Rewriting this lame field report since I wrote it early a.m. and I haven't really put things in context to make it useful. I actually came out with some interesting lines that some might find useful.

It was a bar pickup, mixed group of six or seven knowns and unknowns. A couple of good EC from this one girl who wasn't really involving herself in the conversation. She does some hair flicking and I said something like

"wow you must be so bored. killing time practising your Vidal Sassoon poses?"

tbh the wording wasn't as clear as this but that's probably how it should have come out, but who cares she laughed anyway. some laughing and then I said something like "so show me what you've got". Then whilst she reciprocated with some exaggerated hair flicking I reposition myself so we can break off from the group a little. I followed it with some stuff about her hair,

"do you ever wear it in X style? . I think it would look good like that".

The conversation got a little hazy but I think I laid down a bunch of negs, some stuff about "you would look better if you did x, or wore X " (C&F) possibly didn't get the delivery quite right she started looking a bit pissed off, she started busting on me back, picking on my clothes etc. That made it a little more playful, I basically showed I didn't really care and wasn't taking it personally, just laughed it off.

Then that died down. Some other stuff in the group started taking the attention for a bit. I wish I had a bit more detail on this part of the interaction but it was something to do with her doing or saying something which I approved of, and expressed in some way that I thought it was cool. Approval? (I'm sure there a better term for this action) And then this was interesting, she said something like "I see, so suddenly I'm alright now" obviously referring to all the negs I had said previously. So then I riffed an interesting reply on the spot

"Oh come on, you didn't take that personally? I guess you're not getting it. You see there is what people SAY, and then there's what they're THINKING",

and then as I say that sentence I start doing some gambler stealth seduction stuff, hand stroked down her back, and as I'm doing this I carry on talking "because you see language is an interesting thing..." - shit, I can't remember exactly what I said but I'm pretty sure it was some stuff I'd subconsciously learned on NLP that was coming out. Stuff about language, emotions, sub communication, usual emphasis on words like FEELINGS. Anyway all of this made a nice transition into making it a clear seduction scenario. It was obvious now what I was after so I started going to do more comfort orientated conversation, asking questions about herself, continuing the stealth seduction kino. She was hooked.

So I maintained conversation, there were some reshuffling of people's positions but I made sure that we were moving into our own space, keeping eye contact (short deep stares and breaking off every few seconds), keeping the conversation going. Our faces start getting close as we're talking and, more thanks to Gambler stealth seduction, I decided to get real close as I just carried on talking. Moving my body into hers from the side, arm round her waist. Moving my face closer to hers. Lips were literally maybe an inch away from each other, and I swear you can just literally feel that sexual tension building like a god damn volcano ready to erupt. We were talking about such boring stuff, but because our bodies were so close she was just CRAVING for me to make that last inch. I've only recently started incorporating this into my game and I got to say it's absolutely amazing stuff. I never realised how close you can get a girl, and how much you can kino them and them not care or even realise.

So then I improvise something else a little interesting, I kind of break off a little, look back to the rest of the group as if I'm overhearing something more interesting that is grabbing my attention. I look back to her with a kind of playful disappointed look

D: You see now it's all going wrong. There was a moment there but I think you missed it".
(She's all confused wondering what I'm on about, I guess subconsciously she knows what I'm talking about but she doesn't want to admit it)
HB: "what do you mean?"
D: "you see there was a moment just there ..."
(I start moving a little closer again)
D: "... when our faces were getting closer like this ..."
(I start getting real close again just like we were before)
D: "... and you know if we'd just gotten a little bit closer..."

BAM. Make out.

Now ordinarily I'd like to use this again since it works fine for the kiss close, but in this particular situation she was a little nervous about kissing me in front of her friends. Reasons for which I realised later on due to various connections with the other people there that I won't go into (you know, friends of ex-boyfriend etc). But I showed her that because I get it I knew there was SOME reason for it so I reassure her by just saying "oh i see, kind of awkward in front of your friends huh?". So I carry on with the kino, and say stuff like " you know nobody is really paying attention, honestly". I turn around and blatantly some people are paying attention haha

So after a little standing there keeping up the kino, hair stroking but no conversation, I go for something that I've used only three times (but that's in about the last month) but has worked every time in getting you to someone's place. Incorporating the APOCALYPSE OPENER. Oh yeah, that's right. If anyone doesn't know the opener goes like this

You: hey hows it going?
her: (who cares)
you: what are you doing later?
Her: umm, I don't know (maybe a specific reply but doesn't matter)
you: do you want to come home with me?
her: (shocked as fuck)
you: (just stand, confident, smiling, unfazed)

Now I'll say what it said on the original post. This is some dangerous shit and really needs the right situation. But what I've been doing with this is actually just putting it into the end of my game as part of like a conclusion to all the hard work you've been putting in. You basically established rapport, you've kino escalated, you've made out. Fuck it, what else is there to do? I just find it a nice direct way to introduce the idea of going back to someone's place, but the wording is just soft enough so you're not saying "i want to fuck you", or sounding like the ridiculously cliched "do you want to come back to my place?". I know in other situations like a day 2, plausible deniability is the way to go, but I find for bar pickups leading to a fuck close this works fine. I would say though that you have to be pretty sure that she really digs you and you spent time building comfort.

Something I found both with the other two times and this time, it's not like you leave straight away. You just put it out there, however she replies it doesn't matter. The point is that you've put that idea into her head and shown her that you're not afraid of that situation. You're sexually confident and now she knows it. With the previous time I did this, she didn't even reply. Just looked shocked. It was like another half an hour until the bar closed and when it came to leave there was just no question about it. Hell, I think she was even the one that hailed a cab for us.

Anyway, this was where I was thrown off a bit. After basking in a satisfactory shocked initial response (I just love it), she actually counter offered with going to her place. So like I said above, we stayed in the bar a little longer then it was just a natural move into a cab together to go to hers.

And that is where I screwed up a little. Firstly when we got back to hers I didn't re-establish seduction quick enough and this gave her a chance to bring up the whole weed thing. And that just fucked up everything lol. If asked to think about it on a higher level I would say I wasn't leading strong enough and maintaining my frame. The frame should have been we were there to have sex. Not blaze up some damn skunk when I think about it I need to apply this as a rule. If possible it should actually start as you approach your/her house perhaps. I think something needs to be said that establishes that there is one thing that is going to happen when you get in, and that's sex. It's a difficult call - on the one side I feel like you should be open to other activities once you arrive at someone's house since it can be useful for comfort building, but on the other side I feel like it just gives the girl a chance to distract from the reason you're there. Not sure what comments people might have on this, would be interested to know.