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Been hanging out with the gf today. She was in a bad mood once again, something to do with her mom. Anyway, I recently watched a video by Tyler Durden and he explains relationships quite well in it. I'll post it below. One thing that stuck with me was that some girls will drop little poisonous statements in their everyday conversations with you in a relationship, to put you down. They do it subconscously, but they want to control the relationship, control you. My girl is like that. She tries to control a lot. I notice that when I seek affection, attention or any of the sort, she feels more dominant. And it is so fucking funny, when I really don't seek it, she comes to me automatically and becomes the little girl.
Today she really kind of pissed me off, but instead of getting angry, I just withdrew my attention and focused on other things. We went looking for sunglasses, and it's amazing to see what withdrawing attention from her and removing all neediness does to her. She kept asking me why I'm in a bad mood in a little girly way, and she kept trying to kiss me and "win me back". She kept apologizing for being in a bad mood and putting me in a bad mood.
Anyway I took her to the station and told her to have a safe trip. She didn't want to leave because she felt SO bad. The reason I was a little pissed was because she wasn't completely "with" me when she was with me. Not all of her attention was with me, she was so thoughtful, and unfortunately this has happened a little too often. When I'm with her, or any girl for that matter, I try to be focused and attentive. And she isn't like that at times, and today has been a great learning lesson. Removing attention is the way to go. Lowering emotional investment is unfortunately the way to go.
Another thing that bothers me is that she still sometimes makes statements or remarks about past lovers. Not consciously, but sort of fleetingly. For example when she came to my place she said it's funny that I live here because she's been here so many times. I asked her why and she hesitated and then just said, "errhhh just randomly" as if she remembered not to talk about past lovers. The other day she initiated a "sex truth or dare" and we only played truths, with questions about former sex acts involved. Damn I didn't like it one bit, and made it clear to her the next day. She felt real bad yet again for causing me to be in a bad mood or hurt in any way. Fucking bitch is all I have to say at times.
Such a moody person, so much shit going on in her life, even her friends know her as a moody person. She says she is grateful for every moment she spends with me, but in the moment it doesn't seem like it. She takes it for granted, and yes that is my fault for being a little needy and too available. Which is why the punishment/reward dynamic is being introduced now.
It's about time I punish her with ignorance for bad behavior (bad in this sense being that she doesn't show me affection, is in a bad mood with me or around me after I have tried to cheer her up somewhat, etc etc.) and reward her for femininity and sexuality. Fuck this emotional shit. Fuck this neediness. Fuck this lovey dovey shit. It's time to regain the upper hand here.
Tr@v, good post. Unfortunately I have encountered situations like these too many times in the past. They are, in essence, exactly what made me game the way I do today. I agree that neediness and being too available will, in some way, equate to your gf as her being the dominant one in the relationship. It's unfortunate that, in many relationships, partners feel they must be in control. I know this is very common and is a reality of life, but I don't think it's ideal or even healthy really. This is the biggest reason I am so anti-relationship. When you're so carefree to the point where you are
truly carefree, you can have the best time with girls. And even if they don't like the way you won't commit to them, fuck it. She won't hurt that bad once she realizes you're not the beta dude she wants you to be, and you won't hurt at all. I think that there shouldn't be a need for punishment/reward in an ideal relationship. I also think an "ideal" relationship is extremely hard to come by. I would advise staying away from relationships altogether. You life will be fucking awesome when you have several girls and don't really care about any.
Thanks for your post vp. The thing is I find this relationshit shit so interesting. Haven't been in one before and yes of course it feels good to say I have a gf on one hand. On the other hand I also want to use any and every opportunity to learn about women/girls and a relationship is a part of that. I want to get experience in all areas women, and yes, I know not everything is dandy in this relationship, but I'm taking it right now because I want to get the experience. I have really removed some attention and my phone is blowing up with texts from her right now. She's seeking validation big time, and I'm not really giving it to her. Only like nitro. Anyway, I agree that not caring is the way to go, but I do enjoy the moments of extreme neediness that we have at times haha, and the sex is great. I want to really expand my sexuality with this girl, and already have in many ways. Done things I have never done before, which is awesome.
Anyway, will keep you posted on how it goes.
Tr@v, I fully support that then. I wasn't aware that this was your first relationship. How old are you btw? If you're around my age (24), you truly are a lucky man, to have been able to handle your first relationship when you are mature enough and when you know of game. You have no idea how much I wish I could have known about the game when I had my first relationship. Would have made everything a lot easier.
But enough of that. I think that's great that you're trying to gain experience in every realm of female. That's the best way to truly learn game in my opinion.
I just wanna add one little tip of mine, which may or may not work for you (but which will probably help a lot). (I should add that it sounds like you've been doing this when you've been talking to random girls; but remember, it works wonders for the girls you're seeing/dating too.) My tip is to
say anything you fucking want. The reason why I write this, is because I've found that you make such a better partner/bf when you just have
no filter and pop off whatever pops into your head. Not that you necessarily are any better of a partner in reality, but your girl will find you so much more interesting that it'll be a lot harder for her to find guys that can match that same level. And when I write say anything, I mean say
anything, anything at all that pops into your head. Tell her she's fat. Tell her she's a whore. Tell her you're insecure. Tell her you're going to start fucking fat girls because of it and if she doesn't watch, you'll throw a drink in her face in front of her family members and then make a move on her mom and every other fat female in her family. (Also, always be extremely cocky. Literally talk of yourself around her as if you're a god.) If you get into this mindset and start finding more amusement in the (ridiculous) things that you say than you do in your girlfriend and her behavior, you very well may begin to forget about all the bullshit that she does to annoy you.
On a secondary note, when you really adopt this no-filter, don't-give-a-fuck mentality, it almost, in a way, makes your girls
afraid of you. Not like in a weird, abusive type of way obviously. But in a way that she can pick up that you're not someone to fuck around with, that if she does something you don't like, you'll walk; that if she isn't up to par, you'll walk; that if she's boring you, you'll fucking walk. I call this characteristic "going Mad Man". When you go Mad Man, you truly just don't care. You're in
your world, and she's in
your world. Everybody is in
your world. I think this is kind of why, if you've ever watched RSD Julien's highlights, he does so well in those clips: he really is just out for his own amusement and everybody else is merely a reactant to it--they like it or they don't, no difference because you're too concerned with yourself.
Try this out and see if it helps out. Remember that you always got dudes backing you (ideally in person) but also your fellow PUAs on the forum. I'm sure many of us have been in similar situations, and, though it may be hard to believe, our advice really may help.
Hope it helps, homie.
P.S. Try also to amp up your body language. Become
extremely animated and loose (think Tupac, Chris Brown, Ash Stymest, or even borderline tweeker) and be passionate in the way you speak and act. If you want to gain control, start doing whatever the fuck you want to do. Remember that
you're the Pick-Up
Artist, not her.
You're the star, not her. No matter what you do, no matter what happens,
YOU win. Accept that you can do literally no wrong. Be unapologetic for an entire week. Be a complete fucking dick (in a cool way preferably). But, most of all, truly act and
be completely animated, completely unfiltered, completely self-absorbed, completely not-give-a-fuck. This girl is just a girl, and that's that. Remember.
You're the star. She's merely (one of) your canvas(es).
And when you start to falter from all the advice you're picking up online, catch yourself and force yourself to trust in it. It WON'T steer you wrong, even though, in the heat of the moment, you may find yourself believing it will and abandon it. Also, remember to smile (not in a fake way--if you don't feel like smiling, then don't) as much as you can. What I mean by this, is, if you can truly start to find amusement in the things you say and the things you do, you should be smiling naturally. Become a complete jackass (what I call a carefree, happy-go-lucky, say-whatever-and-do-whatever-he-wants-to-do type of dude). Try all of this out if you want and let me know how it works.