Hey guys,

So this is part III, this was the first date (required reading): field-reports/dont-kiss-the-first-date-vt197512.html


So recently I asked her on SPAM, how she felt when we were holding hands, and her response is " Okay, I was surprised, I recently got out a long relationship and I want to take it slow, and get to know you first".

To reiterate, she is a virgin, who only had one bf in her life, she is 22.

Then I replied, " How much slower can we go?"

Fast forward today when I asked her out to go to Stanley Park, she said yeah meet me at mcdonalds (wont let me pick her up from her house). I said five and she was like she can take a day off to chill with me.

Ok so now we need to figure out how to build a romantic connection?

• I am going to learn one of the romantic speed seduction patterns (yes I have used them before and they are sort of effective)
• What you guys recommend I do?

I already bought her skittles on the first date, she knows I like choc chip cookies so that will be a test to see if she will bring me some, I dont think I will buy a rose or gift.

We need to build a connection here.....

Should I say "my leg hurts - dont feel like walking" and just bring her to my place to stream something on my laptop? My objective is to get her used to kissing me ("I dont kiss on the first date")..

Its nectaring season.

I will post a field report after the date I promise...

Oh yeah no verbalizing anything!! lol

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Something that you need to quit doing and that is talking so much about how she feels. Your allowing her to verbalize emotions instead of going with them. Asking how she felt when you held her hand didn't do anything for you accept get her to tell you that she wanted to slow down. Before that point, she held your hand and no problem existed. She has shown she will follow your lead when you don't give options.

Quit probing her emotions and just create them.

Streaming a movie sounds like a good plan. If you want to test out if she will follow your lead, dont use the hurt leg excuse and just say that you guys are going back to yours and watching a movie.

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Fuck I got FRiendzoned!!!!


"I just want to make it clear to you that I dont want to get into a relationship right now, and I just want us to be friends"


Guess I am done.

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This is where you went wrong, IMO. You made a lot of steps that were permission and validation seeking. Seduction is emotionally driven and when you try to mix logic in the moment you allow for women to make logical decisions. You hold hands with a girl...don't ask her how she feels about holding your hand afterward. You want to kiss a girl...don't put it out there that you want to kiss. Just lead her to each and every move.

I hope you have the intestinal fortitude to not contact this girl.

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So no way to get out the FZ? Maybe I will keep her as a friend since I do not have any female friends.

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I'm trying to give Halle Berry a baby and no one can stop me!!!!

Move on. If you try to keep her has a friend, you're going to be secretly wishing she changes her mind about you and end up as an orbiter. "I need to fuck this girl!!!" is what you said, so don't try to fool yourself into thinking of her as just a female friend.

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