close her. I did stop a two set and we talked for about ten minutes. We were ironically at the same bar last night, but I don’t remember seeing them there. I closed my target and told the two girls that we would party together one day again at the same place or the casino. They seemed somewhat enthused about the idea and they are both new to the area.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:06 pm 
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Thursday February 07, 2013
I have been hibernating the last few weeks because of school and cold weather, but I plan to start going to campuses within a few weeks for some mass approaching since that is my favorite method of sarging. However, I did go out last night, but not much went on. I did a few approaches and managed to number close one girl who was with her friend. I had a friendly talk with both and introduced them to one of the friends I was with. I told them we should go out together one time, they complied and I exchanged numbers with the more attractive one. The reason I did not escalate sexually is because my target was unreceptive to my hand holding attempt in the beginning, which caused me to turn the approach into a lets just be friends type of interaction.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:33 am 
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Monday February 18, 2013
I stopped at a college campus although it was freezing out. I managed to do only a few approaches and number closed about three. My last approach on the campus turned into an instant date where I walker her backed to her dorm and kissed her. I stopped at the mall after leaving and opened one girl in which I number closed. I wish I had audio or visual for these, but I will try to have some videos up soon.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:52 pm 
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I went to the bar and made only a few approaches. The first girl was married and I can’t recall many other ones. My only close was a girl who was with three friends. Her friends left us for a while and later tried to ‘steal’ her from me, but I told them ‘back off, we like each other’ or something similar. I had to do that twice. There was a lot of handholding and our bodies were pressed up together. We just fluff talked unfortunately until her friends told her they were leaving. I told her she seemed cool and asked her if she wanted to meet up and she said yea, but was not sure of her availability. Sounds flaky to me (also because she avoided my attempted kiss close), but I told her I would call her Monday for us to figure it out. I want to work on different methods of closing such as whether to ask the girl if she prefers call or text and do the one she is comfortable with, just tell her you’ll call (or send a courtesy text first), or just text her. Over the next few months I plan to try all three to see which is most efficient. You're welcome to share what has worked well for you.


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enjoyed reading this dude .. interestingly you are going in direct(ish) ... I would say if you are getting serious ioi's / daygame and don't have any reason to stop someone, go direct otherwise go indirect .. gives you a chance to build attraction. otherwise you are inviting a split second decision right off the bat.

by 'fluff talk' do you mean normal chat and building comfort? if so noting wrong with this ... you have to do it in my experience otherwise its weird. practise negging ... and qualify these girls .. ask them what they can do etc .. with logistics of phone .. I would let them give you their number and then you call her .. don't punch your own number into her phone as to me it comes off as you are too much in control of the whole dynamic .. she needs to be involved.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:48 pm 
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You open an insane number of people.

I started my journey similar to you, my rule was at least one girl a day everyday.
One thing:

In my experience it began with rejection, then i started getting numbers, then k-close, then f-close. By the end of about 2yrs I was f-close pretty often (~30%) of opens. Now in a relationship so didn't continue the progress. Are you f-closing these girls or are you trapped at the #-close stage?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:28 pm 
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I have been inactive for a while, but I was just getting flaky numbers at first. Over the last few months I've been getting girls out on dates and even one or two interested in dating me, but I am also about 15lbs. heavier (better looks) than I was when I was active in this journal. I have been doing a lot of self-improvement including focusing on my looks. I am currently participating in approach anxiety drills intended to help me rid of AA forever and plan to be done with it by the end of December. The program requires me to put getting laid on hold so I am therefore focusing on my looks and others areas until I finish the program. I will then get back out in the field and do some recordings again where we will then see the progress made :o


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:51 am 
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Alright, so I am back to approaching and have cured a good portion of my approach anxiety although I will continue to work on this. My sticking points (little touching, talking to fast, and not enough teasing) appear to be the same although I am more comfortable in the interactions. Today, I stopped at a local college after work and managed to get four numbers then I managed to get a number at a grocery store on the way home. So thats a total of about eighteen numbers in threes days of mass approaching for a few hours. It seems I do okay with basic guy game because thats pretty much all this was. What sucks is that most of these number closes today had something in their hands like a cell phone, books, bags, or cigarettes, which prevented me from grabbing their hands. However, one girl I spinned around and told her she had a nice bag, but then that I was just kidding and I wanted to check out her ass. I need to be doing more teasing and sexual complimenting, as I continue "fluff" talking. I also need to slow down because I talk really fast and cut girls off as they are talking. Overall, my AA is somewhat cured, but there were still a few opportunities that I missed; primarily older women (>30). I may have to perform drills on older women, but continue approaching the younger ones in which I am already comfortable approaching. Anyway here are three audios (3 of the 5 I closed today) and I encourage feedback or constructive criticism.

This was some hipster chick smoking a cigarette.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyWzQGoVkYo

Two pretty hot, silly girls. I number closed the better looking one and did a lot of teasing here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgBwtx-SdTE

Chick at the grocery store who was out of college.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28XN_L1bMDI


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:53 am 
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My friend is having a party tomorrow so I ran promoter style game. I was still direct in my openers, but offered the girls to attend tomorrow. Here are two audios, one of a two set and one chick from a department store.

Two girls at the mall.
Day Game1 10/11/13

Chick at the store.
Day Game2 10/11/13


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:57 am 
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I managed to get about three numbers today and worked on holding girl's hands for a period of time until they felt it was awkward and pulled away. I was also giving girls sexual compliments throughout the conversation more and it led to women telling me they had boyfriends faster or disqualifying themselves quicker. I guess that's the whole point of screening and some of these techniques is probably the reason why I only ended up with three numbers, but two have already been texting me. In regards to my current AA, I probably approach about 80% women I would like to approach and today I opened a lot of sales associates at the mall directly. One of my number closes today was a woman running the make-up stand at Macy's. I have not been able to get any of my other recent numbers on the phone yet, but I have been doing basic guy game, well more like "Mr. Funny Man" game actually. I need to work on touching more and continue throwing in more sexual compliments. I plan to go to a college campus to work on this soon. No audios today, since nothing was really worthy or different from my most recent audios.


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