Very fast kiss close, first real dealing w/ AMOG experience



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:51 am 
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I am writing this post both to list what I learned as a newer PUA the other night, but also my thoughts and to ask for any advice for handling the situation differently, critiques on what I did well or didn't do well etc.

So, was getting funneled towards some girl in a crowded bar. She is probably about an 8. We got incredibly close and I almost kissed her right then without saying a word cuz our eyes were locked from about 15 feet away til we were 6 inches away. I smiled then slid past her. Of course, I looked where she was sitting though. I then came back opened the rest of the group and ignored her. Gave false time constraint so that I could sit down negged the target etc. The set consisted of 4 people, 3 girls and a guy. I had the guy loving me within 5 minutes and knew I was in. Then he made a devastating mistake...him and two other girls went to get drinks leaving me with the target. I took this time to go into attraction, played 5 questions etc. I could tell she was giving IOIs but at the same time was trying to act somewhat uninterested (did a bad job at this). I asked her do you like butterfly or eskimo kisses more? I love this question for multiple reasons. If they respond fast you just go ahead and give them whatever their answer was. This turns into a k close in an instant which it did for me last night. Try it. I don't think I read this idea anywhere but if I stole it from someone, sorry please give credit to that person where credit is due. If she seems uneasy I like to go with, c'mon haven't you been to second grade, people did it then all the time. It's only our noses/eyelashes touching. This usually gets them to give in.

Well, here comes the guy that "loved me". As he walks past and sees me clearly with the target he whispers in my ear, "been there done that, shes a tease don't waste your time". I said thanks for the advice and turned back to the target. Well at this point he starts getting defensive...makes fun of my clothes (it was an express shirt) to which i responded "wow you know your brand names" and patted him on the shoulder. Next he said what do you do again, I said "sanitation engineer" which made the target laugh. Then, said ha you're drinking budlight is that your first beer. I responded with "no, but I don't like drinking and driving (or drinking and gaming) and im impressed you can read!" Now he makes to awful mistakes, which I will go into but at this point I really was scared shitless when the girl next to him started saying be careful there are cops. Apparently this guy has AMOG problems! First mistake he made, he said to the target "go ahead, validate him!" and she goes, "this guy is amazing" and pulls me closer. At this point I felt safe again because now he knew doing anything to me would mean pushing her further away, making her mad at him, etc. Then he started qualifying himself to me...he goes, I have the car I want, the job I want, and the money. To this I said "apparently that doesnt matter" and kissed the target again. At this point the two other girls in the set made him go inside because the target was his ex! Anyways I surivived but couldnt f close, she wouldn't go back to my place cuz it was a half hour drive away. But, did get the number.

Anyways...Here is what I learned about AMOGs.

1.They will do everythign to bring you down, but when they can't they try to change the frame so they can reset. They will say something like "man I'm just messing with you, shake my hand/cheers me, etc." "We're cool right?" To this, do not give in. You are essentially supplicating. You don't need to shake anyones hand. Just stay cool calm and collected, reply with I appreciate the offer man. Keep your back to him, keep focus on the target.

After this they will take a break to regroup then come back at you. When they come back be prepared cuz it will be a stronger effort. Flurries of comments. This is where I said, "he's still going at it? how do you hang out with this guy". That throws him off, and he tries to reset again.

This is where i escalated the kino big time. If he is threatened by you being with the target, but sees she is very into you, he will realize anything he does towards you will push her away from him. Things should start to slow down here, he will feel defeated. If he tries to bring up your career or qualifying himself and how he is better than you, I realized you want to keep the kino up, but make sure everything you say makes it seem as if he has so much more than you but it doesn't matter. The attraction should be so high at this point that you won't lose her. For instance, I like to say, I'm a garbage man (sanitation engineer is more funny), so that's my vehicle. It could run your sweet car right off the road!

Some people may disagree with this angle, but I like it because it makes him feel as if everything he has means nothing, cuz the lowly garbage man is out gaming him. Major ego knock. He should be definitely done by now. This is the point where he went inside the bar in my situation (we were on the patio).

Side note, if you feel unsafe, it's probably not worth it. If he swings (this has never happened to me) but just leave.

Anyways, sorry for the ridiculously long post and sorry if lots of this is repeat info. I just like replaying my experiences so I can get advice. Comments are appreciated!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:22 pm 
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yer man, good info totally makes sense. what you could do aswell is figure out how to dismantle the situation like uve explained here and how to get them to become subtle and not become agressive. its good info though dude. keep it up.

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