below is a portion of email correspondence with Lorenzo321 regarding my past weekend. our recent email correspondence has been helpful in overcoming the k-close sticking point. just wanted to:

1) give props to some good advice that helped me
2) allow others to read the advice that will hopefully help them overcome this sticking point
3) get advice on how i could have handled certain situations that arose on friday and saturday night. particularly FRIDAY night with hb-bubbly and the natural.

below is the email:

Hey bro! hope ur weekend went well. i just wanted to give u a shout and say "thanks" for some advice u gave me in the email below. it really helped me get past my k-close sticking point. there are a few things that u mentioned that really clicked for me when i read it and i was able to internalize it successfully on the field this weekend.

"i just go for it" - this one seems obvious, but it just registered with me this time. i remembered this on friday, when a target (hb-bubbly) came out of the bathroom that i was waiting for at a house party on friday. she came out of the bathroom. i grabbed her, and just went for it. she turned her head at first. but i just said, "come here," moved her head back in and got my k-close. i proceeded to K her a few other times in the night. (i'll tell u more about this night later, because i want ur thoughts on something)

i think american girls kiss a loooot...lol - this really caught my attention upon first read. it was very enlightening to get this type of cultural perspective. it really helped me internalize the "just go for it" idea. it helped me realize, that there is a high chance i won't get rejected because women not only LIKE to be kissed, but american women happen to like it a looooooot!

If i get slapped in the face no worries, i'll email the story to u the day after so we can both laugh on that. no big deal - one of the best advice i've ever rec'd since studying the arts. it was a reminder that this is a GAME. and a "getting slapped story" is sure to be hilarious! we can only get better if we are willing to risk rejection. as style mentioned in the book, "in order to get the girl, u have to be willing to risk losing her."

back to friday night. although i got my k-close, i was a little upset with myself the next morning. as i would get my K's (some really good wet ones too!) with hb-bubbly, she kept mentioning how she "shouldn't be doing this." i finally asked her why. she mentioned something abt a guy that was there. he was a natural. it wasnt her bf, but i think she may have messed around with him before and she was obviously attracted to him. so i eventually backed off....and he ended up staying the night there. i didn't really think much of it until the next morning. and i thought to myself, "why did i stop??" even though she may have been attracted to him, she was obviously attracted to me enough to continue to let me repeatedly isolate her and K her. next time...i'll keep going. what are ur thoughts on this?

saturday night, was a imprtant to me. i wanted to practice my k-close, to make sure friday night wasn't a fluke. went to a music festival, bounced 3 girls back to my house and had some of my friends over. k-closed 2 girls. one of the girls was my main target. she spent the night, and gave me free access to her top, but gave me LMR on access inside the panties. and it was so late and we were so drunk and tired that i let her go to sleep. a freeze-out wasn't possible in this situation. hopefully i can pull her in for a day 2, and get an f-close. anyways, just wanted to keep in touch and say thank u again for ur advice. it really helped me get past a MAJOR sticking point. hope to hear from u soon!

PS: i emailed u the ring routine and the Cold Readlines. did u get to use them this weekend?

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have u ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?

thanks man there are some very good advices in this email.
my favorite k close technique is the mystery's first kiss gambit:

you ask the girl: "would you like to kiss me?"
if she sais yes - kiss her.
if she sais mabe, say "lets find out" and kiss her.
if she sais no, say "i didnt said you could. it just looked like you had smoething on your mind..".

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Veni, vidi, vici

u know, i've tried this only once. didn't get the k-close. and the contingency "something on ur mind" line got me out of a potentially awkward situsation. but i just don't know that i prefer this style. it can come off as needy if calibrated wrong or delivered weakly.

also, to run this routine and get the K, ull need to raise value up to a certain point anyway. which once u get her buying temp up to that point, asking her if she would like to kiss u just seems like an obstacle or an extra step before going in for the k-close. assuming u are getting proficient at calibrating for the K-close, this gambit kinda seems unecessary, or even potentially detrimental compared to going caveman and taking a kiss.

i am sure i'll try it again at some point, but i'm not sure if i would rely on it as a universal k-close technique. i do see it as a good way to practice calibration. but i'm curious do u (or anybody else out there) use this for a majority of their K-closes? Thanks!

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have u ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?

i do. and it usually work. another thing, when the girl sais no and you say "i didnt said you could. it just looked like you had smoething on your mind..", the girl will start thinking. believe me when i say, you will be in a better position if you try the gambit and she sais no then before. its kinda like a tease.

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Veni, vidi, vici