Hey guys,

So there was this really hot HB9 German who I met at a hotel yesterday, and we started walking on the streets together after some initial opening and hooking. We walked on the streets of NYC, for many hours, I completely gamed her and was getting massive IOIs from her. I kept qualifying her from my perspective, and she was responsive to them, constantly asking me if she was cool enough to hang out with me (I had told her earlier that she's only about 80% there )

Anyway, we finally sat down in a large open air area and I got to stroke her hair, play with her earrings and stroke her neck for about 10 minutes - and I went in for the kiss close but BAM! she turned her cheek. Went in again, and ... same response. I went a little cold then, turning away and changing body language - she tried to reinitiate conversation saying stuff like 'I think we have a connection', 'I like how you understand me' and so on. Overall, she had more of a 'good girl' vibe than a 'bad girl' vibe if you get what I mean.

Anyway, it didn't all end too badly - she wanted to meet me in her city (where I'm going next week) and made me promise to meet her. I just played it cool and said maybe fate will make it happen.

But, I was really really surprised to not get the k-close as EVERYTHING was working so well? Did I do something wrong to not get the kiss close, or is it just a German thing to wait before something happens? Am I missing something? Very perplexed :S

Much respect
L

Great game,except for the k-close attempt gone wrong.BTW,what the hell did you try kiss her with?Were you just going straight for the kiss without a pplayful routine,or were you all serious and heavy?

BTW,you would be an idiot if you met up with her or any girl in her city or another city.Way too many HB's out there to chase behind a girl in another city.That'd be weak,try-hard and waste of time.Just let this girl go.

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Thanks for the reply! Definitely was not a playful routine, but more direct. Seemed to work well earlier so just went with the flow.

I really liked this girl and would love to see her again, even if it is an AFC move. If I do end up meeting her, do I have to game her all over again to bring it up to the same level of rapport?

Much Respect
L

Ok,you'd love to see her again,but is it mutual?Does she desire to see you again?Seems to me that you might possibly be showing too much interest here just for a random chic who's probably forgotten about you already(or wondering why you're still calling when she's not even there in your city).

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Perhaps - but I had no intent of meeting her again, until she made me promise to meet her in her city, which I mentioned earlier on. She also made plans to hang out in certain restaurants and bars etc., so I think yes - her desire to meet up still exists.

Just in - totally weird thing just happened. Just bumped into her again in the hotel and just went 'hey', and she seemed totally distant and disconnected, but she was working with her colleagues. Not sure if that changes anything.

I'm beginning to think she's the type who'd take things slow, more than a failure on my part or a failure of a PUA routine.

Nah bro,she didn't mean it when she said about meeting up in her c.It was a form of testing.She was testing you to see how alpha you were,or will you jump through her hoops like a weak-beta male.You drastically failed her test by giving her the impression that you'd go out of your way to meet her.

The reason she's currently distant from you when you just ran into her at the otel is because you failed her test.She now has you in the "weak basket",where she puts every guy who shows willingness to pedestal her.You indirectly placed her on a pedestal by agreeing to meet up with her in her city.

If you want to reverse the damage that was done,suggest that she meet you in your city on your terms.

P.S.Never assume a woman is the "take-it slow" type.Approach the situationshough she's an ONS(one night stand).And you did try to move rapidly on her.For whatever reason,she recoiled from your K ose and you weren't able to lay her that time.

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That's an interesting perspective, mate. I have been through shit-tests in the past but this REALLY didn't seem like one LOL - she was genuine in her request and I'm usually good at picking these things up.

But thanks for the tip - yes, I'll have to alpha-her for a bit before the pickup resumes.

You should never react cold when a girl does this. She testes you to see if you have endurance like a true man. Be unaffected..even laugh about it. Say: "Haha what that wasn't smooth enough? And I though I was James Bond..." Do not worry..the actual fact that you went for the kiss the 2nd time after she rejected you showed to her that you're a man you did not mess up. It was a reaction that can also be based on her comfort level. But men with game know that you will not act as she just affected you by rejecting a kiss. That gives her all the power. Why would a man with options and who gets laid a lot be offended by a random chick rejecting his kiss?? You could've even went a 3rd-4th time for the kiss. Don't be afraid man..not so long ago it took me 6 or 7 attemps to get a kiss close from a girl! 6!!! I just didn't reacted because I KNEW she liked me..she was giving IOI's...I knew she was just messing with me or that she wanted to see if I was weak. So don't be afraid mate! Believe in your player instinct. If you think she woud've kissed you..than you're 90% right in most cases! Take care!

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Perfect advice! Never look uneffacted when a girl does something that most guys think it's "bad"

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I once tried to kiss close a girl for 8 hours....

We met near the opera in Odessa, Ukraine the entire day I was trying to kiss her, I bit her, I licked her.. she was struggling to let me go off her hahaha.. but it was funny, and since she did stay all that time with me I knew it was going to be a kiss at minimum. Finally around 2-3 in the night we were at a karaoke bar, I took her outside and we went to a dark place.. that is where we kisses. The next day I let her wash my clothes in my hotel room shower with a block of soap.

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