Those weren't negs... they were insults. Nobody is going to respond well to insults. Odds are that they were laughing at you, and not laughing with you.

A better way to go about it might have been:

HB: "My ass is so fat!"
PUA: "Maybe it's just the pants? I've got the same ones, and I don't like how I look in them either."

If they didn't thank you for holding the door open, I would have to agree with the "You're welcome, ladies." Just because they don't show common courtesy is no reason that you shouldn't.

Keeping in mind i'm still a RAFC, but I've had some good success recently.

What about just...

HB: My ass looks fat!
PUA: That's not NECESSARILY a bad thing

It's a neg, but it's disguised by the fact that you said there's a possibility it's not a bad thing, just not necessarily to you.

as for the door thing I don't really know what to think, i might have just opened the door and held it reaching back with my body facing out into the parking lot (i tend to do it this way anyways). That way I'm just being a gentleman...not showing an IOI. It shows you have class and doesn't betray you with the IOI. In this way I'm already positioned to open a moving set (in front or close beside on the same trajectory). From there it's game on.

If I did really want to throw a neg for some reason it wouldn't have been that harsh. Yea, it feels great to bust a babe for being uptight (hell i had to do it to a 7 i turned down months ago -who thinks she can treat anyone like shit- last night) but it's not gonna get you any closer to the final destination. I don't think I would have gone back to her ass either... never talk about a womans looks. I'm thinking cocky funny, or even IOIing the HB 8 (she probably doesn't get all that much of the 1st picks since she's not as hot, and that will acomplish 2 goals - winning over the obstacle and jealousy from the target) would have been a better move.

Maybe
Open the door, look the obstacle in the eyes and say : If she wasn't with you I wouldn't be opening this door. (with a smile on your face so they know you're joking)


Like I said, I'm still a RAFC - this is how I'd go about it. I'm interested to hear some good response to this one, because none of them so far have sounded great to me.