Before my History class, I have a half-hour break to just chill in the hall and watch life go by (community college). I'm curious as to what each reaction to eye contact means... I will be sitting there, looking at people go by, and mainly just eyeing the girls. Some of them keep contact for a bit, then fade away and look at something else. Some make quick contact, and then stare at something like the wall or floor as they walk by. Some don't even look at me, even though I know they know I'm looking at them, and stare ahead until they pass me. I will get the occasional look back, mostly when the girls are with other girls. So are these just random reactions, or do they mean more?

I saw these 2 girls who talked to me for a bit at work (A&F, had a question about sizes), one who I met once over the summer at the beach with some friends. The halls were busy, but I spotted the one who didn't know me looking at me. As soon as we locked eyes, she looked straight down and continued walking with the friend that i had met. I'm torn between this being a good sign or a bad sign. I want to think it is a good sign, and just means she is shy or something. But I tend to think girls see me as unapproachable, which is even more confusing. Is there such thing as showing too high value? I usually try to dress nice whereever I go, whether it be a T-shirt or a dress shirt. I try to pick good style (Armani, A&F, Banana Republic, a little Hollister), and always walk through the halls with my head up and looking like a have a purpose. Is there something I should do differently?

This post might not make much sense, I'm mad tired from school and work and cleaning some of my apartment. Messy roommates suck, but he is rich so we got some nice stuff .

Her looking down is a sign of self-conciousness or lower value.

As per your question "Can you have to high a value?" No.

And as a point so that you realize what is going on... women are just as freaked out about approaching as men. Oh and it is OUR job to approach. Their job to suck dick... our job to approach. Remember that. So when a woman looks down you can easily approach her. If she looks up... harder. Left or right... thats okay but not an IoI or anything.

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LOL.

I sometimes get into interesting eye contact moments with girls. Although I have a hard time approaching chicks, it's probably clear to women I'm checking them out. I remember once not long ago I was walking down the street and I was passing this chick. Whilist I was doing so I was deliberately looking at her face and I think she was smiling at me because of it. After we passed each other I went to cross the road, but while waiting for the traffic to clear up, I looked to the left to catch a glimpse of the chick I just passed to find that she had turned around to look at me! I didn't smile or go approach however as I used the fact I didn't want to be late for the appointment I was going to as an excuse.

as far as being unapproachable what you need to remember is why we are exchanging openers, routines, escalation, etc. talking to random strangers is hard weither it is you approaching chix or them approaching you. there are several ways to make yourself more approachable. first over the top peacocking, if a chick wants to talk to you, you have made it easy for them. the item/items are conversation topics. chix like us, before learning how to approach, don't want to feel/look like assholes and say something stupid. you wear something that they feel they can come up w/ an on the spot opener. im not a huge peacocker, i have to maintain a professional appearance.

my suggestion that i use at work, smile more constantly make it bigger when a chick sees you, then say hi to everyone. it will make you much more approachable just by creating a friendly vibe around you.

That last post seemed on the money as a good vibe is worth a thousand bucks.
I was trying a new eye contact theory on the weekend to get used to the looks. What always gets me with eye contact is a feeling of being put on the spot. It's twice as bad if its a pretty girl. What I started trying was practicing the initial eye contact , smile and a gentle fading gaze on people who weren't looking at me. That way there is no pressure!

I found that gave the best feel for it as you don't have to imaginarily justify why you're looking at someone. For me now when I get eye contact I can smile and hold it, especially on girls. Big improvement. Also my face, neck and vocal chords respond too... lol

So yeah, try practicing on someone who isn't looking at you o get comfortable. As for too high of value? That just means you need to sarge hotter chicks!

Here's a good eye contact link, http://www.esquire.com/features/ESQ0806INFLUENCE_81

I was out to lunch yesterday with a girl I know (just a 3 to be honest), and as we walk up to our table a seriously HB9+ looks up from the next door table and smiles at me.

Everyone smiles at everyone they see, so I just smiled back and started chatting to my friend. Around 10 mins into our meal, I catch her looking at me again out of the corner of my eye, so I glance at her and give her a friendly wink and a smile. (Not a cheesy wink. Look in the mirror and wink at yourself while you shoot your reflection with a double barreled hand pistol. That's a cheesy wink. A friendly wink is more of an affectionate blink. You keep your eye shut a few milliseconds longer. You know what I mean.)

For the rest of the meal, her eyes were burning a hole in my forehead. I could feel her looking at me, and every time I looked back she would blush, smile and look away, then back at me.

Now either I had something disgusting dangling off the end of my nose, or we had something going there. I don't mean to hijack this thread with a FR of my own, but I was making the point that you can do a hell of a lot before you even open your mouth.

Who knows, I might have picked her up if she hadn't been sitting there with most of her extended family.