Hi guys. I’m new here, and thought this would be a great place to get some feedback from some experts.

Basically this is how the interaction went down:

I’m at the gym finishing up my workout and a bunch of cheerleaders are sitting down in the hallway. As I leave the gym someone gives me a tip that it’s one of the cheerleader’s birthday, and that I should tell them it’s my birthday. I walk up to them wearing what looks like boxer shorts. I tell the girls it's my birthday, it isn’t, but I I thought it would be a good conversation starter. One girl said it was her birthday, all of them said happy birthday to me. A couple other girls suspected I was lying, so I said ‘Yeah, It’s not really my birthday. Caught me!’ (I felt this was bad probably because it made me look like a liar) I feel like I should have said ‘It’s not really my birthday, but it feels like it with all these beautiful girls around.’

After that, a girl asks me if I’m a boxer, and I’m like “no, I’m a body builder in training.” Which isn’t true either, but I am trying to build muscle. I felt I looked more like a boxer because my gym clothing on, maybe I should have played along with the boxer theme and made a joke?

One of them said, “well that’s fine, just as long as you don’t take those steroids. They shrink your balls.” And I said “Yeah, not just that, they also give you really bad acne” (I do have acne, but I don’t take steroids.)

I asked them what they’re doing and if they have any new moves they’ve been practicing, they said that they have a game tonight and asked me if I’m going to watch, I said something like “sure, why not.” I asked which girls I could sit in between when the game’s going on, and a couple girls chuckled, so I thought maybe I’m not doing so badly after all.

So a silence starts to ensue and I decide to ask their opinion on something, I said to the girls “Let me get your opinion on something, who do you think cheats more, men or women?” And all of them were like men, yadda yadda yadda. I felt that was short lived so I decided to break into a story about a girl at school. I had a 5 minute conversation with her and then tried kissing her, she told me “no, I have a boyfriend.” I apologized and she was really cool about it. Later I called her and left a message, her boyfriend called back threatening to beat me up. I told them how stupid I thought it was for someone to say that over the phone , because it’s illegal to make threats. One of them was like “So are you saying you like women with boyfriends?” I said “well I’ve tried to get with women who have boyfriends.” I thought it was a mistake to branch the conversation in that direction, but I was desperate for topics.

I thought maybe I could make things feel a little less serious and more fun, so I asked "Does anyone here know how to do gangnam style?". Some of the girls were like 'Yeah, we can do gangnam style!' (something to that effect) So I put my hands out like you do in gangnam style and she got beside me and were doing gangnam style! (not for very long) I thought I’m dancing pretty good. Anyway, two of the cheer leaders took a picture with me which I didn’t ask for. I felt like my stay was overdo shortly after that, and as I was leaving a cheerleader handed me a piece of garbage saying “Can you throw this away for me?”, I said “no, I’m not throwing that out” She was like “but you’re going to walk that way anyway” in a kind of whiney voice, I responded “I’m not throwing that out. I’m not your garbage man.” She complained in a negative tone, I didn’t hear exactly what she said. As she went over to throw out the garbage, she told my brother, “Your friend is weird.”

If anyone read all that, thank you, you are awesome. I know I probably made A LOT of mistakes, but please understand this is my second time going up to a large group of women, there were about 12 cheerleaders and many of them were attractive. I felt there were times where I had nothing to say, up to 30-45 seconds. Over the entire interaction, my brother was nearby and saw what was happening, he thought I looked like a clown and thought they were laughing at me, not with me.

Any ideas what I could have done better? I felt I made a lot of mistakes; maybe I should have smiled a little when saying I wouldn’t throw that piece of garbage out. I think I came off a little giggly and goofy during the event. Based on the events, do you think my brother was right? That I was a goofy, unattractive, and and seemed like I was trying too hard? What could I have done to have a better interaction?

First of all, kudos for approaching them. Approaching large groups of girls takes balls.

Now, from reading this story, it felt like you were too desperate. It's not YOUR job to always find something to talk about. Doing this, you are simply entertaining them (hence why your brother thought you were looking like a clown).

The gagnam style or whatever you call that was too much. If you find yourself in a situation when you have nothing to say, why would it be your job to find something to talk about? In that situation, you could've said something like "Hey, if you don't talk in the next 10 second, I'll think your boring! I thought cheerleaders were fun to be around!" with a big smile on your face. That should pull their trigger and could start a new conversation.

However, you don't want to talk with large group of girls for a long period of time. Talk with the group for a couple of minutes until they "accept you" in the group, and once you're there, just focus on 1 or 2 girl and that's when you can start gaming her. Don't game her for too long, so just leave after a while and ask for a number (" hey it was nice talking to you! Let me grab your number and maybe we can talk sometimes") or anything else, basically.

Anyways, good start

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Dear Optimist, Pessimist & Realist,

Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

Thanks for the reply.

Good line. I probably had the chance to say the that to at least one of them, and it would have made it a lot easier to come up with things to talk about. I was spending too much time trying to entertain the group, and it probably came off as trying to be accepted by the group; What I was really doing was hoping to impress the group enough to help increase my status, and maybe make one want me, it felt like that could have worked with one of them, but with chubbier one in the group (not my preference). I imagine it shows more decisiveness, and less desperate, to out right pick a girl instead of let a girl from the group pick me, and then you actually get a girl you want!

You try your best and you look for feedback+ realize what you did wrong.

You will improve really quickly and become an amazing pick up artist in no time. I wish this forum had more people like you and I will do my best to help you if you have any question. Feel free to PM me if you need anything.

Matt

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Dear Optimist, Pessimist & Realist,

Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

Maybe you could ask your brother to help you split up the group in such situations.