I've recently started reading The Game. I don't get out very often because of transportation issues, so i have limited areas to practice game. These limitations include : My work, My college.

So no going to clubs yet, for atleast a few more weeks until i can get my drivers licsense (yea, i'm that behind).

First i want to make my motives clear, i'm not looking for a parade of sex and hypnotic ragdoll women, i know it can be done, i don't feel it's right to completely wipe someones mind away (i don't have a problem with people who do, your business is your business). I do like having sincere relations with someone, i'm not looking for a longterm relationship, just some fun time with a girl. Sex will be involved, but i want it to be completely optional and not a one night stand. I want her to remember the good times she had and smile on them, not look at me like some douche who mind washes everyone.

I have some very big goals i wish to acomplish in my life time, most of them are selfless. I feel that the world is dyeing, poverty causing people to starve to death while rich men tower over them, something that has existed for ages. I am very passionant for human life, and i'm motivated to improve the world in one way or another. I overall wish to make the world a better place. to do this i need the ability to manipulate possible compeition, allies, and over all just have the alpha confidence over every human interaction.

I've been practicing a few of the earlier chapters on a target i have at work, i usually pull a few negs when customers approach us like "oh don't mind her, she's crazy" , "you have a-lot of confidence". I'm absolutely awful at openers and i generally can't find a good "trick" to use to win over someones attention. (My skill and major is software engineering).

I will say however i've definitely improved since highschool, as i managed to get a number close on the target after (i actually gave her my number, after she gave an IOI making it clear she wanted it).

Now i believe it was a number close because she texted me first , and here is where i first started to fail, below is the conversation:

Day 1:

Her: Hey Tmoney (my nickname for work) it's Julie lol

me: "you know you must have serious confidence on me, if you call me that ;)"

me: "Although i do love that it says you sent that message 1 hour ago, but i didn't gt that until now. How annoying. -_-

Her: "Heck yea i have confidence in you! So don't let me down (lower than i already am lol) And it's ok, i wasn't expecting a quick reply

Me: "Well Atleast your confidence is well placed!, you don't seem so confident in yourself however.

Her: "exactly!" "so lol? who cares?"

me: Oh comeon now, see it this way, i'm an amazing bagger, and you're an amazing cashier! who could argue? We can rule the world! (at this point i'm feeling abit bad and want to raise her confidence)

Her: "i will rule the world, its my destiny.. in highschool i was voted most likely to take over the world lol

me: "well thats something to be confident about, great, looks like i've got some serious competition 0.o.

her: "oh i see how it is...looks like i'll ahve to kil you before you can gain any power :P"

me: " see something about that response really makes me smile, so you're already a step ahead of me" (here i'm trying to use a confort text)

her: " haha i'm more evil thank you think "

me "oooh really? how do you know what i think? ;)" (this is the killer line, definitely where i lost it)

her: "dude what the heck?? i don't even want to know?

me: "O.O perhaps i should be more concerned on what YOU think" (i'm trying to point the direction of the obiviously mistaken sexual reference error, to her)

her: "what are you talking about now? i'm confused"

me: "lol you got me confussled"

her: "lol"

me: "you stated 'i'm more evil than you think' so i asked 'oh really? how do you know what i think?' "

her "yea and i don't know what you're trying to say"

me: 'ehh another way of phrasing it would be "do you read minds?" does that help"



eventually i managed to change the topic to programming and she told me sweet dreams, but i knew i lost some points on that awful transition.

Day 2:
me: "hey miss evil, tomorrow bill and i plan on meeting up :P when we get a time and place i'll let you know, if you're interested in studying with technology wizards.

her: "cool thanks bro, but ask him first i don't wanna go if he doesn't want me there"

me: "i already told him earlier today that you were interested in joining us. He didn't seem to have a problem with it"

her: "i'm not interested lol, you invited me!"

me: "oh comeon, we both truly know you're interested :P"

her: "no not really.. i don't usually study with people so i thought i'd try it"

me: "it'll be interesting! It'll get us both out of the house and probably make studying easier with multiple brains"

her: "well you guys can't help me with my homework and i can't help you with yours. If i came i'd just put my headphones on and work"

me: "you would be suprised how much people can hlep one anotehr, with or without the same class"

me: "education is not soley based around school. :)

her: "yea but can you help me with organic chemistry?"

me: "i can learn realitively quickly, the very least i can do is get your head thinking. The very existence of another individual makes learning very unique and interesting."

her: "yep true'

her: "well just let me know thursdays are my busy days, so i can't guarantee that i'll come"

me: "and besides, like i said it'll get you out of the house and inot the real world. me as well. there is *gasp more to life than grene shirts and aprons, and classes"

her: "lol i know"

me: ";)" (fail # 2)

her: "stop doing that, it's creepy lol"

me: "*wink* (fail # 3, i couldn't help myself, definitely noted that winks can pull things in directions that can fail if you're not prepared)

her:"seriously stop"

conversation paused for a good 30 mins

me: "hey do all your clases end on may 6 as well? ours do. (herei 'm trying to end it on a better note than creepy nonsense)

her:"no, mine end a week before yours"

me:"well that isn't fair! :O" (not really a neg, but it was an experiment)

her:"we started the semester a week before you guys as well"

me: "huh, interesting, i'd figure with otu two colleges being how they are, they would have the same schedules. I have a friend going there and we plan on working on a project this summer" (a complete lie, i didn't want to reinforce that creepyness)

her "thats pretty cool have fun"

i didn't reply back as i wanted to end the conversation with a reply from her (although at the time of writing this i'm waiting for a reply on bill to send her what times and what place we will be meeting up.)


I'm definitely AFC level without a doubt in my mind. I accept all forms of critism (honestly my self esteem was so butchered in highschool it doesn't matter what you throw at me, i won't be personally offended).

Aside from what i noticed, what did i do wrong? what did i do right? How can i turn this awkwardness around?
I hope any AFC like me will look over this and know what NOT to do in a text convo. I never liked texting anyway..

I appreciate any feedback, i'm new to the PUA mindset. I hope anyone can learn from my lesson and failures, as i have. :)

Hey man,

You've got the right attitude for change... take the criticism and improve with it - don't be offended by it:

My over-arching comment would be that you're coming off as a little bit too wordy, and a little gamey (but it's not even good game...) For example you tried to cold read her as being not-confident for seemingly no reason at all... then you just kept going and going and going and going with a dead topic, trying to transition it into something else --- effectively beating the horse to death until you just simply confused her.

Text less, and make your texts more meaningful. Also, make them funnier, and convey sexual interest without explicitly saying that you're sexually interested.

I'd be shocked if this girl sees you as a dating prospect, currently... You just seem like a study buddy who uses too many emoticons.

Keep at it, man... You'll improve.

Learn how to have emotionally relevant conversation. Every communication exchange between you and the girl should have some purpose. Basically, go find people who are good at texting girls (or at least better than you are), figure out why they're good, and then emulate them. Honestly, with texting, the less the better. You want to keep texting flirty, short, and fun. You DON'T want to build rapport or comfort over text. And there really isn't any reason to text a girl out of the blue unless it's to set up logistics for a meet-up, although if you do, you have to make sure it's value-giving. Here's a text exchange I dug up:

Me (out of the blue): Hey purple pants, I got some free time tonight. Hit me up if you want to play music or grab ice cream or something

Her: Yeah we could do something
Her: I'm just leaving school
Her: Free is always good. Maybe a game? Or some park time? Or jamming would be cool too

Me: I'm still in the lab, should be done in like 30 min, but I need to grab food. Wanna meet me at the school, we'll grab food and go to the park
Me: Bring a frisbee

Her: Meet you at the fish tanks? In creepy old dude alley? Or where?

Me: Yah

Her: Fish tanks. M'k
Her: 30 min

Another time

Me: Some friends and I are doing dinner at hu hot tomorrow at 6, feel free to come along and bring friends!

Her: Perhaps perhaps perrrrrhaps. Just got home from school, so may depend on when I get out tomorrow. Also, I dunno if I mentioned it, buuuuuut I'm poor. Also I may a mtg tomorrow evening. Will keep you posted tomorrow

Me: Word

Her (next day): Ok I do have a meeting tonight. I'm trying to plan a ginormous grad party with a bunch of classmates. Anyway, no huhot for me. I'm having some friends over Friday evening for grilling and painting a corn hole set. You wanna come over Fri?

Me: Thanks for the invite, I would love to but I'm out of town Friday-Sunday. If not tomorrow night, we'll hang next week

Her: Maybe tomorrow night. I have to paint my nails. But we could do something early evening

Me: Well, first things first. Paint your nails, shit will hit the fan if you leave that for later. We'll figure something out for tomorrow.

Her: No they'll get all messed up if I paint them and then go do stuff!

no response from me

Her (out of the blue): *pic* Alligator Snapper says: "Herro!"

Me: *pic* Didn't realize snappers were Asian. Selfie this morning in the vet lab

Her: His words were muffled due to the pole in his mouth
Her: Racist

Me: The lynx's facial expression reflects how I feel about you right now

Her: Is that what that thing is? I thought it was that creepy beast from the Never Ending Story

Me: It is. The never ending story = graduate school

Her: *pic* It's the never ending stoooooorryyyyy
Her: Fa na na na na ana na na an anaaa

Me: Gonna have nightmares tonight

Another time

Me: Just finished, gonna go home and pack / eat. I should be free around 6:30 or so

Her: Okey dokey! Maybe a games a mi casa?

Me: Sounds good, address?

Her: *address* Tan house on west side of street

Me: Got it see ya then

Another time

Her: Did ya make it?

Me: The plane crashed in the Pacific. I'm on a life raft right now

Her: Well shoot. Just don't resort to cannibalism.
Her: Unless they're already dead

Me: Currently catching shrimp with my bare hands

Her: Wait, how did you end up over the Pacific?!

Me: Shortcut

Another time

Her (out of the blue): *pic of her in a dress* Prohibition is dead

Me: Hot

Another time

Me: Just landed back in CO, huzzah! How was the death of prohibition

Her: Twas awesome! Also got to hang with my bestie last night/ this morning. It was great
Her: How was the concrete jungle where dreams are made of?

Me: Well the streets made me feel brand new. And the bright lights are supposed to inspire you.
Me: *pic of a dissected bird* and tweety bird says hi

Her: I'm no doctor, but that bird looks dead

Me: Wow, you guys learned a lot in vet school. I might be joining some friends and watching some of the no game tonight. You wanna join?
Me: Feel free to bring friends too

Her: Where you watching? I gotta be honest, I'm feeling pretty socially exhausted right now. 3 nights in a row is a lot for me

Me: Road 34, no worries if you're tired and want to stay in

Her: I'm tired and want to stay in. But go basketball, and all that!

Me: Will do, take it sleazy

Her: Always

Another time

Her (out of the blue): What are you up to tomorrow night? My friend is helping put on a folk music show at the Downtown Artery - I was thinking of going around 7 if you were interested in joining me

Me: I should be studying for a test Thursday, I'm gonna try to get a lot done these two days and I might be able to go

Her: M'k. Just lemme know. We're heading down to Cheyenne Mtn Zoo tomorrow and should be back around 6

Me: sounds good

Another time

Her: *pic* I just got to stroke a beaver!!!

Me: I'm gonna assume that's not a euphemism

Her: Not a euphemism. Her name was Ginger

Me: She must've dyed her hair

Another time

Me: *pic of a dissected frog* Ribbit

Her: Nope

Another time

Her: We're back! How's your studying?

Me: Good, I should be able to spare a couple hours. See you at the downtown artery at 7

Her: Cool. Sounds good!

There's a bunch more but my fingers are tired from dropping this value bomb on you. Study it, emulate it, and see, texting girls is basically about just being normal and throwing in some fun. Don't focus on this at all, focus more on in person game, master that, and the text game will follow.

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Texting is not a game, Its to fix the meeting and giving updates like hii going out tonight in Sam party you should come and then stop. Try to text her when you busy and let her wait for you.


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Ok so typically i should stay away from texting. This particular girl doesn't like calls, so i'll stick with your guys advice and limit the texting to short, clever meeting up texts.

Thanks, i appreciate the advice!

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