so went to a strip club with a non pua friend last night .. probably the worst wing you could have in the field as the guy doesn't understand game (as you'd expect) and talks incessantly which puts you off just as you want to open.

went to an upmarket regular bar nearby (upmarket London restaurant bar) first .. not really my scene but my friend is sort of a high roller city guy .. so I thought what the heck. I haven't been to this sort of venue in a while, but there was an assortment of high net worth girls with boyfriends (aka providers ,credit : tyler), what I would guess to be high end escorts (not my bag) and girls 19-23 who were out with parents (high net worth) .. the third group was most appealing to try and hit it off with. I opened a mother of a couple with a hot daughter with a situational opener .. smile .. reciprocated .. then asked simply 'special occasion'? turns out they were tourists from the states with their daughter .. I then spoke to the father and joked about how he was 'treating the two women in his life' .. went down fairly well. Then spoke to the daughter .. straight into conversation .. DHVing with talk about my job in the city, trading markets .. was hoping to isolate but they got called to their table (they were waiting at the bar before tables opened up). Figured this set was over ..wasn't too bothered about it ... walked out of the bar with my mate who wanted to go to this stripclub. On the way out saw a stunning 19/20 year old girl walking in .. breezed past ... mind froze and wasn't sure how to handle a moving set going in the opposite direction ... was annoyed at myself for not opening somehow. she was cute. any tips in this area I would appreciate big time as this happens a lot.

Ok, so now go into the stripclub .. sat down at the bar ... girls aren't allowed to approach guys sitting at the bar so they have to queue until a guy gets up or they are called over .. thems the rules! So three or four of these girls queue up .. I got a round in for my mate and myself, I think my friend must have said something to one of them so they had their opportunity to come over ... they peeled off and a tall brunette girl came over to me. She was probably in the top three best looking girls in the club and I had without giving the game away watched her body language beforehand with the other girls .. she was the 'queen' (powerful female in the group), experienced at this game and looked confident.

The first thing she said was .. shall we sit down ... i replied by saying .. i think ill stand up actually .. ive been sitting down all day at work (didn't want to show compliance & wanted to separate myself from all the regular punters who want to get as close as possible, credit: mystery) .. she hesitated, bit confused .. and came back with .. i think ill sit down anyway ive been on my feet all day ... i smiled and said sure. She then tried to go into the stripper routine .. she then sort of wiggled her massive jugs at me and said something along the lines of 'what are you here for' in that classic stripper way) ... i completely ignored her doing this, looked a little bored (credit mystery), looked in her eyes and glanced all over the place. Replied 'i'm here with a friend who wanted to come here after dinner (pushing the responsibility onto him for me coming to the bar .. again trying to separate myself from all the other punters) ... she obviously asked then where did you go ... i started DHVing 'up the wazoo' (credit mystery AGAIN .. strip club game episode from VH tv show) .. told her the place I went which would impress most into this sort of thing in London (made up that I had dinner not just gone to the bar for a quick drink largely because I don't really don't want to pay 35 quid for a main). Then again DHVing up the wazoo .. started talking about Japanese culture as I transitioned from the restaurant id been to. Started to impress with knowledge of customs etc .. at that point the stripper frame was broken. I kept rolling in and out (mystery), more playing with the concept than anything else to see how it worked. Then I 'snipped and stacked' .. asked why the club was like a 'ghost town' .. said i hadn't been for a long time and that when i used to come in the old days .. a few years ago it was packed with people ... laughed about how back in the day & when times were good .. how different it looked to now (demonstrating i knew how this stripclub thing worked and how i wasn't green) .. she interestingly even said 'you seem to know how this whole thing works).

At this point things were going well ... I had DHVed to the point where that balloon was so full it could have burst ... so I wanted to build comfort .. luckily she moved the subject onto where I lived .. showing some interest outside of regular stripclub 'sex talk' banter ... I told here and she actually lives not too far away .. she started talking about where she goes for coffee and lunch etc etc .. general lifestyle talk. Comfort went GREAT.

Then lightbulb in the head went off .. start qualifying buddy ... so I said to her ... 'what do you do with yourself in the daytime' .. she replied by saying some mundane stuff .. then a ligtbulb went off in her head and she flipped into talking about how she does modelling work ... trying to impress. I wasn't going to fall for that AFC trap ... so looked decidedly unimpressed ... I then asked 'what do you want to do in the future' .. she talked about her dreams of doing some business ... i fucked up here as I should have shown some more positivity around this and qualified this dream. I gave some vague talk about how I reckon she could make X work and Y would be tricky (fell into my habit as a former stock analyst of actually doing post it valuation work in a blasted strip club... DOH!).

Ok, so about 25-30 mins had passed, flew by actually, so now we were nearing the end and I was thinking about closing .. but floundered a bit picking between two or three closes for a number close .. for perhaps coffee or lunch on a weekend (she clearly had not much to do during daytime but worked nights) .. was thinking of asking her something along the lines of 'when do YOU want to take me for lunch to X place' (one of the places we both said we went to earlier in the convo). The frame was broken back to stripper mode and she said something along the lines of 'ill come back later and maybe I can give you a dance' .. I said sure and smiled. Later in the night I saw her again, she smiled but I blew past with a cursory hi .. I assumed Id see her once more but didn't get the chance. Actually, something kicked off outside shortly after this (I think a massive fight ... and there were about 5 police vans on the scene so it seemed an opportune moment to leave .. ironically the old chesnut 'did you see the fight outside' would have been a valid opener for once!

Question: Do I go back to the club and try and close this .. as I think Id genuinely done 90% of what needed to be done and I think chances were good for a number close ... or would going back again be DLVing ... and look desperate? If you reckon I should go back .. how long to leave it .. and how to play it would be helpful.

Cheers guys.