Ok so i sarged at the mall today with my wing and i opened this HB9 working at a clothes store with an opinion opener on guys in pink, we fluff-talked for a while about the topic (i couldnt manage to come up with a neg for her during this fluff-talk ) and i then went into the ESP no. routine starting with the 1-4 and then onto the 1-10 and i GUESSED BOTH RIGHT (which has never happened before today). she was sitting there looking pretty amazed and asked me how i did it and told me to guess something else about her (i couldnt think of anything witty at the time and i just made up some excuse about using her personality to determine the guesses - looking back i coulda said something like "dont be greedy now..").

my wing then suggested i guess her fave color and I ALSO GOT THAT RIGHT (it was yellow) and by that point she was really digging me giving me body-language IOIs and seemed REALLY interested. she asked me if i was a magician to which i responded with something lame.. AGAIN. but then i tried a simple magic trick with one of her rings which kinda back-fired and i recovered ok but then said something dumb - i told her my age (she seemed my age so it wasnt too bad but i still dont know why i said "geez.. i never said i could do magic - im only 16").

I then used a false time-constraint to exit appropriately as the convo was kinda dying (i said that me and my wing had to rejoin our group of friends) and also mentioned that i really enjoyed having this conversation with her and perhaps we could continue it sometime in the future. and then added "maybe i could guess some more numbers" with a smile but i dont think she got the hint and she responded with "yeh come visit me next time ur bumming here.."

Overall (discounting the routines), i think i was pretty AFC in terms of the things i said and also some of the things i did.. iv noticed that i lose ALL my wit and humour when im talking to a HB8+ (mainly because im so GODDAM NERVOUS inside).

So i was just wondering.. can anyone tell me how i shoulda closed her? i think i coulda at least #closed here judging by the way she responded to my routines and the IOIs she gave me.. any suggestions are welcome. my closing game needs some serious work.

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I would love to see some 16 year old kid pull a game on our girls in our frat party, it would be quite a sight.

1. You didnt fail. Youre 16 and you have the right attitude coz youre committed to learning.

2. You succeeded. Every time you try you learn you go to sleep that night with more experience.

Practise makes perfect dude...

No failure bro, I consider that a win. You made her comfortable enough that she invited you back to *hang* while she's at work. I often do the same thing with girls I find interesting instead of trying to number close them. I make it *convenient* to *bump* into each other again.

She thinks you're cool, but it won't go anywhere unless you are both working kino. Make that a priority next time you see her. If you gesture a lot with your hands when you talk (not too much, but naturally), it won't come off akward if you touch her arm very briefly when you are about to make a point or statement. Also, you can lean in and whisper her a secret, I lean in close enough that I'm touching her hair. This is phase 1 stuff that probably won't ruin your comfort level with her at her workplace.

thanx heaps guys..
yeh it was definitely a good experience to learn from. lol looking back on it theres so many things i shoulda done differently.
haha and yeh id love to sarge a college party but u dont really get those here in aus.
and ill definitely remember those kino tips for next time midas, cheers man.
hope to bump into her again soon and #close her (lol and btw i found out from a mutual friend shes actually like 19.. )

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When I was 16, I was tall and sometimes would get IOI from older girls. I wouldn't tell girls my age b/c it sometimes killed the convo/IOI. If they asked I'd say "guess, but you only get one try." They guess then I and say, "Hey that's a good guess, but wrong." but I still wouldn't say, adding a little bit of mystery.

Trying to show Higher Value when there is an age difference can be tricky, b/c you'll get put in a different frame in her mind. If you are too young, you are "just a little boy". If you are too old, then you are a dirty old man.

I did date some older women when I was 17,18,19 (and by older 2-3 years older). You have to establish yourself in their mind that you are someone they want to be with, they want to be part of your world. After they are in that frame it doesn't matter.

-Hyde