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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:20 pm 
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Ok so me and a good friend have had our heads in and out of books such as the game, mystery method etc for a couple of years now. Also very much enjoyed watching the pickup artist. Since a recent split from my gf i decided to go out and do something about it.

Was planning all last week to drive out somewhere not too close to home and start practicing in the field for the first time, propery with no alcohol.

In summary the night went as follows

got to destination around 9.30 pm and hit a loud bar, felt a bit nervous and anxious but grabbed a couple of soft drinks and scoped out the place. after about half hour my wing opened a single set by the d-floor. nothing wrong, he run the "who lies more routine" and managed to hook her in. conversation lasted about 5 mins. She was polish and where we both use a bit of cockey / funny banter was never really going anywhere due to language barrier although it was just a warm up and he was not attracted to her. at this time I stood unsure weather to join in or try and open my own nearby set? As time went on in there I felt a bit more pressure upon myself which was gradually building up more. There was a lot of hen parties in there and music seemed to loud to open with any material that i had practised, but perhaps i was using that as an excuse not to open??

So we left a bit dissapointed, me especially and also knowing that this was going to be a lot tougher than imagined. We went to another bar / club and stayed in the quiter bar area where it was a bit easier to here our selfs talk. Same again we probably missed a few opportunities, due to feeling some anxiety and pressure. Not long after a two set stood behind us. Nothing great but still a opportunity to open and practice. I engaged one of them (realising that i should have engaged both) and run and opener i read on here previously "If a women has breast implants, does that label her a slut"? managed to hook the pair where my wing also joined in conversation. Everything went well we was all talking to them for about an hour of which we had drinks offered to us and they seemed very much interested. My wing pretty much controlled the set well. Altough we was both not attracted to them he certainly done a good job where as i probably should of got involved more and embrace the practice rather than thinking about not being attracted. A good point I did pick up on was we both once opened, leaned back against the bar area so it appeared the set was working us displaying a bit of DHV.

So we bounced from there to the last club of the evening. a few attractive women in there but the same problem stuck in my head. Its too loud in here to open?? we scoped around near the d-floor where it was louder and more nice women but i had the same excuse in my head?? its too loud to open?? we hung around for a bit then decided to make tracks and go home around 1am.

Overall I guess we done a few good things but i was personally dissapointed myself. my wing was a bit more optimistic but i think i put a lot more pressure on myself to open more sets. Having said that on another good note staying sober was not a problem in the bars but just felt a bit strange near and on dance floor areas?

I had a few sets mainly women but some mixed even approach me saying that I look like a certain celebrity singer. I get it a lot too, He does well with women, hes young, hes successful and very likable. But when im told i look like him, im just not sure what to say or think i need a routine to run? Kind of feels a little over whelming?

Would appreciate any constructive feedback? Seems like the biigest problem is the approach? and for me i think waiting too much for the perfect opportunity that might not even happen? Never the less we will be out again soon hoping to build on this and improve.

thanks for reading.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:16 pm 
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Hi, Dawgfather here, mighty's trusty wing from last night. Very accurate report btw Mighty!!

About me: Im a 27 year old who has had quite good success with women but only ones i'm not attracted to, I've always relied on my looks to get women but when it comes to chatting to hot girls I just freeze and feel a wave of anxiety take me over completely. I also come across as needy and puppy dog with these types of girls like im in awe of them or something!

Anyway about last night with mighty wings, it was certainly a very tough introduction to the game. Although I felt upbeat and in really high spirits at the start of the night, I really tensed up when we hit a lively strip of bars with lots of hot women and loads of alpha guys.

Mighty wings seemed a little bit paralysed and struck by fear and because Im a long time friend I could notice this however I don't think others would have noticed this at all and this is was I was attempting to reinforce to him. I explained that I felt equally paralysed but was trying to fake it, by laughing smiling and being generally talkative.

I think a massive factor in my poor performance was not knowing what to say, I hadn't really memorised a proper opener and I remain very skeptical about the use of some of these indirect openers, I just can't see how they would work for me. I seem to get quite a few IOI's from women on nights out, lots of proximity so i'm thinking that maybe some direct openers may be better for me??

As Mighty Wings said we do very well when we are in set, we naturally have good banter and are quite witty, we got into one set and had the girls laughing the whole time. Mighty is also one of the funniest guy i've ever met and I think throwing some comedy into his routines would work brilliantly for him.

One question I would like to ask is that in Mystery's Method, Mystery says that replication value isn't sought so much by women but I disagree, I think a man with a high replication value gets a lot of attention, IOI's. There must be a way to use this to your advantage? throwing in an indirect opener just kills the sexual vibe.

Thanks for reading! would be interesting to hear your views? :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:54 pm 
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Following last week's cherry popping experience, Mighty Wings and I decided to hit the clubs again both on friday and saturday night.

I was quite buzzing on the 1st night out and without the aid of alcohol however i struggled to open many sets due to the ball of fear inside of me.

Field Test 2 17/08/2012 (Clapham)

Goals - Go out and have a laugh
- Open some sets if we can

Results- Not a great night. poor crowd out
- Didn't manage to open any sets

Tired from the working week I didn't feel I really delivered here. There was also a very poor crowd, lack of attractive women. I asked one situational opener which was pretty lame to a girl at a table across from where we were sitting from, not good.

Both Mighty and I seem to struggle quite badly with approach anxiety and its probably a case that one of us needs to break the shackles off in order for the other one to progress.

We went to 2 bars in total, and tried to just get comfortable in the surroundings, we didn't approach at all on friday but we are gradually desensitisng to being sober in clubs as we have spent the last 10 years going out and getting trollied.

Highlight of the night - Ain't No Stopping Us - Luther Van Dross established as the song to get us into state

Dissappointment of the night - The failure to open any sets.


Field Test 3 18/08/2012 (Clapham)

Goals - Deliver a rehearsed opener to some sets
- Be confident amongst the attractive girls and alpha guys
- Have fun

Results - Opened 1 solitary 2 set, Mighty Wings opened 3 two sets
- Felt really tired from football and playing in the sun, so energy- very low
- Was moody because again didnt open sets and was tired

I felt bad on my wing last night, I was tired and quite negative towards my efforts. I knew it would be difficult to open but its much harder than I expected/

We started the night driving into clapham, jamming to 'ain't no stopping us' Mighty realised I was tired so he cracked it on and immediately I perked up, I was in a bit of a shit mood cos I was having a bad hair day prior to that.

We headed up Clapham high street to start off at the top and work our way down, got abused by a black guy who accused me of wanting to be a black beckham due to my image. Wasnt best pleased about this and definitely lessed my mood and made me self-conscious, he negged me hard!lol

We started off in the same bar as the previous night but it was awful and we left very quickly. We then headed to a few other bars but didnt get in and Mighty got chatted up by a very strange group of people, a gay guy and two odd girls.

We then hit revo's and realised that there was fair few girls in there. So we stayed and jammed in predominately one spot, I was concerned that this was making us low value!? just two guys waiting for something to happen. Eventually something did happen and Mighty unexpectedly opened a set, It was quite loud though so was extremley difficult to hear what was being said. Not Ideal!! but at least we had an open on the board!

I then opened a set in the smoking area, there was no need to transition from the opener the girls were hooked immediately, these girls were quite strange though and started piping on about drugs and that! not cool, so I delivered 'where's' suzie and we ejected swiftly. I feel like in set im quite good, as I naturally banter and deliver negs in a sarcastic way, Mighty is equally adept at this.

We decided to move elsewhere as the venue peatered out so we headed to a big nightclub in new cross. I felt pretty down and pissed off and tired, I wanted to open far more sets.

In the club, it was busy full of drunks and young girls I spoke to one attractive girl who had a boyfriend and that was it! I had no energy desire or anything. Just couldnt see how girls would respond to my opens. Actually becoming concerned by this now, but hopefully with practice and better rooting of the opener this will improve.

One thing that concerns me is the negative value I feel we are showing in the nightclub, I feel like a typical AFC wallflower standing away from the action, observing! Do not feel that women want to be associated with that but one step at a time, just wanna open sets!!!!


Highlight of the night - The guy that came up to Mighty grabbed his hand and done a dance move on him.

Dissappointment of the night - Feeling down, on the periphery of things, need to work on confidence and being a bit more bold.


Goals for Next Field Test-

Rehearse material - Practice 2 openers root them and be creative, I'm just trying to initiate conversation

Open sets even though I feel AA - Just see what happens, have a massive fear of looking stupid which is what is stopping me at the moment, need to take baby steps to overcoming this

Work on Transition - Make sure it flows nicely and makes sense

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 Post subject: Field Test 5
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:28 pm 
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Okay so this was now the 5th time myself and poster boy had gone out to try and make this shit work.

So we headed up to London eager to improve on last weeks showing.

Didn't have time to produce a field report last week but just to summarise.

* We hit a decent nightspot in London, I approached 5 sets with mixture of situational and canned openers.
*found it very hard to get responses cos was so loud in the club
*bumped into some fellow pua's and spoke to them about our problems, seemed convinced that direct game was way to go

Conclusions

* Realised that I didn't feel to comfortable delivering indirect openers, feel like I want to deliver my game in a more natural way, think gambler's method suits my style more than MM.
* Aiming to use aspects of MM but focus more on natural game.

Poster Boy Analysis

*Seemed very quiet and not enjoying himself, probably a case of needing to desensitise.
*Often deep in thought, which appeared to hamper chances of opening
*Was very upset on way home about inability to open, I attempted to reassure that it isnt an easy thing to do and that a high percentage of guys feel exactly the same

Conclusions

*Need to work on inner game and become more confident on approaching, lose inhibitions

01/09/2012 - Field Test 5, Inside!!

So as per usual, Poster and I rocked up town belting out 'aint no stopping us' to get us into state. London seemed to be manic tonight, took ages to park up due to the paraolympics.

The night started in worry because last time we went london we were hit with a £60 quid fine!! But I tried to keep relaxed and think good thoughts, didnt want to role in the club anxious.

So we rocked up into the club and on the approach I noticed Poster seemed a bit tense, I asked if he was okay and he said he was 'fine' so thought nothing more about it.

I felt a bit nervous going in, the girl with the clipboards r really moody and uptight so I tried to loosen up with a smile, didnt get much response but hey! We rolled in and straight away hit the bar, a nice bar mixed raced bar maid smiled at me and I smiled back, didnt think much of it and kind of avoided eye contact after that.

I had said to myself that tonights goals were to hold eye contact, smile and be as alpha as I could, I wanted to keep my opener completely natural tonight!!

We moved around the club and didnt really open, I could feel the night going the same old way as before but tried to stay positive, we seemed to be having more fun this week anyway, poster boy was more talkative and we were laughing and joking.

I opened a 2 set in the smoking section, with something really basic and situational, got into convo for a bit but then the girls lost interest. Im not surprised really i didnt lead the convo anywhere and let my emotions get the better of me, at least I opened tho!!
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We then went inside for a bit and were just chilling by this pillar, again I saw this chick look at me and pull out her lip gloss, I thought to myself, IOI alert so I said to hear 'can i try some'!? instead of putting it on me she kissed me, straight up! wow, this direct shit really works!! :P

Poster boy couldnt belive it and nor could I!!!

From there things seemed to snowball! we had two girls on a hen start grinding us so we got chatting, purely natural on my part but I was building attraction from the off, started flirting with one girl who was giving me serious IOI's, she looked shy though!! We proceeded to meet the other 15 girls on the Hen and began to build up social proof, people were noticing us, even the other PUA's who were in there!

We spent lots of time with these chicks but I kept getting IOI's from everywhere, I wouldnt have noticed this had I been drunk, a group of spanish girls were all over me, like they were in love, couldnt understand what they were saying tho.

This reasonably hot brunette was like 'whats up' sexy boy and I forced it a bit from their. Overall I realised that once i'm in a set girls start noticing u more and i realised that I actually get quite a lot of interest on the outset so going direct is way forward.

I do need to be careful of the player trap though, I was accused of that last night and it could be a potential problem but all in all really satisfied with my performance.

I've learnt that opening is important but that im always likely to get a half decent response as girls generally find me attractive.

Poster Boy

Seemed to really develop confidence once we were in set and done very well in forcing interest, also generated IOI's from what he told me but its difficult for me to comment to much because I wasnt looking through his eyes.

I think his game was pretty tight, in terms of DHV'ing negging etc whereas I went for more a natural approach!

Very impressive performance from the lads though and defo onwards and upwards from here, I want to work on my conversation a bit more, although I generated attraction I was found wanting conversationally at times!!!

Til next week!! [/b]

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 Post subject: Field Test 5
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:53 pm 
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Okay so just to give my take on the events of last couple of weeks. As Hitch magnet said the week before last night was not the greatest of nights. From my POV he done well opened sets, got IOIs from girls he had not even opened yet and generally was a good night. For me, the previous week before was not bad at all so went out again with resonable spirits but as time went on in the club not approaching or opening i just started to freeze up and my mood just down spiralled. I was still getting a few IOI's from women in the club almost like an invatation to go and talk to them but didnt! still, I had no excuse other than a bad day at the office.

As for this week, same again went out feeling good, as i knew i was looking quite sharp and was staying positive hoping i can carry this good attitude on throughout the night. The night pretty much as what hitch describes above but will also give my take on what i saw. I also feel we seemed to be having a bit more fun as we were in good spirits dancing away and having a laugh not only as wings but as life long friends do. as hitch said he asked a very tidy women to try some of her lip gloss and got a nice pleasant suprise for doing so. Already being in quite a buzzing mood this made me chuckle and picked me up even more just seeing it and im sure it certainly did the same for hitch wink wink.

Shortly after we was making our way to another area and as hitch said we got mingling with a hen party which started with two lovely brunettes (one of was the hen) grinding and running their hands all over us. they told us to join the group, so we held back for a bit as we didint want to look needy then later on bumped into
them again as the antics continued. hitch was doing a good job with one of the brunettes and as mine was the hen i decided not to take it too seriously and just enjoy the moment, so was running some dhv and neg gambits on her inbetween her being all over me to put it bluntly. cut the rest of this story short we stuck with them for a while to try and social proof. I also managed to run some material on a blonde member of the party and ended up giving her my number as did hitch with the brunette he was with.

A good thing i will say about this set is they were a big group of high energy not bad looking women and there was a lot of men trying to get involved from the offset but each time they just blew them out and carried on enjoying mine and hitches company. from there as hitch said not too much really happened but by building this social proof we were definately gaining more attanetion from other women inside the club.

Overall a good night in terms of gaining some confidence and breaking some personal limtation beliefs. I think being in a better mood and mindset for the best part of the night definately gave me a better frame and more confidence possibly being the reason why we got opened by the hen girls and so many IOI's on the night from other women.

Personally I know i have potential to have a solid game in time but still really need to break through more and more barriers bit by bit. My body language was good in set and so was my dhv spikes and negs but just need to incorporate a bit more natural story telling and conversation into my sets? But hey last night was a small milestone, hopefully with many more to come!!

Im still a bit unsure about wether to open direct or indirect but i guess with practice and experimenting only time will tell. First and foremost the AA still has a firm grip on me and i know it will never go away but need to deal with it,open, and crack on with my game then hopefully open more doors. One thing i will say and i will end on this note, im sure hitch will agree is imagine how much better the night could of been with the success we already had, if I was to have approached and opened????

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