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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:31 pm 
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I like how you focus on one girl at a time. I think I'll try this out for 2 to 3 weeks.

My current sarging style is to sarge 5 to 10 girls bouncing from one girl to the next in a venue and then doing the rounds again after ejecting interacting some 3 to 5 minutes per girl. It's a combined social and sexual game with multiple mini-takeaways.

So, yes. Your style looks good and I want to try it if it'll work for me too.
Hey man after the Alex RSD Hotseat my game skyrocketed. Literally. I love his way and it works for me. What I do now is talk, chit chat to chicks, open, fun haha, be really nice, and it's man to woman frame ANYWAY, since you are a man and she is a woman. In the beginning the girls need to be comfortable around you, then you are innocent and just talk, build physical rapport, have fun, etc. There's a lot more detail to it.

However once I find a girl I KNOW I have to spend a lot of time with her in order to fuck her, so that's my aim. To just be around them for the longest time, more than any other guy in the club. She will know you the best, and at the end of the night you are most likely to go home with her because she feels she knows you and can trust you. You walk her home or tell her to afterparty without any intent, because the game is played in isolation later anyway where things happen. Until then just stick around and keep their goddamn attention, build physical rapport, endure and pass tests (both active like "You're a player" and passive like her turning away from you, awkward silences, etc.) and keep having fun and be confident and lead.

The first 3 minutes in the interaction you NEED to ramble about ANYTHING, because the only aim here is to keep her fucking attention so that you reach the hook point, after the hook point it's a breeze. You just stick around haha, and establish fun, physical rapport (which keeps you out of the friendzone 100%) and physical expressions (touching shoulders, making points, hugging, twirling, etc.) anything to touch her basically, and making bold moves (which you can make up to 4 times! Like going for a kiss, asking her out on a date, reapproaching, telling her you'll walk her home, telling her to get into a cab, etc.) and then the game, as mentioned, is played when in isolation. That's what my game focuses on now, keeping her fucking attention for a long time, because comfort and arousal is a factor of time.

Oh and yeah, every set I go into, I try to keep their attention and see where I can take it, where it can go. This is really important.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:58 pm 
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Man, thank you for the process steps. I'll commit these to memory. I'll ask for your help one of these days when I get to a sticking point trying this style out.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:08 pm 
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Man, thank you for the process steps. I'll commit these to memory. I'll ask for your help one of these days when I get to a sticking point trying this style out.
No problem. If you want to check this video out, it's all of his concepts and game in one:

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:59 pm 
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So I called the Spanish girl from yesterday (where I could've gotten a potential lay) and she didn't pick up, but she texted back saying, "Hi swettie :) how are you? I'm in the london bridge...how was your day? X"

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 Post subject: Re: Tr@veler's Lodge
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:18 pm 
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So it's time to set some new goals. I feel I've reached a few of my goals already but they're not enough. I'm now able to go into set, keep the conversation going, able to apply various techniques, able to show intent, able to build my momentum, able to escalate, able to build a connection, able to calibrate, able to correct myself either from set to set or night to night, able to isolate every now and then (not enough!), able to number close if I go for it, able to get the ocassional makeouts, and able to pull at times. My pulling is very inconsistent, though. I want to move to advanced game where I can truly pull every month or maybe even every two weeks.

My neediness is pretty much gone. I know the principles, in fact I know so many principles sometimes I don't know what to do with them, which ones to follow, which way to approach a set at times, what I should do tonight, that my game as of late has been inconsistent. I feel I need to find my own way now, based on my goals. I've been in deep contemplation about all the things I did right in the sets that went well, all the things I did with the girls I pulled, and there are a lot of things I could focus on. One mindset that helped me is from Mark Manson's Models, who says that you will probably only get around 5% of all approaches you do, meaning 95% you won't sleep with. Then again Alex from RSD says that you can persist many times and even turn a girl around, which I have done several times as of late. Alex's mindset of You are already enough has rung a universal truth in me, but has also taken the motivation out of me for some reason, because I am chasing less.

At times I follow 60 Years of Challenges "system" or beliefs, by just escalating hard, and this seems to work too. I have found a combination of all of them seems to be best, and to calibrate when necessary.

Gaming in a night can be exhausting I have found, especially if I follow Alex's method of staying in set as long as possible, enduring tests, and persisting with the same girl. I need to find a balance of lightness at night but also a relentless attitude of persisting and going for it. I can get girls that show interest now, and even girls that only show a little I can sometimes get. At times I go hard with 60 and chase, at other times I go indirect and build comfort, but sometimes the sets are a waste of time.

I think I might have to just approach more, but also go for every set in a way. I'm stuck at this point. I'm not sure how to play my game anymore, because I have learnt a lot in the past few months of going out and also learning from different sources. I feel like I'm stuck.

I also lost track of my goal. My initial goal was to get good with girls, and I feel I've almost achieved that in a way. At least I know I am attractive now, but I am also lazier now for some reason. I feel like I must find a new goal. I was talking to my wing yesterday here in Vienna, and his goal is an ambitious one of reaching 300 different lays. I kind of liked the sound of that, in fact I really liked the sound of that, and whilst I am still far off, it would push me to better my game, go out more (5-6 nights a week), and just play a lot.

I feel I am at a point where I can get a new girl if I want to, if I go out enough and put the time and effort into it. But I'm also at a stage where the time and effort I put in is still higher than the results I am getting. I don't know yet how to get to a more efficient point. If anyone has any ideas please chip in. I like that goal of 300 different women, that seems truly awesome. I love game but it also drains my energy, I have to confront fears every night which makes me feel both alive and yet also always pressured and intimidated. I have yet a lot to learn to overcome these fears, to change my perspective on a few things.

I now also have the understanding that change takes a long time. However change will come. In the beginning I wanted a quick fix like most, and I kept at it and the "fix" came over time. I am very different to how I was when I begun. Just take a look at my posts over the past 2 years. I am now a lady's man which is awesome, and I know it. I do want a way to go out though which is much more efficient for me. Maybe approaching more women really is the answer. On one hand I know that I am enough, but on the other hand I want to continue to push myself, my skills, my limits, so I have come up with something that might be of use to me. A routine of sort, but not a routine that I use on women, a routine for myself, like a gym routine. Something like this:

1 day a week work on a specific skill
1 day a week work on being completely honest, vulnerable, and direct
2 days a week work on just going for the close however
1 day a week go out to just have fun and do nothing if you don't want to


Something like this. I don't know if this is a good way to go about it, but I want to try it.

I want my new goal to drive me, and the goal of 300 different women is a nice one I feel. No specific time limit, just that goal in mind already motivates me to keep going. Onto the new years with even better game!


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 Post subject: Re: Tr@veler's Lodge
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:07 pm 
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So this is kind of fucked up but I think I got myself the herpaderp, the hsv1, da herpes on da mouth. Recently got together with this girl in Vienna and after we had sex a few times she stafting getting blisters on her lip. Then she told me she got the herpaderp. I was like Wtf thanks for telling me. We kissed a lot and she gave me head too. So now I'm gonna get tested asap. But I probably have it now. Anyone else have it? I beard it's not that bad, that many people almost never show symptoms. But some do and you can infect people easily. If you do how do you deal with it?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:38 pm 
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Lose the set with the kiss

One thing that has been building up again is my fear of making the move for the kiss, of establishing a romantic connection rather than just a friendly one. I've been trying out slow game where I just take the pressure off but build physical rapport. It just doesn't work. You have to make the move and the quicker you make it, the better. The quicker you make the move the faster you set the frame that this is what the relationship is going to be if you're going to stick around with me. THIS is what we're doing, not that.

Doing slow game really brought back fears of making the move because I ended up playing it "safe" and letting things "build", but they don't. They really just don't. Think of it like a big experiment. I was out with a girl for a Day 2 yesterday, a 10 I picked up in a club. Gorgeous but also distant and aloof. Very difficult to make a move because she was giving no signals apart from just being there. I had my arm around her, no recirpocation of any affectionate behavior. Thinking back I should have just gone for it, I should have risked losing her because not making the move would have gotten me nowhere. I should have addressed the elephant in the room, "Are you alright? You seem distant," and then let everything be open. Instead the date was awkward. An It's On Moment like 60 Years of Challenge calls it didn't happen in the club, even though we were extremely close to each other and holding hands. There was no caressing, no kissing, a lot of cheek to cheek talking and touching, but nothing more. She was very comfortable around me then, but still aloof. Very mixed signals which threw me off completely.

Now this has been a problem this past month. Making the move has been something I've been holding back from. It's something I need to work on now. Going for it every time. I have to lose the set with the kiss to set the frame that this is the way it's going to be. I say lose the set because that is the fear, that I will "lose the set" if I go for a makeout. That she will reject me and walk away. But that's exactly what needs to be done. I need to lose the set, no matter what her attitude is, no matter what she looks like. The frame has to be sexual. And the sooner the better. The longer you wait to make it sexual the more awkward it becomes. Sure the tension can build up but then there is the possibility of losing her as well, in case she wants you to make the move and you don't. She'll think you're a pussy.

Lose the set with the kiss. Make the move fast. Set the frame early. You might think that girls want to take it slow. They don't. They want it fast. Faster than you think.


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 Post subject: Re: Tr@veler's Lodge
PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:22 pm 
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So this is kind of fucked up but I think I got myself the herpaderp, the hsv1, da herpes on da mouth. Recently got together with this girl in Vienna and after we had sex a few times she stafting getting blisters on her lip. Then she told me she got the herpaderp. I was like Wtf thanks for telling me. We kissed a lot and she gave me head too. So now I'm gonna get tested asap. But I probably have it now. Anyone else have it? I beard it's not that bad, that many people almost never show symptoms. But some do and you can infect people easily. If you do how do you deal with it?
This is not a fullproof method, however, I usually try to have a conversation about past sexual experiences before having sex with a woman. During that conversation, I try to bring up any STDs that may have been caught in the past. However, I'm also cautious, because I try to get the women tested presex. It takes time and sometimes you don't have sex with them but it's worked for me. It also makes most of the women trust you and want you more.

PS. If it turns out that you do have herpes. Do not make the same asshole move that the woman pulled on you. Make sure that your future partners know about it before making the choice to be with you sexually.


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 Post subject: Re: Tr@veler's Lodge
PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:01 am 
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Rebooting this log. It's been too long.

The reason I'm rebooting this log is because I need to get back on it in terms of logging down my path. It is a great way to see and keep track of progress and therefore also a huge motivator. I feel like it makes me think harder about my own game and also makes me think more about game in general.

My main focus is on today, even though I went out a lot last week as well, both day and night game. A quick recap on last week with the most memorable moments:

Tuesday: Went out to O'Neill's, a pub in central London, with 3 other guys. One of them (J) is good, able to pull girls a few times a week. Whenever I'm with him it sort of give me free reign to do whatever I want. He is aggressive in his approach and escalation, and gets blown out a lot, but in the end alway manages to find a good set. Most memorable part of the night is gaming this drunk Irish girl whom I ended up k-closing twice, once in the smoking area after holding onto her hand as she tried to get away and not letting her, and once again at the end of the night when the pub closed. I also gamed this one girl who worked at the bar together with J. We both gamed her for the hell of it, and ended up both pulling her out of the club. I wasn't attracted to her so I gave her to him. He pulled her and from what I heard he took her all the way to his place 40 minutes via bus and then told her she couldn't come in. Fun times.

Wednesday: Went out to O'Neill's, where I met my two wings already in a 7 or 8 set by a table. I walked up and all the girls told me that it was this one girl's birthday. I went up to the birthday girl and hugged her wishing her a happy birthday. She thanked me with a smile and I kept hugging her, then said "Let's do a birthday kiss." She moved her head back and said "No" but had a huge smile on her face, which gave me the green light and I k-closed her then and there within about a minute. The girls cheered, and I talked a little more and made out with her again, more intensely. I then took her to the bar and ordered us both drinks, but her friend dragged her away to the bathroom.

The rest of the night I cannot really remember.

Thursday: Did a few approaches in O'Neill's. Then walked up to a single set and kept talking until she hooked. She was Spanish but quite old, which was a downer. I got to 60 Years of Challenge's mutual caressing moment within about 5 minutes, caressing each others' hands without kissing. I then went for an isolation but she said she needs to stay here for her jacket since her friends aren't here, so I stayed calm and told her to get her friends here. She searched for them and once she found them I went for the isolation again, this time with success. I bounced her to the smoking area upstairs, but did nothing with her. She wasn't talking much and I really couldn't be bothered with her since she wasn't really that much of a grab. I got her number and then told her we should go back inside, which we did, and I said I'd call her. I didn't.

At the end of the night I approached a girl in a two set outside the club, with a simple "Hi" and stretching out my hand. She asked if she knew me, with a smile, and I playfully said that we're getting to know each other. She was cool with it. I talked with her and the conversation was very chilled. Her friend was alright with us talking. We had some commonalities like she studies TV Production, and I study Film and TV Production. Suddenly a guy came up to the set, and he had her name tattooed to his hand which made me think that this is the boyfriend. However after about a minute of seeing how they talk to each other, a light-bulb went up in my brain and I figured it is probably her brother, who was quite drunk. Anyway I got her number and told her we should go for a coffee. She agreed. I texted her the next day and we made plans to go to an open-mic night near my place on Thursday. Who knows if she'll come or flake, but she seemed quite enthusiastic via text. I will text her again tomorrow (today actually), to test the waters and take it from there.

Thinking back I should have tried and bounced the set to get some food nearby, to spend more time with them.

Friday: Did some day-game for the first time in ages. Still got it. I did around 5 or so approaches I think. The most memorable 2 being this one German girl on the streets and this German girl in the supermarket. I was out with a wing, whom I am sort of coaching/he's wanting to get better and hanging out with me. I approach this girl on the street right after I give hime some pointers on vocal tonality and body language, with "Hey, excuse me, this is going to be random. I saw you. I wanted to say hi." Her eyes lit up and she smiled. I found out she was German and had some flirting in German and also in English. She was looking for her friends, so remembering my speech I gave to my wing on leading, I said "Let's walk." I stretched out my hand for her to grab but she said no, laughing. Then I made a hook out of my arm for her to hook in, and again she declined (token resistance). I kept my calm and laughed it off with her because I knew she was madly attracted, as was I to her. We walked and talked for a little bit. She had to leave on Monday (today) to go back to Germany. I told her we should go for a coffee before she leaves, but she declined. I kept persisting with humor, saying we should go for a 30 minutes coffee. No. A mint tea. No. A black tea with milk and two sugars. No. She kept laughing and found my persistence really attractive. I told her she could say no via text (my go to text line if the girl gives me a no in the beginning.) She said there would be no point as we would not see each other again. I asked her if she has Facebook, which se agreed to give me. We are now messaging back and forth from London to Germany.

The Supermarket girl was also German. I was hungry and walked past Marks and Spencers, when I saw a blond girl walk into the supermarket. I immediately turned around and walked in, too. I followed her and went straight up to her and opened with the same "Hey excuse me. This is going to be random, but I saw you and thought you were cute and I wanted to say hi." She smiled and I talked for a little bit. I employed more random talking to hook her, which she did. But she wanted to get back to her shopping, so I went for the number and she gave it to me. I told her we should go for a coffee, and she said yes. However I texted her and she didn't reply back.

Later that night I went out to Koko, a club in Camden with both my wings. The night was uneventful as for some reason my approach anxiety was quite high. I did a few approaches, maybe 6-10, but none of them went anywhere. My energy was low, my emotional state was low, I wasn't feeling it. I opened this one Austrian set in the smoking area, with "Hey do you know when this bar closes" a classic indirect opener. I continued to talk until the set hooked and I was in with the cute 2 set. However my wings just stood there not doing anything, so it was difficult for me to bounce the two set by myself. I got stuck.

I reapproached the 2 girls who were now part of a 5-set half heartedly at the end of the night when we were all leaving. They were quite bitchy by then for some reason and didn't even speak to me properly anymore.


Saturday: Did some more day-game in Camden. Did 3 approaches and got 2 numbers, both of which didn't reply back.


Today: Went out today since I figured it's St. Patrick's day. However I smoked weed at my house before I went out which was a stupid fucking idea. I got to O'Neill's and my approach anxiety was high. The place was packed, there were quite a lot of hot girls around, however I had major anxiety for some reason and froze. I was really tired and still high, which didn't help and may have even fucked me over. I did 3 approaches, the last one of which hooked but my wing wasn't able to keep his girl interested, so she pulled my girl away to the dance-floor and after that I went home.



What I need to work on: completely doing it for the approach. I will always have approach anxiety, it happens before every approach. Only that on some nights I can handle it better than on others. Tonight I could not handle it at all. On other nights I can coach myself into it per se. I can push myself until I'm approaching. I need to cultivate that every day forever from here onwards.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:08 am 
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How long have you been in the game? AA goes away after a while. It sounds like you're decent at opening after reading your last post. When you go out, especially at night, don't even think about AA. As soon as you see a set, just jump into it and say whatever you feel like saying. Analyze the girl's investment and then try to K-close as soon as possible. If you can't K, then number-close and be out. Have a look at my FR thread: game-seven-nights-a-week-vt174285.html. And let me know if you have any questions.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:50 am 
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How long have you been in the game? AA goes away after a while. It sounds like you're decent at opening after reading your last post. When you go out, especially at night, don't even think about AA. As soon as you see a set, just jump into it and say whatever you feel like saying. Analyze the girl's investment and then try to K-close as soon as possible. If you can't K, then number-close and be out. Have a look at my FR thread: game-seven-nights-a-week-vt174285.html. And let me know if you have any questions.
Hey dude thanks for the advice. In the game for 2 years and a bit now. I've been reading your journal as well. Nice of you to chime in. Feel like I'm hitting a bit of a plateau if that's even possible in terms of my game. I can walk up to a set, hook it, get a k-close from time to time, get numbers with a large number of flakes if the interaction isn't solid in the club or on the streets or wherever I meet them (sometimes they are hooked even after only a small interaction, though, and reply back, and a few of them come on a Day 2 with me). As for SNL's, still difficult for me to get. My logistics have improved now that I have a place in Camden which is a big club area, however my pulls are inconsistent at the moment.

And because of this plateau I think I have regained some AA just because I've been pushing hard yet only progressing slowly, or so I believe. That's part of why I'm restarting my log, because maybe if I write it all down I can see that I actually am progressing rather than forgetting about all these nights.

Thanks for the advice again.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:31 pm 
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How long have you been in the game? AA goes away after a while. It sounds like you're decent at opening after reading your last post. When you go out, especially at night, don't even think about AA. As soon as you see a set, just jump into it and say whatever you feel like saying. Analyze the girl's investment and then try to K-close as soon as possible. If you can't K, then number-close and be out. Have a look at my FR thread: game-seven-nights-a-week-vt174285.html. And let me know if you have any questions.
Hey dude thanks for the advice. In the game for 2 years and a bit now. I've been reading your journal as well. Nice of you to chime in. Feel like I'm hitting a bit of a plateau if that's even possible in terms of my game. I can walk up to a set, hook it, get a k-close from time to time, get numbers with a large number of flakes if the interaction isn't solid in the club or on the streets or wherever I meet them (sometimes they are hooked even after only a small interaction, though, and reply back, and a few of them come on a Day 2 with me). As for SNL's, still difficult for me to get. My logistics have improved now that I have a place in Camden which is a big club area, however my pulls are inconsistent at the moment.

And because of this plateau I think I have regained some AA just because I've been pushing hard yet only progressing slowly, or so I believe. That's part of why I'm restarting my log, because maybe if I write it all down I can see that I actually am progressing rather than forgetting about all these nights.

Thanks for the advice again.
Right on. I think, from my own experiences, it's pretty easy to score K-closes. You can score one from probably every four sets you open. On good nights, the odds are even better. Try going for the K-close more often and see how that treats you.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:47 am 
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Went out yesterday and had a Day 2 today.

Yesterday: As I was walking down my University campus back to the train I was walking behind three girls who were chatting. One girl left so now it was only two. I was quite close to them and they turned to look at me and giggled. Then the one on the right turned again and laughed. The other laughed and said "Behave Sintia!" I walked up calmly and said "Hey. What's up?" They giggled. "Sintia," I said. "What kind of a name is that?" I chatted about her name a little bit and found out it's spelled with an intia at the end haha. Her friend left so now it was just us. I asked her what she studies and she said PR and I told her I didn't even know there was a PR course on this campus. I asked her if she's the only student and if she's on an imaginary course. She laughed. I asked her if she is Russian, she said now. I said that she must be Eastern European then and she asked whether I could tell that from her accent. I first sarcastically said No, but then said yes. I'm very good with nailing down accents and am becoming better and better at it. We got to the station and were about to part ways. I told her to give me her Facebook as a number would seem to desperate as we might bump into each other again. But my phone was off and she said it must be fate. I repeated her name "Sintia" and said goodbye. I later added her on Facebook and now we're chatting.


At night I went to O'Neill's. Opened a 2 set by the bar as I was getting a water just to get social. Chatted a little bit, took their picture after taking a picture of me first, or so I think as there was no flash. The set wasn't really hooking or I wasn't talkative yet, so we went upstairs to the smoking area.

I was really jittery as I just wanted to open and not wait around, so after my wing smoked we went back inside and I was ready to open.

Opened a set with a girl wearing a Hawaiian like necklace with flowers on it saying "I like your necklace." She took it off and put it on me and walked away. Now I have a great little peacocking device which I used all night last night.

I opened a set with a french girl and she hooked. It was a perfect pickup for the most part. I opened her with "What's your favorite color?" Pointing at my colorful flower necklace. I ended up talking a shitload about something, hooking her, then told her to come to the bar with me, then told her to come upstairs and we ended up in the smoking area, where I didn't kiss close her because I was too pussy, very afraid of losing the set and waiting for the right time. In the end she walked away back to her friends. This was the best set of the night but it felt great.

I opened another girl in the smoking area asking what her favorite color on my necklace was. She responded with a color I can't remember. I started gaming her, asking where she's from and telling her that we should go travel and go to Vegas. She said we should get married which was going to be my next line but she got there first, which gave me a flashing greenlight to go for the kiss. My wing said he pronounces us husband and wife and I said "Now we kiss" but she backed away saying her boyfriend would not be happy. I told her my boyfriend would not be happy either, pulling my wing in, and told her we should go on a double date in Vegas with both our boyfriends. I went for the kiss again, but she backed away again. I kept persisting until I got tired of it and told her to kiss me on the cheek. I should've used something along the line of Julien's line "You already cheated on your boyfriend, cheat on him with a proper kiss." However I didn't do it. Anyway I moved on to the next set.

Inside there was a two-set, a black and a white girl. I opened with the same "What's your favorite color?" And they told me their colors. I started talking about shit, about how no one chooses purple and how everyone chooses blue and yellow. I tried to run the two-set as well I could, and I did a decent job, but my wing didn't enter the set so I couldn't do anything with it. Midway through a friend of my target's entered and she said hi. I talked to the black girl for a bit, before my target came back into set and just chatted with her friend. I thought to myself I need to get their attention back onto me, and light heartedly thought I should use Mystery's "Have you seen the fight outside" line, which I did and I found it funny because back in the day I would've used this routine to get something out of the interaction, but now I was using it kind of ironically in my own head. Anyway nothing could rehook this girl so I left the set saying goodbye.

My wing and I walked around and he went to the bathroom. I opened a 2 set and asked them what their favorite color was. They hooked. They were American and I chatted the shit with them. I escalated on the cutie to my left and told her I was gay. My wing had come back by this time and I said I'm gay with him. She said they are actually lesbians, which threw me off for a second because she said it so sincerely. I can usually tell when they're bullshitting which is 99.9% of the time, but it threw me off this time. I continued gaming anyway as I knew that from experience. Then as the set reached a high I said that they should join us for an afterparty. They asked where it was and I said just around the corner haha. They considered it but said no. I continued talking then said they should join us for the afterparty again. They considered and asked where it was and I said Camden. They considered but declined again. My wing wasn't really pushing hard either and I ended up settling for her number but she couldn't remember it so I gave them my number which they won't ever call probably haha. Anyway it was a fun set.




Today: Had a Day 2 with a polish girl whom I met at the end of a night last week. It was a really quick interaction and I thought she would have flaked but she seemed interested at the time. Anyway I hit her up via text the next day telling her it was cool to meet her. This was the TV Production girl I talked about in my other field report.
Anyway she displayed interest via text, texting back (which really is the only sign of interest you need) so I told her we should go for a drink. She agreed and said Thursday, to which I said there is a great open mic at a bar I know, which is also near where I live. She said she was cool with it, which was the final IOI I needed as my place is fucking FAR and a girl who is willing to travel so far is interested for sure.

Anyway we meet up at the station and she's looking good. I couldn't remember exactly what she looked like from last time, but she's done up, tall, slim, Polish, and just all around nice style. We head to the bar and chat casually. I know I've got her because she's fucking travelled all this way, but I chat chat chat and set the vibe to being chilled and talkative. We enter the bar and I show her around. We check out the open mic upstairs but there are no seats, so we go back down and get a beer each and sit down by the sofas.

Now she's sitting on one sofa and I'm on the other, but I don't panic as I know I can escalate slowly - there's really no rush as we can always escalate at my place. We chat and talk the shit for a little bit, getting more and more comfortable with each other. We start showing each other pictures on our phones, which I use as a cue to budge up next to her on her sofa to have a closer look at her phone. Perfect. We're touching legs, I've got my arm around her sometimes - it's the little things that make me happy.

We continue to show each other photos and stuff, and then I say let's go outside for fresh air. We have a smoke outside and I tell her about my movie that I did last semester, which is my go-to to get a girl back to mine now. I tell her I would love to show her and see what she thinks of it. She says she'd love to see it. We chat some more and then I ask her whether she wants to watch it now. She says she would and asks if I have it on my phone. I said no on my laptop, and she asks how far I live from here. I say 3 minutes and she says OK. We finish our smoke and start walking back to mine, talking more shit and just vibing.

We end up at mine and I show her around a little bit. We say hi to my SPAM who are used to this scene by now haha, and I take her upstairs into my room. We watch the short film I made and then she asks how she can get home. I stay chilled and tell her the final times of the trains and it turns out she's got 20 minutes if she wants to take the train. I'm really not rushed and don't care if she stays here tonight or not. I go for the kiss and we makeout a little bit. She goes to the toilet, gets a glass of water, and comes back and we make out a little bit more and listen to music. She wants to leave and take the train so I say OK let's go. I walk her back to the train station talking a little more and then kiss goodbye at the station.

She adds me on Facebook later, and texts me when she gets home. And just got a text from her now saying good night.




NOTES: One thing to note is that this girl was stiff throughout most of the interaction. She wasn't giving me insane amounts of eye-contact. I find Eastern European girls really hard to read as they are quite held back. I've had my share of eastern europeans and they're all similar. But I am very attracted to their behavior, which is quite cold at times. The best thing is on the outside they are cold, but on the inside they are the warmest girls ever. I wish there were a device which could show you how a girl acts on the outside, and how she feels on the inside.

They can really like you on the inside, but just not show it on the outside.


What to learn: From yesterday, pull the trigger. Be the makeout guy. valleyplaya has it down judging from his log and his advice. Sometimes I get into the headspace of "perfect game" and that I need to spend more time with the girl. When in fact I just need to be making out with these girls fast.

Also if a girl comes to your place and it's quite far, it will definitely lead somewhere.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:09 am 
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Went out to Koko tonight.

My wing, let's call him Uzzie for convenience's sake, and I arrive at 11PM and head straight to the cloakroom where I leave my jacket. The place isn't full yet but we know it'll be packed quite soon.

I brought my flower necklace from the other night as it worked wonders for me that night, and knew it will work wonders yet again. We go all the way up and I open a girl in a 3-set with the same old "What is your favorite color?" She picks purple and I tell her she's the first one to pick purple. I continue chatting with her. She's Scottish and has her own business. I get introduced to the other people. I tell her I need to get a drink and she says OK and they leave. I grab a water.

We go back down and I open another set which I can't truly remember. I ask Uzzie how he's doing and he said he's got one set opened, to which I respond that he should have opened a few more. We wait around a little bit for the place to fill up. I do another one or two approaches, but I feel slightly nervous for some reason. I unstifle myself by shouting "FUCK ALL THESE PEOPLE!" waving both middle fingers in the air and I tell Uzzie to do the same, which he does. I tell him to approach. My goal is to help him out every time he gets stuck, as I also need a good wing who can wing me in a 2 or 3 set from time to time, but he's also committed to getting better having come out with me every single night I was out. He really wants to get better.

I try to get down to his problem, and he says he's afraid of what people might think of him. I start my "coaching" and begin to break it down for him. I also take his wallet from him telling him he needs to do 10 approaches if he wants it back. He understands and I know he does his own thing in his head to get himself out and into state. So I leave him be. We go back upstairs and I approach another set or two, not leading anywhere.

I approach a girl by the railing with my hand stretched out saying "Hi." She responds with her name. I give her mine. We chat and begin the game. I find out where she's from, she asks me where I'm from, heavy kino. At one point I tell her that I have to be honest with her and that I can't stop thinking about kissing her. She backs up, but she stays, asking another question. Got her. Anyway I settle for the number and tell her I'll text her. She was a little old though.

We move back upstairs where we come to a single set sitting down by the couch. I tell Uzzie he has to approach, no matter what. Every approach is a progression and that's all that matters. He does his thing for about a minute or two, battling his fears, and then approaches. It seems to go well. I leave.

I find artfulroger on the dancefloor with his friends just partying and I walk up to him and say hi. He introduces me to his friends and I tell him to come game a little with me. We walk off and I tell him my necklace is a chick magnet. I open a girl in a 4 or 5-set with "What's your favorite color?" and she hooks. I talk for a little bit but the conversation dies down and I tell her I'm leaving and wish her a good night.

We keep walking and a single set stands a few feet away from the bar. I open by pointing my finger at her and say "You." She looks. "What's your favorite color?" She hooks. Game on. I start kinoing harder and just chatting the shit, talking fun and finding out who she is, where she's from, etc. She's from Holland. I ask who she's here with and she replies that she's here with her friends but she lost them. She asks me and I say I also lost my friends. I know I have to go for the kiss at one point but she keeps turning her head away from my face and is quite stiff. Anyway I tell her to come upstairs with me. She replies that her friends are here on the ground floor, but I say she should join me for 2 minutes. She agrees and I grab her hand and lead her upstairs. At this point I think it would be funny if I went to Uzzie and his girl and introduced everyone. I wanted to feel like the master of social dynamics so I lead to Uzzie and he's still with his girl on the couch and it's going well. I introduce Uzzie and Uzzie introduces his chick and I introduce mine. Done deal and I leave him to it, grabbing my girl's hand and going back down.

I grab her number and she gives it to me. I call her phone so she has it and I say I'll text her. I go for the kiss and she complies. We make out. I pull back and she chases, and we make out some more. I then ask her if she's been all the way upstairs, at the very top. She says yes. Threw me off a little and I say "Really?" lol what a pussy line. Anyway I say "I've never been there" trying to set the seed to pull there, but she just laughs haha. Anyway I switch topic and tell her that we go find her friends. We walk a little and then I decide that leaving her would be the best option. I say I have to check on my friend and kiss her goodbye.

I go back to Uzzie and it's still going well so I leave him to it. I decide I will probably leave the club, when I bump into my girl again. She still hasn't found her friends. Anyway more connection time. I tell her she should join me for food as I'm starving, but she says she will stay here to find her friends. I say OK, and tell her she should join me to the cloakroom. She complies and I lead her down, where her friend bumps into us. They talk a little. Her friend asks where she is going, and she says she's going with me lol. Her friend looks a little taken aback, and then my girl says that it's just to the cloakroom. I remain calm and let them have their talk. We go to the cloakroom, friend included. Suddenly two other guy friends join and they say they're leaving. They say goodbye and leave. Lol chodes. I grab my coat and go back to my girl and ask her what she's doing now. She says she's staying. I tell her I'm leaving and that I'll call her (lol how many times do I need to say it!) and we kiss goodbye in front of her friend.

I leave the club and wait for Uzzie to be done with his girl so we can both go home as I have his wallet. He said he k-closed his girl, too, and that he built a deep connection with her which will probably serve well for a Day 2.


Notes: All in all not a bad night. I feel like something wasn't quite right in the beginning, but towards the end it was pretty good when I met artfulroger. It's good to calibrate as you go between sets. Figure out what you're doing wrong and fix it for the next approach. Also just fucking approach. Good things can and will happen.

Don't ask questions about whether she's been to this or that place in the club, just tell her to come with you and lead. Don't be afraid of the make out so much. Be the make out guy.


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Went out to Koko tonight.

My wing, let's call him Uzzie for convenience's sake, and I arrive at 11PM and head straight to the cloakroom where I leave my jacket. The place isn't full yet but we know it'll be packed quite soon.

I brought my flower necklace from the other night as it worked wonders for me that night, and knew it will work wonders yet again. We go all the way up and I open a girl in a 3-set with the same old "What is your favorite color?" She picks purple and I tell her she's the first one to pick purple. I continue chatting with her. She's Scottish and has her own business. I get introduced to the other people. I tell her I need to get a drink and she says OK and they leave. I grab a water.

We go back down and I open another set which I can't truly remember. I ask Uzzie how he's doing and he said he's got one set opened, to which I respond that he should have opened a few more. We wait around a little bit for the place to fill up. I do another one or two approaches, but I feel slightly nervous for some reason. I unstifle myself by shouting "FUCK ALL THESE PEOPLE!" waving both middle fingers in the air and I tell Uzzie to do the same, which he does. I tell him to approach. My goal is to help him out every time he gets stuck, as I also need a good wing who can wing me in a 2 or 3 set from time to time, but he's also committed to getting better having come out with me every single night I was out. He really wants to get better.

I try to get down to his problem, and he says he's afraid of what people might think of him. I start my "coaching" and begin to break it down for him. I also take his wallet from him telling him he needs to do 10 approaches if he wants it back. He understands and I know he does his own thing in his head to get himself out and into state. So I leave him be. We go back upstairs and I approach another set or two, not leading anywhere.

I approach a girl by the railing with my hand stretched out saying "Hi." She responds with her name. I give her mine. We chat and begin the game. I find out where she's from, she asks me where I'm from, heavy kino. At one point I tell her that I have to be honest with her and that I can't stop thinking about kissing her. She backs up, but she stays, asking another question. Got her. Anyway I settle for the number and tell her I'll text her. She was a little old though.

We move back upstairs where we come to a single set sitting down by the couch. I tell Uzzie he has to approach, no matter what. Every approach is a progression and that's all that matters. He does his thing for about a minute or two, battling his fears, and then approaches. It seems to go well. I leave.

I find artfulroger on the dancefloor with his friends just partying and I walk up to him and say hi. He introduces me to his friends and I tell him to come game a little with me. We walk off and I tell him my necklace is a chick magnet. I open a girl in a 4 or 5-set with "What's your favorite color?" and she hooks. I talk for a little bit but the conversation dies down and I tell her I'm leaving and wish her a good night.

We keep walking and a single set stands a few feet away from the bar. I open by pointing my finger at her and say "You." She looks. "What's your favorite color?" She hooks. Game on. I start kinoing harder and just chatting the shit, talking fun and finding out who she is, where she's from, etc. She's from Holland. I ask who she's here with and she replies that she's here with her friends but she lost them. She asks me and I say I also lost my friends. I know I have to go for the kiss at one point but she keeps turning her head away from my face and is quite stiff. Anyway I tell her to come upstairs with me. She replies that her friends are here on the ground floor, but I say she should join me for 2 minutes. She agrees and I grab her hand and lead her upstairs. At this point I think it would be funny if I went to Uzzie and his girl and introduced everyone. I wanted to feel like the master of social dynamics so I lead to Uzzie and he's still with his girl on the couch and it's going well. I introduce Uzzie and Uzzie introduces his chick and I introduce mine. Done deal and I leave him to it, grabbing my girl's hand and going back down.

I grab her number and she gives it to me. I call her phone so she has it and I say I'll text her. I go for the kiss and she complies. We make out. I pull back and she chases, and we make out some more. I then ask her if she's been all the way upstairs, at the very top. She says yes. Threw me off a little and I say "Really?" lol what a pussy line. Anyway I say "I've never been there" trying to set the seed to pull there, but she just laughs haha. Anyway I switch topic and tell her that we go find her friends. We walk a little and then I decide that leaving her would be the best option. I say I have to check on my friend and kiss her goodbye.

I go back to Uzzie and it's still going well so I leave him to it. I decide I will probably leave the club, when I bump into my girl again. She still hasn't found her friends. Anyway more connection time. I tell her she should join me for food as I'm starving, but she says she will stay here to find her friends. I say OK, and tell her she should join me to the cloakroom. She complies and I lead her down, where her friend bumps into us. They talk a little. Her friend asks where she is going, and she says she's going with me lol. Her friend looks a little taken aback, and then my girl says that it's just to the cloakroom. I remain calm and let them have their talk. We go to the cloakroom, friend included. Suddenly two other guy friends join and they say they're leaving. They say goodbye and leave. Lol chodes. I grab my coat and go back to my girl and ask her what she's doing now. She says she's staying. I tell her I'm leaving and that I'll call her (lol how many times do I need to say it!) and we kiss goodbye in front of her friend.

I leave the club and wait for Uzzie to be done with his girl so we can both go home as I have his wallet. He said he k-closed his girl, too, and that he built a deep connection with her which will probably serve well for a Day 2.


Notes: All in all not a bad night. I feel like something wasn't quite right in the beginning, but towards the end it was pretty good when I met artfulroger. It's good to calibrate as you go between sets. Figure out what you're doing wrong and fix it for the next approach. Also just fucking approach. Good things can and will happen.

Don't ask questions about whether she's been to this or that place in the club, just tell her to come with you and lead. Don't be afraid of the make out so much. Be the make out guy.
I need to get one of those colorful flower necklaces. It sounds like that shit works wonders.


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