I used Herbal's "Dating For Dummies" opener at borders a few days before Christmas with pretty good success on a HB 8.5. I sat upstairs at the in-store cafe, actually reading the book for about 20 minutes when finally this beautiful doe started looking at post cards about 12 feet away. She must have just walked in the store because it was the first time I had seen her.

I quickly flipped back to page 86 where the openers are. I walked up to her holding the book out in front of me so that she could see what it was. To help break the ice and add to the absurdity of the situation I was creating, I was wearing a pretend nervous look on my face and I spoke slowly and softly to her as if reciting from the book, "so, do you come here often?" She sort of laughed and made some remark I forgot. I moved to the next line and recited it also, "what's your sign?" She told me hers was Leo. I said I didn't know what month that was, sort of laughing and still maintaining a sort of embarrassed and shy look. She said it was August, and I replied, "oh cool, mine's virgo, that's right after yours; September! This stuff works great, now it's your turn!" And I held out the book for her. Now it was her who was embarrassed. She began giggling and wouldn't take the book.

I dropped the shy/embarrassed persona and let her play that role. I changed my face to a mischievous grin and started laying real material on her with the confidence that comes from doing this sort of thing dozens of times per week. I gave her the opener I had been using that weekend, "would it be wierd if your brother bought you perfume for Christmas, or would you wear it?" She bites and I stack into a story about how I found out the name of the fragrance that I got for my sister. She introduced herself to me, "I'm HB8.5" and held out her hand. I shook it and gave her my name.

Earlier I had noticed a nearby guy looking over at us from behind her, and he had wandered over to the shelf right next to us. I asked her if she knew him, and she said no, so I held out the "dating for dummies" book and told her how cool would it be if she tried the book on him. She started laughing, and was almost about to do it when a girl walked over and stood next to the guy. So I leaned in close to my target to kino her hair and whisper into her ear, "how long do you think they've been together?" She looks over at them and says, "I'd say about a year." I replied, "yeah, maybe more; they do look kinda comfortable together. You know what would be fun? Let's go find out how long they've been together, then we can have them guess how long we've been together." She was too shy though, and told me she had to get going. I said, "yeah uh I have to get going too.. I have a uh dinner appointment." I made it sound fake, but I really did have a dinner date in about 2 hours. She took the bait and smiled real big at me, "Aww that's so cute, you just made that up!" I said "I guess I can't fool you. It was nice to meet you, HB8.5." I held out my hand. She shook it and said with a big smile, "yeah it was nice to meet you too." That was interesting.. "You forgot my name, didn't you?" HB8.5 changed her smile to a sheepish one and admitted that she had. "Oh, that's too bad," I said and started walking away. She yelled after me, "I'm really bad with names!" I turned slightly and said, "yeah, I usually am too, I don't know how I remembered yours." I left her with a fun story to tell her friends and no contact information.

It was really amazing to me the role reversals that I was able to pull off here. I'm sure I could have number closed her, but I was genuinely disappointed that she didn't remember my name. I guess I wanted to blow her out for that more than I wanted to see her again. I've been on the other side of the name forgetting thing and it sucks, but she asked for my name, I didn't ask for hers. So when she forgot it, that was strike 3 with me. The first two strikes were: 1) her not wanting to have a little fun by talking to the couple standing next to us, and 2) her telling me that she had to leave soon.

She sounds like a generally shy person. I don't typically try to close those type of girls because I know that isn't the type of woman that I like. I tend to go after those that are more social and outgoing. It's awesome that Herbal's Opener worked out that well. Sounds like you played it well, built attraction, and started on comfort a little.

GOOD JOB & NICE POST

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nice work, yea it sounds like she was a shy girl, you said she was going to approach that guy with the book though, maybe you should have set a time constraint early on, cause she ended up making one later and you felt the effects of it it sounds like, when you said you had a dinner date i think you should have said it without adding the fake shyness, if your aren't really shy don't pretend to be, i think it's pretty much always a dlv, yeah fuck that, if it was me i'd be a little bit pissed if she didn't remember my name too, i wish their was a neg or something you could have said right after that

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Great post KingMidas. I find sometimes its more satifsying to reject a girl in certain circumstances, you had full justification for it and im sure you were smiling inside as you made your dramatic exit with the HB shouting after you Fantastic work regardless.

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your fucking creepy keep this shit off this page. you think you got all the answers.

Cold approach daygame means you're creepy? I don't know who you are with 2 posts, but I dunno what you're talking about

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Your not creepy if your confident. Its one or the other, you cant be both!

~kino

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