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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:05 am 
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First of all, women like players, they just don't want to admit it. Why would they want to be with a loser that has no social value?

If in a LMR situation she says "no I can't, you're a player," it's not because she won't sleep with you because you're a player, she is afraid she will feel like a slut and that you are only using her for sex. While in make-out zone say stuff like 'wow, you have such a great energy to you' or 'It's weird, I feel like I've known you a lot longer,' escalate with something like 'this is torture trying to hold back.'

Remember to keep her stimulated and go 2 steps forward, one step back. Don't hold your hand on her breast for too long at the start and break off the make-out periodically to keep tension and preserve comfort. Never argue or beg or plead if she says no, just back up 15 minutes and work your way to that same situation again. If she is persistent then just break off, get some water, take your time, and come back and start over. Remind her how special she is (not being corny) and how comfortable you feel with her. I pretty much did all this with a HB7 on Friday night, who I went from meeting to sex in 1 hour blowing down her levels of LMR. (And remember, she probably wants to sleep with you, she just doesn't want it to be too easy).

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its true - women want socially active "players". they just want some sort of comfort so they dont feel like a whore. I GET CALLED A PLAYER EVERY FUCKIN DAY. Here is my line and it always works...

"I am NOT a player. Players are Liars and users. (they always agree at this point). To the contrary, I am honest and upfront that I am not seeking a relationship, but I will show you the time of your life. period."

has never failed me.

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Thats a real good one.. I use something similiar:

That would make me a liar, which Ï'm not. I can't help being so attracted to you, thats not my fault. And you know you like me (said while seriously stimulating her physically, kissing, kissing ear, hopefully rubbing an erogenous zone) and there is nothing wrong with that. That is ok. That is fine.


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Need more info. Had you already K-Closed? If so, then I would have kissed her again as a good method of stopping her from talking, then smile at her. Ignore her comment about you being a player and her a slut. That's not the frame you want to be in at that stage. After a moment of not saying anything, I would lean in and whisper in her ear "I find you irresistible." and then kiss her neck.

That takes you into a whole new frame, and you can build from there. Having a conversation about who is a player and what it means to be a slut and whether it is correct to define each of you as being a player/slut is not really a place you want to be when you are tying to F-Close.

It's a shit test that you have to pass.


If you hadn't already kissed her, then that's a whole different story. It's still a shit test, but you pass this one by kissing her. I'd probably smile at her, look down at her lips, back up at here eyes and ... you know the rest.
Nice, I think something like this would really work a fkn charm. I believe whenever a chic pulls a LMR, as stated above, she just doesn't want to come across as being too easy a piece of ass in your eyes and all she's seeking for is a reconfirmation from u that u understand this.

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I'd interrupt her sentence w/ a finger on her lips and a "sshh..."
-> move really close so that she can feel my breath on her skin
-> say something like "don't say that... cus it's not true....u'r not a slut/I don't think ur a slut, not at all"
-> eye-lips-eye-kiss or neck-kiss
and I'd just ignore the "player" comment, she's just tryin 2 get u worked up, if u try 2 explain urself u'll just validate her statement

If she still fkn resists, I'd chuck a "freeze-out" described above.


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yeah i have noticed how the "P" word fucks you up. mates are the worst to give it to you though, once they have seen you hook a few girls in one night they think its alright to shout out across a room or club for weeks afterwards "PIMP", or "PLAYER", "SLUT", obviously in a good hearted way which you would gladly accept if you werent talking to nice girl who you have already kclosed, who starts interogating you and giving you the "im not a slut" routine.
when it happens, what iv found is the best way to deflect the confrontation is to pretend it never just happened if she lets you, apologize if she doesnt, look her in the eyes give her your most sincere look, and start telling her how beautiful she is and compliment her on the nice little things she has but nobody usually notices, with out being cheesy of course, and not all at once and not before Kclose. should work a treat.


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"The diamond between your legs is not something i wish to take from you; it's something I wish to get through before we continue to more important things."

Honestly, HONESTLY, i've never gotten LMR (which SUCKS because i have no practice, just theory) so i can only give you ideas that i've had not the chance to test yet. :(
You gotta get out there and start practicing!! You can read all the books in the world, watch all the tapes, but until you practice and learn what you need to work on, its useless. Trust me..Its not easy, and I'm in the same position as you, but talking to girls is becoming more and more easy now..

What exactly is LMR by the way?

I think that I read in "The Game" that you can say something like
"What!! Your Not!? Thats what the manual said....(playful smile)
Something along those lines...


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this happened to me the other night,
it was my buddy's sister, we were at a club, we'd fooled around before but he's pretty protective. Anyhow I decided I wanted to make out with her a bit and kinda brought her off and she led me into this corner and starting giving me the "you're too mysterious/you're a player/my brother says to watch out for you" and of course shes right, but I was simply too powerful to be denied at that point. I wasn't forceful or angry, not at all, I was just an animal. I couldn't be reasoned with, I was laughing and joking and being very playful and disarming. Guys, don't be fooled by this age old LMR technique, girls love to be naughty. You just need to disarm them, be like a playful dog that won't quit. Just be able to judge if shes really serious about something.

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May I add my own two cents?

You see, I befriended a guy who was naturally good with women - VERY good even...and he taught me many things. He basically braught me up into the game before I've even heard of the community's existence.

One day, I asked him for advice because there were two girls I liked and talked to - but they found out and called me a player. I feared getting a reputation..and he taught me one of the most valuable lessons on reputation, being called a "player"...

Here's a lesson on female psychology:

- If you had so many women, other females will think there most be something about you that makes you so desirable...why would all those
women otherwise want you? It feeds her curiosity, and a dirty motivator is also at play here: we want what everyone else is having, the human drive of competition my friend: the grass is always greener on the other side, and she wants to lay in it, play in it, make love in it...

- If you had so many women but DON'T want her, they automically assume that there must be something wrong not with you but with THEM: all of us have a tendency to identify ourselves as the cause of the problem as soon as love and attraction come around the corner..."no it's all my fault honey, no really, I'm so sorry" while you didn't do any friggin' thing, it's the typical relationship fight, friend. She will want to know why SHE isn't an object of your desire while all women seem to be, maybe she is less of a woman?

And because of these reasons, whether they think it consciously or subconsciously, they secretly actually want to find out...find out A)WHY you are so attractive to other women, B) if they can tame you and have you all to themselves (every woman's fantasy: taming the badboy) and C) WHAT'S the reason for you turning them down..

So really, I would laugh if she said it...

As a sidenote: if you try to explain yourself, she will feel that you need to PROVE her wrong...prove her otherwise...so that she's actually right. Laughing about it lets her know: you think it's ridiculous, and so will she. You want to disarm HER, not defend yourself...because defense means guilt in a woman's mind...think about it :wink:

So the majority of the times, I smile when I hear of my reputation..because I know the effects :wink: and when I really sense a lot of anger on the spot? I laugh, and tell her don't be silly...you'd be surprised about how many women will think differently about you afterwards..


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just what eX-O said...mystery says when she says somethin like that just say ok and stop doing anything physical with her and do somethin else...watch tv, act like your goin to sleep, go on the computer...whatever...but while your doin this make sure she can tell that your not pissed or butt-hurt or anything and your totally fine whether you get laid or not then she should come to you...but the key is that she can see that you honestly dont care either way...I had this exact same situation last night but i didnt press it she honestly seemed like a good girl and i probably woulda felt bad for doin anything...plus shes already being super clingy so probably better that i didnt


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Dude, you said it right, it was LMR, and as such, just give her a NON REACTIVE answer showing your WILLINGNESS TO WALK AWAY

back up, tilt your head sideways, look deep into her eyes and crack up a small teasing smile, and open your arms, let her fall in on you

almost every HB will opose you with LMR, if you haven't invested enough time on the attraction, confidence and seduction phases, but it's disbandable

remember, non reactive and willingness to walk away

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answer with soem cocky and funny..c&f is used to lower the anti slut defence...say somethign like "a player??....mm i guess u can say that..after all i do play baseball" or somethign liek thator "i am a player...a basketball player"..whatever fits u


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